If they don’t have oat milk, what should’ve they said?
Did they mention that milk comes from cows and not oats?
You can milk anything with nipples.
(Delete) I was beaten to it.
I have nipples Greg, can you milk me?
Yes, it’s a whole thing. I have many videos related to that, let me show you.
“I Have Nipples Greg, Could You Milk Me?”
“I will if you let me”
-The director’s cut.
I have nipples, Greg. Could you milk me?
You can indeed create milk without requiring a cow.
True enough. But not from an oat.
Also from oat.
juice from oat. milk from titties.
So if we would create milk in a lab, which is chemically identical to e.g. cow’s milk, but without any udder secretion involved, that wouldn’t be milk?
What is milk if not just fatty water with a couple of nutrients?
Our concept of “milk” goes beyond mere mammary gland secretes.
So if we would create milk in a lab, which is chemically identical to e.g. cow’s milk,
That’s just it. You can’t.
I can’t no. But other people can.
We can already create meat in a lab. Milk is coming as well.
See for example: https://www.forbes.com/sites/daphneewingchow/2025/02/24/first-lab-grown-whole-cows-milk-to-debut-in-the-us/
The waiter probably was conveying it’s not on the menu or is out of stock. No big deal…
I am not a vegan but oat milk lattes are the best lattes. They are creamy, rich with flavor that’s perfectly aligned w the coffee, lower in calories & more sustainable than classic dairy.
Everyone should try them once at least.
Barista style oat milk is fantastic, froths so nicely.
I just bought one last week. Works well. Enjoyable but clearly different than whole milk.
Sticking to it for health.
Yes! The moment I tried oatmilk I realized the nuttiness of the oat compliments the coffee bean aromas making it the superior milk for espresso drinks
Have you looked at the ingredients of oat milk?
It’s water with vegetable oil and just enough oats for the taste.
Have you seen what they feed cows? Think I’ll stick with the oats and vegetable oil 😉
You mean grass?
You keep that ignorance as long as you can bud.
One of us sure is ignorant.
We don’t have feedlot dairy’s here.
You can literally go for a drive and watch dairy cows eat green grass.
They wrap hay bales in this plastic stuff that makes the hay start to ferment which apparently the cows fucking love to eat.
I’m lactose intolerant. What’s your point?
My point is, that oat milk lattes are not the “best” lattes, they’re oily not creamy, and that the flavor of oats does not align with coffee.
I’m diabetic and have to avoid lactose too, amongst many other things.
Oat milk might be a fine beverage, if you’re into oily watery horse food, but a substitute for proper milk it is not.
Milk is just watery fatty cow food with some extra steps involved.
Not really. It’s a mammalian excretion that has literally been refined over millions of years to deliver an infants nutritional requirements.
I drink milk, but milk isn’t superior to oat milk.
mammal milk has specific ingredients that are meant to specifically feed infants of that animal. So its often high in fat and has specific things that are meant to be digested by that animal. Breast milk from a human has special ingredients that help digest the high lactose content and those ingredients are not in other milks.
Now Oats have been designed over years to be digested by humans and other animals. They propagate by being consumed and then travel to other areas post consumption. The nutrition in oats and other vegetables is mostly there specifically to drive animals like us to eat them so that we propagate them.
Of course proper milk is superior to oat milk.
If you were stuck on a desert island and could have an infinite supply of either it would be an absurdity to choose the oat milk over cows milk.
It’s true that cows milk is intended for calves and it’s probably not advisable for an adult human to consume exclusively cows milk, but it’s an absurdity to claim that cows milk is less nutritionally valuable than oat milk.
Oats have been domesticated by humans over a few short millennia because of their ease of cultivation and longevity in storage. Lets not conflate convenience with nutritional quality. Besides which oat milk doesn’t contain much in the way of oats anyway.
As long as that infant happens to be a cow
You’re trying really hard to be objectively correct about this silliness. No wonder there’s a stigma about coffee snobs.
I’m not trying to be objectively correct at all.
It’s just really easy to make fun of people who drink poncy “milk” because everyone secretly wants it to be some magical elixir delicately squeezed from the nipples of plump little oats tended by fat little bumble bees in Tasmania.
I’m not trying to be objectively correct at all.
Literally you: “Of course proper milk is superior to oat milk.”
That’s very obviously a subjective statement.
The one I drink has 11%, which seems plenty. At some point it’d become thin porridge, and I don’t want to drink that.
