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Let’s be honest. Henry doesn’t have to ask.
So I recently found out my ex wife had a type. A type she desperately wanted me to fit into. A type that she would make me go to clothing stores for specific shirts that look good on pretty much no one but Henry Cavill.
I did not look like Henry Cavill. Turns out around the time we divorce she goes through this phase swooning over Henry Cavill. Then she cheats on me with a dude I don’t know the name of (except I’ve unfortunately seen his dick) and low and behold he has this kind Henry Cavill build.
Fast forward several years to now. I lost about 100lbs. Started lifting. Getting swole cause it was fun now that my body was smaller. Ate more protein, added creatine. Drink lots of water. I need different shirts. I dig out some old shirts, the only ones that sort of fit well are the ones she got at clothing stores that look good on pretty much no one but Henry Cavill. Turns out they still don’t look good on me, not because I’m not Henry Cavill, but I’m not a fuckboy.
Then she cheats on me with a dude I don’t know the name of (except I’ve unfortunately seen his dick)
This seems like it could be an interesting story, do you mind sharing?
For some… solidarity? Doesn’t seem like the right word but whatever… I know the name of the guy my wife cheated on me with - he’s our son’s best friend’s dad.
Creatine doesn’t actually help build muscles by itself it just gives you more energy and the long term effects are unknown other than developing a dependency so idk maybe just stick to the literal overdose of caffeine in more traditional pre-workouts.
Or don’t, it’s probably fine. I’m sure the dudes sticking $10k in tren a week into their bodies to sell you the damn stuff wouldn’t lie.
That’s absolute nonsense. Your body produces a lot of creatine every day. Like, it’s what the majority of arginine in your diet goes to making. The science is a bit iffy on whether it helps you lifting. There are some quite convincing studies that it helps cognitive function in vegetarians. Vegetarians don’t get creatine in their diet, they have to make it themselves. If the diet is a bit poor in arginine as well then it makes sense that they are slightly deficient. If you get most of your protein from whey they you will also have a low creatine / arginine diet and a supplement makes sense.
Creatine works as an energy buffer in cells. There might only be a couple of seconds worth of energy in ATP but I seem to remember that creatine-P gives the cell up to a minute of energy. IIRC especially important in neurons because they don’t perform anaerobic production of energy from glucose.
And taking excess amounts fucks with your body’s internal regulatory systems and reduces its ability to produce it normally.
“That’s nonsense”
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You’re talking about anabolic steroids, not creatine.
Source?
Thanks to the rapid enshittification of Google I can’t seem to find the actual studies anymore but it’s just how your body and homeostasis works. You can find plenty of older body building forums talking about it though, it was just a known fact.
The good news is it’s by all accounts pretty temporary, about 1-3 months before you return to pre-supplement levels. The problem as always is these studies are never on long term effects, they’ll give people 3-5g for a few months and then record the results.
It’s never “we made gym rats stop their twenty year old habit to record what happens because they’re gym rats and who the hell knows what else they put in their body.”
Creatine is probably safe if you keep it below 3-5g. The point is that we don’t know the long term negatives and the benefit isn’t building more muscle it’s having more energy for the workout.
If you’re not the type of gym goer that exhausts themselves every day you don’t need it.
That’s what I thought too.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements-creatine/art-20347591
Plus the stuff is cheap. And its not a stimulant.
Creatine helps to water in muscles though?
I searched this text because I thought it might be copypasta. Great read lmao
Feels like it sometimes NGL
I can’t even lie I thought the same
That’s a lotta Henry Cavill in your life, are you sure you’re not Henry Cavill?
Very sure.
I harbor no ill will to the dude tho. He is not the reason my ex is the way she is.
Real talk, I thought this was going to end with you going to Henry Cavill’s house to punch him in his perfect jaw, followed by an enemies to lovers twist.
This is still good though. I guess.
That would have been a better ending.
And quite possibly a viable ending. He’s a nerd, I’m a nerd. He plays Warhammer 40k I paint Warhammer 40k minis. He likes to act, I used to like to act. He works out. I started working out.
Hell, we might be the kind of dudes to be actually good friends. My ex would probably use the connection to try and get with him, and he could like turn her down. That’d be more awesome than I could ever imagine.
Ok so yes looking like Henry Cavill helps but how do you expect to go on a date with someone you like without asking them out? An amulet of Mara?
