Subbed!
It’s like you don’t get the idea at all!
Shit, they got me!
I don’t see how that’s a “boomer” complaint lol I’m a millennial and don’t know anyone that’s excited to pay monthly fees for something they already bought
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I’ve always blamed Adobe for the subscription mess, and that started in the early 00’s.
My vintage copy of Adobe CS6 needs knee surgery at this point.
And no gen-Z is happy about this model or pushing its use. It’s mostly being pushed by Gen-X and Boomer executives as a further mode of profit extraction in our rentier economic system.
Sure, we’ll just wait for the gen-Z executives to roll it al back then right? It’ll never happen, this is a money thing, not a generation thing.
that’s the point I was trying to make
There was a joke about “rethinking the Microsoft model” in a 2005 episode of The Office. The move to subscription based software has been in the works for 25 years or more.
This has been the goal of Microsoft for 20 years, like you stated. Bill Gates stated it. We’re just now to the point of ubiquitous internet connectivity, and cultural conditioning to accept this model.
Windows itself is eventually going to be a subscription service, with all your data saved on Microsoft’s servers. Microsoft announced at the end of last year a dumb Office terminal that does just this, to test the waters.
not only that, but people usually use boomer, in this context, to say that the complaint is stupid, or selfish, or something
the gradual loss of ownership is a real fucking issue
In the future, you’ll own nothing and like it!
Why wait? You can already own nothing
Wait, you guys own something?
“Boomer” has lost all meaning. It has just become an empty counter for when you disagree with someone but you lack the emotional intelligence to have an actual discussion about something other the superficial.
Most boomers don’t even use any paid software aside from Windows and an antivirus they got tricked into buying
It’s because a lot of boomers own their homes and the concept of rent is foreign to them.
I really don’t understand why people call themselves homeowners when they are paying off a 30 year mortgage.
Feels like rent with extra steps.
I mean it depends on whether they actually pay it off. Many boomers were able to leverage the explosion in housing prices into paying off their cheap mortgages ahead of time. The boomer success metric is actually based on this principle. Buy a $150k house in 1998. Sell it in 2018 for $450k. The mortgage is irrelevant.
The obvious problem with this is that it completely fucks over the next generation.
The thing is, you never really “own” your home. Don’t pay your property taxes, and see what happens. You just pay less when the mortgage loan is paid off.
I blame iPhone and Android apps that required developers to keep paying a $100 minimum yearly fee to keep an app in the App Store.
There were tons $1-$5 apps in the early days of the stores, but 3-4 years in they switched to either freemium subscriptions or adware (or ad ransom models). Usually as publishers bought out indie devs, if they just didn’t copy them anyway.
Because software needs to be maintained. Well at least most software that has a subscription model is maintained and gets regular updates. People don’t work for free, you have to pay them
That’s the result of a fucked business model. Many software devs came and went prior to the subscription model. Technofeudalism is not wanted by anyone but the software publishers.
I don’t think you can compare software from like 20 years ago to software today.
Things got way more complicated and applications require a lot more work
To them, it’s the perfect business model. Keep you customers in perpetual debt, and dependent.
Finding economic rents is the core of capitalism. It’s so iconic even Adam Smith railed against it
Boomer complaint? Why can’t I smoke an after dinner cigarette at the restaurant in peace without people whining at me to get up and go outside? And what is it with all this “rap music” on the radio? I’ll rather take Chet Baker any day of the week.
Why don’t kids just walk into the store, shake hands with a manager, and get a job immediately?
Somebody understood the assignment! That being said smokers while you are still eating are pretty tough on some people.
Duh, just sit in the non smoking section and you’ll be fine.
Non smoking section?
Oh you sweet summer child.
I meant to imply it not existing in some locations.
And why can’t I just grab the secretary’s ass and get a date, without her getting all mouthy?
/s, obviously.
they just need to outlaw subscription based services on services that don’t need it.
And no continuous support is not a valid subscription reason, if you want to charge support separate that’s fair to do but this pay 60$ a year “because it’s a continuous development” needs to go away.
Same with the “pay a rent for a building”, it’s just money drain. Being a landlord should not be allowed to be for profit, and should be heavily regulated. If you wanna rent? Sure, but at max it should be equivalent to costs the building has, and restricted to only apartment complexes. So annoying that you can’t find property anymore to actually /own/ because a handful of rental companies can just write a blank check and buy it all.
if you want to charge support separate that’s fair to do but this pay 60$ a year “because it’s a continuous development” needs to go away
Can i pay extra to not have continuous updates that often breaks shit?
Use and support open source where ever possible
Actually supporting open source looks a lot like a subscription service. I donate monthly to a handful of projects that I use regularly.
The same people complaining about software subscriptions also complained that shrink wrapped software was too expensive and didn’t get free updates for life.