I agree. My preference goes oat then whole. I like the nuttiness that the oat milk adds. Local café was doing a monthly special, and they’re the best in the county so I tried it. It became my regular order.
“I am not a vegan but”
HAHAAH, INSERT FUNNY THEY TELL YOU JOKE!!1!
I just made a smoothie with a frozen berry blend I got from Costco. Yep, I used oatmilk
I don’t think this story/tweet is real. Or maybe just the misunderstanding that the restaurant didn’t have oat milk on hand.
Totally agreed that oat milk superior flavor for many different applications. Milk from a tiyty just ain’t it for smoothies and stuff. I don’t make any smoothies with animal milk.
lower in calories
not everyone wants that.
The barista stuff isn’t that much lower in calories than dairy milk. The rest is true though: delicious, sustainable, microfoam-able.
Lowering the calories makes room to compensate with bacon grease.
Yeah but that makes my coffee taste funny.
The quality of oatmilk varies wildly based on the brand. I’m not a fan of Kirkland or Oatly but Califia and Silk are delicious.
Jesus. Oatly is by far the best. By far. Especially the barista style.
I also like it but it didn’t feel any healthier than regular milk, I don’t have the macros in mind anymore but I think half full milk was better when I did look it up a while ago.
This is the real answer. The french aren’t the pretentious ones in this story, they’re the plebs who don’t know any better haha
(All in good fun)
No, they just have way better milk than us
I like oatmilk in general. Oatmilkshakes are also awesome and oatmilk is way better in cereal
Too many people tried soy milk or almond milk and it has unfortunately turned them away from dairy alternatives. Oatmilk leagues above all the rest.
I also didn’t like soy milk at first now I have it with cereal almost daily, so I guess it’s also getting used to the flavour.
Definitely. Though I do quite like chocolate almond milk! I find almond milk tk be a tolerable alternative some of the times but ugh soymilk
Soy milk slays on protein though. If that’s important to you.
Oat milk things out frozen drinks but I agree it’s delicious all the same.
I must keeping getting crap oatmilk. I always feel like it’s watery, and I shake it before pouring.
I also drink whole milk, and think anything under 2% might as well be water. Unless it’s a chocolate milk full of thickeners instead of just milk and chocolate.
I also get plain, because I don’t want added sugar.
Suggestions?
You have to go for the stuff with added fat - barista style - to get anything approaching decent.
Mighty is the best brand I’ve tried by a margin, they do a barista one but for an all round milk replacement the whole m.lk is great. They use a blend of oat and pea though I think
Just use whole milk.
I do.
But I have vegan and lactose intolerant family and friends. So I try to keep shelf stable options on hand for when they visit.
After they leave, I use what’s left so it’s not wasted, and would prefer an option that I like too.
Makes sense.
Maybe try cachew milk? It’s pretty tasty.
A lot of brands make extra creamy versions that work better in coffee imo. Some sell a barista version which is also extra creamy and designed to steam well for lattes. Theyre more calorie dense though, so you kinda lose one of the main benefits. My favorite milk for lattes is ultra-filtered whole milk.
Forager Project has a nice oatmilk. I like it better than Oatly.
Oaty brand oat milk.
They have some kind of special ingredient that keeps everything properly emulsified.
Warning it’s not cheap. I maybe buy a carton a week.
Oatly barista in the grey cartons is hands down the best IMO after trying loads of other brands. I get it at publix in the US or Tesco in the UK
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I was backpacking Europe. I had just left Amsterdam and gotten to Berlin. I ordered a Heineken on impulse and the bartender looked appalled and said no.
I think this is why I’m hesitant to travel there, i can’t handle snobs.
It’s hard to describe but it’s not snobbery. The French are just themselves and I honestly love them for it. I’d heartily recommend a visit.
I was there one time for work and decided I’d have a steak. Well I know they cook steak rarer than elsewhere so hoping for medium I ordered well done.
Terrible mistake. I got what was basically a lump of raw meat that should have had “get fucked” stamped on it and I felt like I brought it on myself.
The Fr*nch hate Parisians too.
They aren’t real snobs because they don’t look down on you, it is in most cases not about you personally. They just think their culture is superior which sounds very arrogant but below that is just plain old narcasism. Also historically they’re are from ‘the cultured part of europe’ and had to deal with the basic lowlife from England (have you eaten their food?), the Dutch (have you seen their clothes?) and the Germans (have you seen what their homes). It’s like how the Romans looked at the Germanic tribes they just like superficial stuff like pretty food on pretty tables wearing pretty dresses. There are plenty of places people will treat you much worse and above all this is just a stereotype which is true on the one hand but there are a lot of different people living in France just like in any other country. Also they have crêpes.