I thought you were supposed to sit there and blush every time they look at you (but avoid eye contact) and then (redacted) and you’re married
You must have asked a woman, ime that’s the “big hint” that I’m the idiot for missing. No if you’re a dude you have to pursue them but also not do that at all.
How would you define “pursue”? Because it sounds like a predatory tactic to me.
Me too, but I’m told “women don’t want to be the aggressor, they want to be pursued” and then there’s the ridiculous concept of “playing hard to get,” which I’m somehow supposed to be able to navigate.
Never fully understood any of it myself, so I can’t help much. Much easier to just not talk to people, especially as a neurodivergent.
There are no rules, there are no guarantees, there is only respect, that’s the only thing you need to bring to the table. Stop listening to antiquated sexist bullshit and just treat people like people, drop this incel bullshit, approach them the way you would feel comfortable being approached and get rid of any expectations, both for yourself and the other person. It’s really nowhere near as complicated as you’re trying to make it out to be.
Playing hard to get is a red flag, those people are fucked up and ego driven, don’t play games with people and don’t let people play games with you.
approach them the way you would feel comfortable being approached
I would feel comfortable with a woman walking up to me and saying, “hi, let’s fuck” so I don’t think your advice is very good.
Tbf the “antiquated sexist bullshit” is told to me by women themselves, not irl Cotton Hill.
Just the other week a coworker was asking how to get (some guy I’ve never met) to ask her out, I said (as I always do) “Fuck it dude ask him yourself, it’s probable he misses the signals entirely or is worried about being creepy for misreading you just being nice,” to which she replied “no, women want to be pursued, I can’t ask him out.” And it wasn’t the first time I’d heard it, (even replied “yeah I know, but it usually works”). Sooo idk, maybe it’s really just that they’re afraid of rejection but saying that doesn’t sound as cool as wanting to be “pursued,” or maybe it is just nice to feel wanted for everyone and this is just an extension of it, but it is what it is, whatever that is. I’m just believing what they tell me for lack of evidence to the contrary. She’s cool and usually honest though afaik, we’re friends and shit, so, idk.
I’m also told it’s creepy to approach people in public except at a bar, which I no longer frequent. Then I’m told “get a hobby” but also “women don’t want to be approached while they’re trying to play d&d (example hobby),” and I’m also told to go to the gym, but then told that women don’t want another guy being a creep trying to talk to them at they gym (plus it feels disingenuous pretending I work out just to meet women, I’m also plenty active and just in shapeish from that I guess.) It’s probably fine if you’re not diagnosed as “literally does not understand social cues” ADHD and something something executive function (I have the paperwork somewhere. Somewhere…) or if you don’t care if people think you’re creepy. But for me it’s too much to navigate it regularly.
To the playing hard to get people, you’re probably right, but I’ve never got close enough to find out, because if I even ask to begin with, at the first no I say “ok” and never ask again.
Fuck it, be a self defeatist, I’m done.
The problem isn’t the asking, its the always having them say yes.
Why would you need a 100% success rate? Meanwhile, not asking has something like a greater than 90% failure rate in the current western dating paradigm.
Amulets of Mara should honestly be a thing for normal people that don’t want to use an app designed for shallow fucking.
shallow fucking
is that what the kids call “just the tip” nowadays?
I mean, it is tempting to buy a replica Amulet of Mara and go to bars with it proudly on. Anyone that understood the meaning would prossibly be within compatibility range.
I mentioned it because I’ve personally chatted up someone wearing one before, so it does totally work at certain nerdy conventions, as does carrying a Horga’hn.
Step 1. Be a young male with a terrible home life and only male friends, learn to communicate only through irony and sarcasm, preserve a culture of condemning or making fun of any genuine expressions of emotion or empathy from others because it’s “cringe.”
Step 2. Have ONE date in your teens in high-school with another teen who has no idea what she’s doing either, have it end badly as most teen relationships do.
Step 3. Use that experience to color your entire world-view for the rest of your life and start consuming manosphere content to relieve yourself of the discomfort of remembering how terrible that one romantic experience went. “It’s not you, it’s her!” should be echoing in your head every day.
Step 4. Really internalize other people’s ideas, thoughts and experiences as long as it validates what you’re feeling. Distance yourself from women even further, convince yourself they have nothing to offer you and are less-than-human so you have nothing you can learn from a “female.”