How is that a boomer complaint? It’s basic. Microsoft Word should be buy once for 3 computers, as it always was until subs took over.
We can’t even read the news anymore without a sub.
I like the use of the word rent for this.
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Nah, absolutely not. Putting a profit incentive on the news is how we end up with how the news currently is - reaction-bait with the sole purpose of driving engagement and views to generate ad revenue, instead of actual, unbiased, honest journalism.
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I wouldn’t say it was just that. News also got worse on e.g. government supported TV channels in countries that have them. Part of the problem is the regurgitation of social media on the news and also news organizations being afraid of social media backlash. Another part is politicians not giving interviews to organizations that ask them hard questions, that one was probably better in the past because there were more limited numbers of news sources.
If you want narrow readership. Or a society that bases its current events knowledge almost strictly on headlines instead of article content.
People can’t afford groceries. Rent. There is a profound increase in garbage both along highways and in rural locations because it’s the first utility to be sacrificed in the name of survival.
Paying $x per month to dig deeper in on a headline, while the above is happening, isn’t going to occur on any grand scale.
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Gatekeeping the news? No ty.
Do you think the news just appears on webpages for us to consume?
Particularly in the case of investigative journalism, there is a skill involved in writing the stories, and it consumes the time and effort of many people.
Charging money for your work is not “gatekeeping.” It’s how you keep eating.
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I think it depends on the type of software. Subscriptions do make sense for software that requires regular updates, e.g. something tax related, where you need it updated with the latest regulations every year. Basically for anything that won’t be useful a year from the purchase date without feature updates.
Seeing a subscription actually makes my decision easy. I see it and immediately know to avoid.
Are wages a subscription service?
Please subscribe to my body so I don’t die.
I know this is not a serious comment but I’m gonna reply as if it were I would argue that wages are not a subscription service, here’s why.
A subscription means the company is guaranteed money in exchange for providing a service. The customer can not and will not get that money back.
A worker who earns a wage can be very easily screwed out of money they were “guaranteed” but because their contract stipulates the worker turned in their shirt with a stain on it after quitting, they dont get their final paycheck. (actual clause at a job I had)
Boomer? Thats just a HUMAN complaint!
Do kids these days think boomers are 20yo?
I thought it was a boomer is “older than me” and a millennial is “dem youngens”. /s
All kids think anyone older than them is a boomer. Actual boomers think all kids are millennials. Millennials can’t catch a fucking break at either end.
Gen X is left out of the conversation, and doesn’t care.
I work and socialize with many Gen Xers and they are very near and dear to my heart, so please know that I say this will all the love in the world. Gen X is left out of the conversation because they’re irrelevant to it. They want so badly what their boomer parents had that they may as well just be boomers. If we’re talking comedy, music, culture, Gen X has made some brilliant contributions, but when the topic is Millennials getting dragged, Gen X doesn’t get mentioned because there’s no meaningful generational distinction between them and the Boomers. They’ve blended in with the very system we are critiquing. And if they’re not mentioned there will literally always be a comment like this. Trust me, no one has forgotten you, Gen X. But despite all your rage you are still just a rat in a cage.
🖕🏽🖕🏽🖕🏽🖕🏽🖕🏽🖕🏽
We can’t catch a break ever.
Like we all started having memories of stuff and it all went down from there
As far as I can tell, the word “boomer” has shifted from “an out-of-touch adult from the baby boomer generation” to “an out-of touch adult.”
piracy my dudes. stop giving them money altogether.
Yarr! Raise the black flag!
Why i wont use iRacing. Sucks that it’s so popular.
meanwhile, companies are killing lifetime licenses that were previously paid for.
Yep I remember clearly the first time this happened to me with Splashtop Remote in like 2012. And more recently 4K video downloader. “4K video downloader is being deprecated, please upgrade to our new application, 4K video downloader” Literally only difference is my lifetime license is no longer good and I’d have to buy a subscription.
Well, too bad there are easier ways to download content and even if there wasn’t you have made sure I will never get anywhere near your products ever again.
That’s strange, 4k allowed me to upgrade my lifetime sub key to a new key for the new program.
Whaaaat?? That’s interesting, thanks. I will definitely have to look into that. I didn’t bother with the new one I just got mad lol
I just double checked my emails, and I forgot I did have to pay $7 AUD (like 4.50 USD) to upgrade it, which annoyed me a little at the time but was cheap enough I decided to swallow it.
This is wild. I decided to see what was what and clicked the link in my email to upgrade. It took me to the upgrade site and I pasted in my license key also retrieved from an email, and it said the license was inactive. I tried to retrieve the key again in case they had changed it, but it said no key associated with my email. Again they had emailed me the link to upgrade. Then I moved to my PC where I clicked the link in the application to upgrade and it autofilled my license key, same issue. Oh well, I put in a ticket, but I’m no worse off than I was before. Thanks for the info, though.