Sure they don’t look down on you, they just think they are superior…
Get the fuck outa here
Ah crêpes, the cheap version of Blinis. /j
That’s probably the most polite barista in Paris. I’d have expected a tirade, complete with arm waving and rude gestures.
Guillotine!
They also seem to operate under the misunderstanding that the French can make coffee. Here in Italy we know that to be false.
Half the French I know have a Bialetti stove top coffee machine. Sure, the french typically buy ground beans and they tend to prefer a dark roast. But they still use Italian technology.
To be fair, most of the dishes people like from France are imported by some king or another. Traditional French food kinda sucks, unless you really like stew.
Pwffft Italy know about coffee?
Signed, A Brazilian
You certainly make a lot of the coffee but all the technology for brewing it comes from Italy. Anyway, there is lots of credit to spread around. It’s just that the French don’t get any of it.
Signed, Not an Italian
That’s true, and you should know I do coffee drip. So I’m not into that tech, which means I’m doubling down
Honestly not trolling today
Right? This could have been an open declaration of war. Dude should have known better.
as they should. i dont like american culture, where some people seem to think it is ok to take an item of the menu and alter pretty much everything about it.
btw: if you want to be treated like a king in france… look up history
Making adjustments to dishes for the customers the restaurant serves is not unique to american culture.
Furthermore I find it important to enable this. For example due to health reasons as in lactose intolerance, which is common in humans as about two thirds of humanity is lactose intolerant.
exactly because of allergies it is important to stick to the menu. if someone has a real allergy, not ‘i fart a little more’, they know exactly what they can and cannot eat. so they will order what they know is safe and the restaurant knows how to prepare the stuff on the menu.
i dont know how bad you can mess someone up with lactose, but milk has a large possibility of cross contamination. i know you can kill someone with celiac disease from just a little cross contamination. so lets just not risk it.
I mean if it’s for a meal I get you but being mad about different type of milk for coffee is crazy
Do they even have it in the shop? Should a cafetier store every type of plant base milk in their pantry just in case someone ask for an off-menu variation? It is not either the job of the waiter to run at the shop to find oat milk.
in case someone ask for an off-menu variation?
Stuff like a plant-based alternative shouldn’t even be “off-menu”. The problem already starts here.
Coffee is plant-based. It is not that weird that a plant-based version of the un-veganised version of a plant-based beveurage is off-menu.
It’s a real “I like pancakes” moment here.
No one said the waiter should run to the store. But making a reasonable request for a reasonable ingredient for a coffee is… reasonable.
No one is sending the waiter anywhere.
That’s reasonable according to your standard. That’s not reasonable in most café in France. You don’t need to know that but you’re suppose to understand what’s not reasonable to expect from not seeing it in the menu.
If I can get oat milk in my coffee in fucking eastern Europe I’d think expecting it in France isn’t too crazy.
But then of course French people gotta fail the “Get out of own anus challenge about anything food related” on the beginner level.
You could get free-lactode milk and probably some plant-based milk in some place but no. Oat milk is not a staple in café in France.
Acrshuely the onlie acceptablé additcion to café in le fhronce is uhhh the chef de cuisines coque
I was on vacation in Flavigny, an incredibly beautiful small village wanted green beans without the butter, asked to simply use olive oil. The waiter was completely unsympathetic, simply asked me “why!?”. It took me a minute to convince him and I think I has to pay extra. :)
Why would you eat beans without butter? Are you barbarian?
i like plain unseasoned green beans, fight me
Straight out of the pot, right! 🙌
I don’t think in barbarian, no. But butter is scary!
WTF is this lunacy? I guess you are a barbarian!
I assure you I am not
Honestly, there is a bit of a pride fight in France between the butter cuisines at the North of the Loire river and the olive cuisines at the South of the Loire. So it might not be that much against the idea of make the dish vegan.
Still that useless, stupid pride. I cook burgeondy dishes with olive oil whenever I feel like it and it is still very good. Not quite the same taste but delicious nevertheless.
That’s interesting information, thanks!
Your welcome (^_^)
Have you had a chance to try one of their anices?Yeah, they’re great. I love Burgundy.
But it’s a long trip from western Germany, that’s why I don’t go as often as I’d like to.
il veut qu’on fasse de l’agriculture, c’est ridicule
I love France and all, but let’s not pretend they have good coffee culture. What passes for cappuccino there… The horrors I’ve seen.