Step 5. Don’t forget to hate yourself most of all, wallow in your virginity like it’s your entire sense of self, think about sex constantly and hate yourself for it, develop a crushing porn habit that dulls your ability to feel pleasure from daily life. Self-medicate with games, escapism and drugs and alcohol. Ruminate on your depressive thoughts until you’ve picked your emotions raw like a scab that won’t heal.
Step 6. Make your disgust for women part of your entire identity, develop political views that also validate these feelings, avoid people in your life different from yourself lest they remind you that there are alternative perspectives in the world, only your own experiences and your own misery matters. Scowl in disgust when you see an attractive woman with a man, have dark, violent fantasies about having power, control, and bad things happening to people who aren’t you. Over-correct your sense of masculinity to an absurd degree, avoid the color pink, don’t touch your own ass in the shower, sneer in disgust at any attempt by others to reach you and talk about life or offer advice, they’re just NPC’s and are brainwashed by liberal media! None of this is real! We’re in The Matrix people!!
Step 7. A beautiful, submissive woman who fits all your ideals will now approach you and beg you to marry her. You will live happily ever after.
It works 100% of the time.
Note that he says: “just ask her out”.
Don’t try to find out anything more about her. Don’t try to see if maybe she might be interested. Don’t do anything other than ask her out.
Now, sure, it’s going to be hard to get someone to go out with you unless at some point you ask them out. But, if you follow his advice you’re probably going to face a lot more rejection before you get a yes… unless you look like him.
The thing is: If you ask her out (in real life, not through some shitty app) and you are not super creepy or awkward about it you already have an advantage above 90% of the dudes who write weird messages to her… it’s the date when you find out more about her
Note that he says “if you like her”, not “if you think a stranger is hot”
This entirely speaks to a situation where you like someone, know their interests,etc, but you’re nervous about ruining the relationship you do have. AKA my entire high school experience lol
I should get chin implants
UnexpectedMulaney
Fun fact, the Crimson Chin’s alter ego is Henry Cavill
chinplants? Chimplants?
Chimplantees
[queue super hero intro]
Here comes the Crimson Chin!
I should get Henry Cavill implants.
I should get Henry Cavill in me
Have you tried just asking him out?
Thanks bro
Just gotta follow rules 1 & 2
I was about to ask who cares what some random dude says, but judging by the comments I’m the only one who isn’t familiar with him.
lol he’s the DCEU superman actor as well as for the Netflix The Witcher series, The Tudors, Man from UNCLE, Mission Impossible: Fallout.
I don’t think it’s relevant to this specific meme though. He’s just handsome as all hell.
Amy [Adams] said, “Whenever I looked into his eyes, I started giggling because he has this effect on you. I think most women feel the same way about Henry. He’s dreamy.”
Well, turns out I’m not gay afterall, because he does nothing for me.
Yeah he’s handsome, but have you seen Mads Mikkelsen? Uggghhhhhh 🤤
Jesus this guy is picky
I should get him implants 😏
i mean people tend to like confidence, also you get to stop wallowing in ignorance. conventionally attractive or not, either they say yes or no and then you get to move forward from there. going from not knowing to knowing, that is a positive.
You should know when it is appropriate to ask and when not:
Don’ts:
- complete strangers
- people who cannot retreat, e.g. cashiers, waiters and the like, on a busy train/bus in an elevator etc.
- people clearly not in a space to socialize.
- asking for sex
- being ambigious about intentions
Do’s:
- people you held a normal conversation with before
- in a space where they are comfortable and either party can leave easily if things get awkward
- being clear about it being a date
- public place with individual privacy, e.g. going out for a coffee
- no alcohol or other drugs
Gotta say, this looks like a recipe for hamstringing yourself. Be confident. Be respectful. Accept that you’ll get rejected, sometimes harshly, and that you just have to get back out and try again.
Like, seriously, you shouldnt introduce yourself to a woman at a party who is having a drink? I know we’re on Lemmy, but that’s still a pretty autistic take on human social interactions.
Did you even read what it wrote? Nowhere do i say that.
If you only strike conversations with people at a party with the intent of getting into their pants, you will not be invited to many parties. If you hold a conversation and then start to like each other, asking for a date is something different.
Sorry, I should have also added: don’t be autistic.
Yeah, have other conversations. Meet people. Have a good time at a party. And then when you see someone hot, say hi and flirt with them, and then go by vibe and see if they wanna jump in the sack with you.
