Friend who is not a software person sent me this tweet, which amused me as it did them. They asked if “runk” was real, which I assume not.

But what are some good examples of real ones like this? xz became famous for the hack of course, so i then read a bit about how important this compression algorithm is/was.

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    Imagemagick.

    Every website that supports avatar images and has multiple sizes of the avatars uses imagemagick.

    Another one is OpenSSL.

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        Perhaps we’ll move to UTC+10¼, and then move forward 45 minutes in the summer.

        If the day number is a prime, then we’ll go back π hours.

        Hope that will help!

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      It’s also worth pointing out that this was sued in a copyright lawsuit some time ago. The wikipedia article mentions it, but here’s the slashdot discussion if you want to feel like stepping into a time machine: https://m.slashdot.org/story/158778

      It caused a momentary panic when everyone realized that this thing runs the system clocks for everything everywhere, and if it got taken down by a copyright suit it would be disastrous for, well, everybody.

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        It would make sooo much more sense for the ISO to set something up, and make governments each responsible for keeping it updated, since they’re the ones doing the changing.

        Require all participants to amend their law/regulations, so there’s a note to prompt whoever is in power and changes it next.

        I’m sure some places would still neglect to do it… Haha

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      Wasn’t there also very recently a whole thing about the single guy who maintains the NTP spec threatened to retire so he could get a “real” job, which caused a gigantic internet-wide panic as pretty much everything we do relies on computer’s clocks being perfectly synced?

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    Furthermore, “RUNK” was originally made in the 1980s to take over from a program written on punch cards in the 1960s. Finally, it’s missing some important functions that the original 60s program had because "RUNK"s developer doesn’t see the purpose of those functions and refuses to add them; and no one has publically released a fork of “RUNK” that adds those functions back in, so you have to do it yourself. Thank God it’s open source.

    Edit: oh yeah, and back in 2005 there was an effort to make a GUI for it, but “RUNK’s” sole developer got mad because “back in the 80s we didn’t need GUIs; command line is infinitely faster” and kept intentionally breaking support for the GUI with each bug fix, leading to the project eventually being abandoned.

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      that really sounds like a case where someone ultimately says “fuck you, runk’s developer”. why didn’t that happen?

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        Because frankly, Ronald (the current maintainer, not the original author) is very competent. I say this as somebody who has personally been yelled at by Ronald at a kernel summit; I didn’t deserve it, but none of his technical points were wrong. I like to think of myself as the kind of person that, given enough time and documentation, can maintain anything; I think it’d still take three of me to do Ronald’s job. (Well, “job.” I think he technically works for Red Hat or something?) Not to excuse his conduct, just to explain why he’s not been replaced yet.

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          Wait if it stands for Ronald’s Universal Number Kounter, does that mean both the creator and current maintainer are named Ronald? Is it a dread pirate kinda deal where whoever holds the hat takes the name?

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            I’d love to link you to their Wikipedia pages, but both of them are redlinked. As far as I can tell, Dr. V. Ronald was an educator who moved from Canada to the USA as part of the whole Xerox PARC thing and probably was valued for mainframe experience; does anybody have a full bio? The current maintainer is Ron Sunk, who did a full run at MIT up through postdoc before going to Red Hat. The names are a coincidence; runk implements what we now call Sunk summation, after Sunk’s thesis. (As you might guess, that’s an instance of Stigler’s law, since clearly Dr. Ronald discovered Sunk summation first!)

            Also, as long as we’re here, I want to empathize a little with Sunk. The GUIs that folks have placed on runk, like GNOME’s Gunk or Enlightenment’s enk, look very cool, and there’s rumors of an upcoming unified number-counting protocol that will put them all on equal ground. But @[email protected] wasn’t joking; Dr. Arnold’s code literally only reads punch cards, and there’s a façade to make it work on modern Linux and BSD transparently. It predates X11, if that’s any help. The tech debt is real.

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            it’s a case where he knows a guy just like Ronald but he’s not naming him, so he’s just talking about “Ronald”

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    Oh and then you get all the projects with recursive acronyms, like WINE Is Not Emulation, MAME Ain’t (an) Mp3 Encoder, and of course GNU’s Not Unix.