It’s crazy, food is top notch, or what you pay for it, but coffee is always the french 3/4. So not very good.
To be fair, they invented it and the Italians refined the espresso in 1961 so.
Part of why it’s relatively bad is because they still make it the same way as they did back then
Sure, but the “third wave” coffee is even worse IMO.
Is that foamy lattes w syrup?
Nah, the “hipster espresso” I’d call it. Usually tastes sour, "but that’s normal, not everyone can appreciate all the ‘flavours’ "
Ah, I am guilty of liking that. But I do think it is a very different taste than regular dark roasted chocolaty coffee and they should suprise you with a funky light-roasted one as their standard bean. Those are more suited for specialty places where they have multiple grinders with multiple beans.
Sure no problemo ! But why can’t they have an espresso that at least is somewhat like a real Italian one …
There is plenty of good coffee in Paris, but you need to go to typically smaller places where they only make that.
Although I don’t drink milk much anymore I wouldn’t know if the cappuccino they make is good.
Coffee lovers and cappuccino are mutually exclusive terms IMHO :D.
Italy entered the chat…
Well, if it’s before 11AM at least
Literally going to be flying to Paris today.
Good to know I guess lol.
We wanted to order pizza and I told my girlfriend (who is Italian) that I might order Pizza Hawaii. Her reflexes kicked in and she bit me.
So tasty that she had to get at the residuals
This does qualify as blasphemy.
Shes a keeper.
Cook carbonara with cream next
I like Pizza Hawaii, that doesn’t mean I’m a war criminal.
I’m pretty sure the Italians would take the war criminal over you.
Source: food debates with Italian friends
Make it with powdered eggs and American bacon to capture the pure, traditional heritage of the fish.
username checks out.
Is calling it Pizza Hawaii new? Seen it three times in this thread but I’ve never seen it anywhere before. Usually people just say Hawaiian pizza. Which is the inferior version of pineapple on Pizza by the way.
I don’t know. I actually never heard of Hawaiian Pizza before.
I’m curious what part of the world you’re from? I’ve never seen it phrased as “Pizza Hawaii” and it hits my brain like a wall just the same as hearing “Pizza Margarita”.
Oh my Gucciness, my mom did that while I was growing up. I learned how to get my carbonara on when I moved to Europe. Damn, I love the traditional carbonara.
Now go to Rome and get it there. I really miss proper carbonara and Amatriciana after moving from Rome to northern Italy.
Curious, is their preference guanciale o pancetta? I tried both, and guanciale is my favorite.
guanciale, 100%.
If you want to piss off an italian make carbonara with cream and pancetta
My bro is legit visiting Rome this week. Will demand he do this. Thanks!
Tell him to not go to restaurants within sight of a famous monument and never if there is someone in the street convincing people to come in.
Or if you want a concrete recommendation, go to Zi Umberto in Trastevere for awesome Roman peasant food. But you need to book.
Would you suggest I try the Bucatini Amatriciana at Zi Umberto?
Absolutely. And if they have the zucchini flowers for starter. And it’s all good, really.
I can’t remember if Artichokes are in season… I think I saw some at the market yesterday, but if they are then the Romans do great things with them. Both Roman and Jewish style.
Rn he and his two young daughters are at Piazza Navona. Gimme the action list, youItaliansz.
Now show her this (hint: top-left corner).
Once in Italy my wife tried ordering a pizza with chicken and they just straight up laughed at her and said ‘Not in Italy!’, but like… not in a mean way.
Well yeah, nobody calls it that. It’s Hawaiian Pizza.
“Nobody”
Is it just in Germany then?
Damn, just when you are about to forgive a country for their misdeeds.
I am almost sure it’s also in Italy. But gf is sleeping. Can’t ask.
Edit: Ok, I woke her up and it’s a bit more complicated. You usually say things like Pizza con “ingredient” or Pizza alla “stuff”. There are some pizzas that a famous and these are called Pizza “Name”. So, if the country of Italy ever would accept the existence of Pizza Hawaii, it would be called that.
To be fair, Italian pizza is a separate beast entirely, essentially a completely different food.
No way this is real.
The waiter would have said “Non.”
… wouldn’t that be pronounced the same, though?
Non is pronounced without a complete final n, but air diverts through the sinuses as if you did pronounce the n. Or even as if you said nōng, but didn’t finish saying the g.