You said “no alcohol or drugs”. You’re aware that a shit ton of relationships start in bars, clubs, house parties, music festivals, etc? You just explicitly excluded one of the most common scenarios where people do their mating dances.
My experience is that such relationships usually end badly and quickly. Also sleeping around is not curing being an “incel”. It is just masking the insecurity, lack of maturity and lack of responsible behavior.
However if you meet at a bar and decide to meet for a date later, having alcohol or drugs involved in that date also is a huge red flag. That means the person doing drugs has issues with their emotional regulation. Also especially for women doing drugs with some relatively unknown men is increasing the risk of being date-raped.
If you aren’t a creep, don’t do creepy shit. Involving alcohol and other drugs definitely is worse for everyone involved than being sober.
Okay, you are seriously terminally online. “Let’s grab a drink” is a classic first date. I can go to literally dozens of bars tonight and see tons of people out on first dates over a reasonable amount of alcohol. Like, Jesus fucking Christ you’re off the deep end if you think this constitutes creepy behavior.
That a lot of people have a problem with drinking and drug abuse and we have a toxic drinking culture doesn’t make it a good idea to join in on it.
Many women are victims to sexual violence and domestic violence during their life. While these also happen without alcohol or other drugs, these increase the chance of violence significantly.
If you are serious about the other person, stay sober.
It is only anecdotically but none of the people i know had a club/bar/festival relationship survive. And when they ended, they ended with a lot of drama. One couple i knew briefly that went to parties together all thf time later accused each other of being violent.
Meanwhile the people that met through shared hobbies and friends do quite well, or managed to end their relationships in a respectful manner when things didnt work out.
But i guess not doings drugs and warning of their detriment means i am being “terminally online”. After all, all the cool kids do drugs. And the older they get while doing that, the cooler they get…
Don’t forget the most important 2:
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Be attractive
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Don’t be unattractive
Important note: While bullet point 1 may be about physical attractiveness, bullet point 2 is not.
Most women in my experience find a clean well dressed man more attrattive that a hot sitnky styless mofo. Take care of yourself. Face card can decline gentleman privilege is real.
What is attractive and unattractive is always relative. I have seen fat girls with thin guys. And fat guys with thin girls. Many people who seemingly had a major disconnect in looks. But both found one another attractive.
For me I am quite OK with a chubby gal as much as a petite gal. But I am not attracted to either extreme. I knew an anorexic-like skinny girl and I found her far less attractive than even a very obese girl. The anorexic gal generated some concern for me because she was clearly starving, but couldn’t eat much. Not due to a fear of getting fat, but to a metabolic issue.
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This. Also, don’t put them on the spot. If unsure, give your number and let them decide. If she’s interested, she’ll text, if not you haven’t forced her to make a decision on the spot.
Definitely. Looking like Henry Cavill makes it easier, but confidence is really the main attraction. I know guys less attractive men sleep with Victoria’s Secret-type women. And there is actually a study on men who are perpetually single, and the common denominator is being under-confident. But at the same time, you don’t want to be overconfident and thus arrogant.
oh totally. my wife is gorgeous, and she spent a bit too much time in our social circles single because everyone (myself included) was too intimidated to ask her out. we were friends for ages, she started giving me a hard time about having her number for like eight years but never asking her on a date, my ego wasn’t going to stand for that and here we are.
To be fair, it took her years to ask you to ask her. She could have just asked too.
this point has come up in the year since
My wife asked me out. Only time a woman has ever done that to me. Only time she had ever done it. I thought she was attractive but I honestly didn’t expect that. Knowing what I know about her now, it took a lot of courage for her to do that.
She shot her shot and hit a bullseye. There are no good reasons for women to spend all their time waiting on men to initiate.
That’s what I thought about my wife… We worked together, I wasn’t looking for a relationship, in fact had just come out of a bad one and intended to be single for a while, but she was persistent in putting herself close to me, and while she didn’t exactly “ask me out” she did push me into situations that very much resembled dates… After about a year we moved in together, then another year we were married… 19 years and 2 kids later, she started up a relationship with another guy in much the same way, but I was preoccupied with health problems so didn’t notice for a couple months. When I did start to notice, she told me I was crazy, ridiculous, a few other not nice things, said he was “just a friend” or “nice to talk to”… But that she wanted a divorce because she had been unhappy for pretty much our entire marriage. I ended up having to talk to the other guy (because of course it was someone we both knew, our son’s best friend’s dad in fact) to get confirmation, and found out just how long it had been going on. He said she had told him we had been separated for “a while” but still living together for the sake of the kids. When I said that wasn’t true, he seemed genuinely distressed and apologized pretty convincingly, and said he was going to break it off… of course I can’t be sure he was being honest either… Holy traumadump, batman…
Sooooo… we’re doing incel shit posting now?
