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  • The article literally states that it’s the lack of job opportunities because of the lack of transferable skills and having to only fill gaps in the job market, the pandemic, and the bad economy that’s causing them to go back. I’m just relaying what the source is saying, I’m not making or changing any story. The only person who claimed I was saying it’s the root issue is the other person I was replying to. I never said so even in my first comment. I have no idea how or why you think I need to project.

    If you think I have some agenda about turning this into an HK-China debate, then I’m sorry but it’s you who’s projecting. It’s so weird how people on here are so hostile and defensive when someone is just pointing out details written in the source article.





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    What a coincidence, because I saw a dead mouse on my front lawn yesterday when I went out to trim the grass. I know there’s a stray cat in my neighborhood so I’m pretty sure it’s the one shitting in my backyard (dogs can’t possibly get over the fence) and leaving dead rodents.





  • Yup, I am not claiming it is the root issue, just that I think it’s one of the reasons for their struggles, based on the examples given by the article, and because I can relate. Native born people in the UK having the same issues certainly show it’s not limited to immigrants, so it’s not a specific issue that’s special to HK citizens moving to the UK, it’s a global issue that happens everywhere where people move, and some move back because they couldn’t find good opportunities. And while the author presumes some of the respondents are not telling the truth, the survey results did say 99 per cent of those interviewed did not plan to return.


  • Not sure if you caught my last edit before you replied, but there is certainly basis for my assertion, like my lawyer and doctor examples. Another example from the article is the teacher, whose qualifications might be a gray area because of different educational systems, so it may or may not be transferable. Tech workers definitely have an edge there as those skills are universal, and in that case it boils down to availability of jobs.

    My best basis of assertion is my own lived experience. I work in tech, so it was relatively easy to transfer my skills and my employer just had to prove I could fill the job vacancy. My sibling who is a lawyer doesn’t have that same opportunity because their degree and title are not recognized in other countries. My other sibling on the other hand is a RN in our home country, and by getting qualified via the destination country’s affiliated-bodies, they are able to transfer their qualifications to at least caregiver status and work in that kind of job.


  • Right, transferable doesn’t necessarily mean you have to be highly educated or skilled, just that there are opportunities available for that skill that need to be filled. Hence it was also mentioned in the article that the lorry driver who moved had no issues finding a similar job with the same pay. Sometimes it boils down to what opportunities are available, not necessarily how educated or highly skilled you are. Another example the article states is that professionals like doctors and lawyers who obtained qualifications from UK-affiliated bodies had it easier. Those who didn’t have skills that aren’t immediately transferable due to having different standards in HK and UK. So a lawyer in HK for example can’t just go to the UK and immediately practice there. Some doctors may transition to nurses because of lower requirements.


  • It is worth noting that the ones who chose to return had the unfortunate circumstance of not having transferable skills and ended up working low paying jobs compared to what they had at home. Most of the people who had transferable skills have good paying jobs and are living comfortably. Most of the people surveyed also said they did not wish to return. I’m guessing someone who chose to move did not like their present circumstances in the first place so it’s not surprising that the majority want to stay.