Yes, it was joke. To those who don’t speak French, it just sounds like “no” with a French accent.
“No”, on the other han, does not sound like “non” to the French; they’re used to differentiating nasal versus non-nasal vowels.
Non
😳
No she was in a deep shock that she forgot her mother tongue and the brain switched to the next available language.
and the brain switched to the
next availablefactory default language, English.
Who tf drinks that? I’d rather have a Hawaii pizza. Totally acceptable answer
My guess would be someone who is lactose intolerant
Or someone who is vegan.
Or someone who just likes the taste of oat milk.
Personally I’m not vegan and I do drink dairy milk, but I also love oat milk and often order my coffee that way. It adds a kind of nutty taste which I really like. Would recommend trying it sometime.
Or someone who prefers products with a lower carbon footprint.
Or someone who just likes the taste of oat milk.
👋 Came for the veganism, staid for the taste. Esp. in coffee it’s better than cow’s milk imo. [I need to differentiate between oatmilk and barista oatmilk though. I don’t much care for the latter.]
Same here with plant milk in coffee. It gives you a ton of really yummy variety. I’ve accidentally had dairy milk put in my coffee, and every time I recognize it by how noticeably worse the coffee tastes.
Another one for me was nutritional yeast on popcorn. I mixed it into my usual popcorn seasoning, and popcorn legitimately isn’t as good to me now without nooch.
What’s barista oatmilk? I’ve seen it in the store, but I don’t buy it because I drink my coffee black.
Afaik it’s a slightly different mix of ingredients (more fat, or less fat or more sugar or something) that is supposed to be better for making froth.
It just has a higher fat content to help create a stable foam. Usually sunflower oil
Additives to not curdle etc.
I’m like this with soy. It tastes fancy. It’s the only milk I get when I get a coffee from somewhere. It’s not the same making my own tho so I use whole milk for that.
Well I know a source of yummy nutty white liquid too.
Would you just go up to a stranger on the street and say that nonsense? And if you can, resist the jackass urge to just say “yes” and actually fucking consider the question honestly.
I got off of animal milk before I went vegan or even vegetarian. Plant milk is just superior in every way.
It lasts much longer in the refrigerator, for one thing. With cow milk, I had to keep reminding myself to drink it because it would go rancid in a few days.
It lasts much longer in the refrigerator
You are actually supposed to discard it after like 10 days after opening
Cow milk always tastes a bit off so I’m never sure when it’s really off.
We keep almond milk for drinks and cereal, powdered milk for cooking (because macaroni and cheese/some sauces just don’t want almond milk).
(I’m not vegetarian, just low-meat enough that I have to compensate for a B12 deficiency. Jazz hands).
I’m never sure when it’s really off
I’m all for alternative milks, but you’ll know when the milk’s really off. If it smells farmyard-y and a little sour, it’s probably on its last day but it won’t hurt you. When it’s splitting, it’s no good.
I only say this because I know way too many people who dump milk that’s still got the best part of a week on it because it’s got any sort of smell, and it’s super wasteful.
B12 is also artificially given into animal fodder. Look into enriched alternatives (ie alpro does alot) if thats the actual reasoning in the last statement.
enriched example
In countries corpos need to stick to give “nutritional value tables” for each animal, there u can see how much supplements are given. Which is done because its just cheaper for the short time they need to “grow”. on that note quality standards for supplements via lab tests are non existent, which is even hard to get for human consumption already.
Its all a big fairy tale the lobby doesnt want you to be correctly educated on
Oh, no worries. I compensate with a B12 supplement. I just need the supplement because my diet doesn’t otherwise contain enough B12. I’m low-meat because I want to reduce my environmental impact, cows are cute, pork violently disagrees with me, and I don’t like chicken.
^ I am rather fond of not risking shitting myself.
Hawaiian Pizza is the best pizza, Nickelback is the greatest band, and Tom Brady is the greatest quarterback. Have at it.
The Zune was the superior mp3 player.
The Duke was the best controller ever made.
Only because it can also be used as a weapon. Kyoketsu-shoge https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyoketsu-shoge#%3A~%3Atext=The+kyoketsu-shoge+has+a%2Cand+many+such+other+uses.
Windows is the best operating system.
Too far
hp makes the best printers.
Tesla makes the best cars
To be fair, the problem with Hawaiian Pizza isn’t the pineapple, it’s that pineapple + canadian bacon just doesn’t have enough flavor. If you’re going to go full American-style pizza, you gotta overload those taste buds.