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    Paul Eggart is the primary maintainer for tzdb, and has been for the past 20 years.
    Tzdb is the database that maintains all of the information about timezones, timezone changes, leap whatever’s and everything else. It’s present on just about every computer on the planet and plays an important role in making sure all of the things do time correctly.

    If he gets hit by a bus, ICANN is responsible for finding someone else to maintain the list.

    Sqlite is the most widely used database engine, and is primarily developed by a small handful of people.

    ImageMagick is probably the most iconic example. Primarily developed by John Cristy since 1987, it’s used in a hilarious number of places for basic image operations. When a security bug was found in it a bit ago, basically every server needed to be patched because they all do something with images.

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      sure? i tried 8bit transparent grayscale png generation and it turns out imagemagick produces images the kindle can display and ffmpeg fucks them up majorly and they wont show on kindle. ffmpeg is nice though.

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        FFmpeg is basically the only piece of audio/video conversion software in widespread use. Everything uses it under the hood. Microsoft Teams used it to stream your webcam. VLC uses it to play video. If you’ve ever uploaded your video to an online service to convert it to a different file format or codec, chances are the server that processed it did so using FFmpeg.

        I have also noticed that FFmpeg kind of sucks at generating stills for reasons I’m not sure about though.

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    I remember reading a story here not too long ago about a guy who broke the internet by taking his code away because some big company forced to have his package’s name or something along those lines

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    I saw a post earlier about Empress returning to game cracking. For modern video games that use Denuvo DRM, she’s the only person who can really crack it, as far as I know. Singlehandedly holding up the AAA game piracy scene.

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      It was somewhat weird waiting for the HP release on her TG channel.

      Like I’ve seen my fair share of terf transphobes, but she’s honestly best described as a hater.

      There were so many rants.

      But like with Harry Potter, I like to separate the artist from the art.

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      She is kind of a shithead tbf and fwiw it’s more like she’s the only person who is willing to do it. granted cracking denuvo is something that is extremely difficult and only a small subset of people can do but it’s not like she’s literally the only person on the planet who can. There was that guy who would just release the yearly update of football manager, for one.

      It’s far more likely the people who have that skill set just don’t really want to bother with cracking videogames and the potential legal issues that come with distributing them online.

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        True, but being the only person willing to do something is kind of laudable in it’s own right. Like all of the open source projects relied upon by millions that are sometimes developed primarily by one person in their free time.

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          but my (not really my) conspiracy theory for this is the opposite of open source: when someone is good at cracking games companies like denuvo track them down and offer them jobs to harden their product and take another cracker out of the scene. like I bet denuvo is just filled with nerds that spent their teenage years in sketchy irc rooms with handles like -DooMSlAyEr- and used to actually be members of razor1911 before they realized they could get game companies to pay them 200k a year

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            It’s not a conspiracy theory. It’s exactly what Malus did and why it’s harder to root iPhones nowadays (but the EU is seeing to that by forcing them to start opening up their walled garden).

            Can’t remember where I read it, but I think it’s the dude who started AsahiLinux that shared part of his story in the scene. And a few dudes were tracked down and had the choice between a lawsuit and employment. Makes the decision pretty easy.

            Doesn’t help that they did their thing on Github and other public platforms instead of I2P or something.

            Anti Commercial-AI license

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      I can’t help but laugh at how batshit crazy she is. Didn’t she write a rap at some point??

      I’ll never not be convinced that she’s on a fair amount of meth and/or crack.

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    I nominate Paul Eggert, and Arthur Olson before him, for the tz database, which we all depend upon whenever the time at which something happens (or did happen or will happen) matters.

    Edit: Tom Scott touches on the subject here.

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    Although it’s now a larger organization, Redis was started and maintained by some guy that just wanted to make his website faster. It’s very widely deployed.

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        Yup… IIRC they basically started a company with a similar name when they didn’t really have any association with the project then slowly consumed it.

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    Mark Russanovich was just some guy who had trouble fixing Windows computers so he wrote systernals from scratch including widely used psexec and other required tools if you are forced to be a windows admin. He has since grown up into a very hansom who runs Azure which sucks.