For example, I love pineapple with jalapeno and some kind of flavorful meat (philly steak, salami, etc).
My problem with pineapple on pizza is when the pineapple isn’t hydrated enough. Should be juicy. Which also keeps the cheese from drying out too much. One trick is to ask for the cheese on top of the pineapple. This also works for tomatoes. You get these delicious bursts of flavour instead of dry shriveled textures
Oat milk is superior to any other milk (including dairy) for coffee and I will fight anyone who disagrees
I like soy milk in my coffee :)
So not a 34% heavy cream person eh?
Woah! Calm down! I don’t wanna fight. Plus my tummy is not into dairy products that much. It was just the all: “I ordered a latte with oat milk in Paris” thing that sounded more of a San Francisco stuff to me. My favourite barman in my favourite bar told me last week: “I don’t do cocktails” when I ordered a gin and tonic. Everything more complicated than a beer or a coffee is a cocktail.
Vegans and people who juat like oatmilk in there coffee. Give a try sometime, it’s good
Not OP, but… I’ve had it once. And it will probably stay at that number to end of my days. Oat milk is just gross for me, felt wrong at all possible levels.
But cow juice is somehow fine?
Yes, for me it is.
Totally fair lol, it isn’t for everyone. I like how it makes my coffee taste nutty
Everyone is different and that’s how it’s supposed to be. Glad you like it.
It’s oats and water.
anyone who would rather not add cow blood and pus to their order?
You know the answer to that.
I’m a french vegetarian living in France after living 6 years in Scotland, France is years behind on the diet inclusion issue, I was shocked how difficult it was to find a place to eat out in Paris, way too many cafe/restaurant/etc… gets defensive and refuse to serve you if you don’t have the “historical diet” (whatever that means) of france, and a lot of them don’t offer any “common alternative diet” options on the menu. And it’s not better outside of Paris.
Then of course there are some great places that try to include everyone regardless of their diet, and they are increasing in numbers, but they are still the exception rather than the norm which is a shame.
If you ever goes in Paris and looking for a fully vegetarian classy restaurant, I recommand “Polichinelle”, it’s a bit on the expensive side (~50 euro/person), but it’s high level cuisine, and for a special occasion it’s really worth it.
A French person decrying the lack of quality food in Paris in comparison to Scotland. British cuisine is truly amazing.
Haha, Indeed the irony is at its maximum. Although, I think haggis was pretty good (even the vegetarian version)
While I’m talking about it, have you guys seen the documentaries about wild haggis ? https://youtu.be/tvLXG4_SoO4
Italy is just as bad with this kind of stuff, at least in my experience. I’m not even vegan or vegetarian, but I saw it happen a lot when I was there. They had the same kind of “historical diet” excuse, and I’m sitting here thinking “you fuckers didn’t even get tomatoes until the 16th century and now you’re acting like you invented them.”
I hate food purists so much.
All of Europe is highly anti veg. As it should be.
You’ll be hard-pressed to find a German restaurant without a good choice of vegetarian options and at least some vegan ones. Germany is about 2% vegan, 10% ovo-lacto-vegetarian, and 55% flexitarian. That’s 67% of the population having an active look at those choices and you’d be very out of place with “if there’s no meat it’s not food” comments. You just insulted a huge number of quite cherished traditional dishes.
Go on, go, go to Swabia and say that Käsespätzle are not food. I’m waiting. They’ll probably lock you into a madhouse.
Proof: just trust me bro.
Pasta too lol Cut it with the knife and you get to eat for free… until they kick you out
Never been to Italy, but I expected it would be even worse over there, Italians are often very invested in their opinion about food😄 some of my Italian friends can spend the whole meal debating about what they are eating
Not many vegan options around, but one place in Sorrento made me the best vegan pizza I ever had when I asked (there was nothing vegan on the menu). No vegan cheese necessary, I think it was the crust and oil that made it. Got bored of the same tomato pasta item every night at the hotel though.
One of the most basic pizza, the marinara (tomato, oil, garlic, oregano) is technically vegan and any pizzeria worth its name will have it on the menu.
Interesting, thanks. The Sorrento place was a cafe so they didn’t specialise in pizza, but it sure was good. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a marinara pizza marked vegan here in Oz. They probably all use bulk garlic sauce bottles with milk as ingredient.
I’m guessing you’re not in Melbourne then, but Red Sparrow is a fully vegan pizza restaurant with a few locations there. Very good, from what I’ve heard.