This sort of black pill doomerism seriously destroys your mental health. You don’t have to be a Chad to find a girlfriend friends, but thinking your not “conventionally attractive” enough to date is a self fulfilling prophecy.
You’re boring.
+1 for using “you’re” instead of what the chap above did
I just thought it was funny personally.
It is, but they are also right.
There is such a thing as funny incel propaganda. And let’s not act like beauty doesn’t make the game easier, It’s mostly that incel think that’s the only factor because they tend to be very shallow themselves.
Apparently we’re also going to mix it with deeply toxic envy of celebrities for seasoning.
Imagine how happy the world would be if people suddenly stopped wishing they were someone else and just realized that they only get one fucking chance to live life and every moment you spend wishing you were someone else is just a massive fucking disservice to yourself and people in your life.
He’s not wrong.
Agree, it probably does always work for him
What other tactic is there to get a date? Being told no doesn’t mean it’s a bad strategy, it just means that person isn’t interested in dating you, at which point you move on and ask the next person you feel attracted enough to want to date and if they are interested then they’ll say yes and if not they’ll say no and you move on and repeat. Nobody owes you a yes, regardless of who you are, and I guarantee you Cavill has been turned down before.
I’m no expert, but of course there are other tactics.
I think it’s frowned upon to club someone caveman style
Not ethically, and I wouldn’t qualify the results as a date.
Lol. I’m not a fan of online dating but I wouldn’t call it unethical.
That’s still just asking someone out.
What? No it’s not. Trust me that’s not what Henry is talking about. That’s an algorithm that matches people in an environment where there is much less chance of rejection or ruined friendships. It’s not at all the same. Neither is flirting / suggestions and allowing the other person to ask you when and if they feel ready. Neither is using a matchmaker.
There are so many ways to meet people without going up and just asking them to date you. That works well for a subset of very attractive people but can severely isolate a lot of people.
There rest of the tactic is to be prepared for a yes.
Nothing worse than “oh, cool, so, uh…whatcha wanna do?”
That’ll turn a yes into a no really fast.
Coffee. First date is always coffee.
What if I don’t like coffee?
I don’t know where I saw it, and I can’t seem to find it again, but I remember one video where a girl uses Cavill as an example of what SOME women find attractive. He’s good-looking, yes, but what really got her was how he can talk about his interests with such passion. I’m obviously paraphrasing.
As someone with crippling ADHD, if impassioned talking about my interests is cool, consider me Miles Davis.
Problem is, the same girl who finds it attractive will find it annoying in a week or two, and all of a sudden that thing she liked makes me a jerk.
Problem is, the same girl who finds it attractive will find it annoying in a week or two, and all of a sudden that thing she liked makes me a jerk.
If you can only talk about one thing with any level of passion, yeah people are gonna get bored.
I think a lot of younger folk online really misconstrue what it means to “get hobbies” or “just put yourself out there” and other tired cliches.
It doesn’t mean having X hobby and just standing there around people is going to change how women look at you. It means you have to train your OWN brain to be more comfortable expressing yourself and finding new ways to feel about your situation or interests.
Basically, everyone whines endlessly how they wish they were someone else, but you can literally change who you are on a fundamental level by changing your environment enough and forcing yourself to feel new things. Brains just do that. But people resist the moment they feel something starting to change inside them and recoil as your ego tries to preserve itself. Then they make up reasons why they didn’t commit to change and why they can’t let go of their old-self.
Not too familiar with ADHD, are you?
Intimately familiar, that’s where this kind of knowledge of how brains works comes from, this is process that most people who don’t have ADHD go through naturally in the course of life, ADHD and ASD can make it so you end up stunted slightly and never develop the tools naturally for change and growth.
Yeah yeah well I’m sure I’ll grow out of it.
I don’t know what kind of care and support you’re getting, but if you have an ADHD diagnosis, I hope you’re aware that you still have agency and can still make major improvements to your life, it’s just harder than it is for others. Depending on the severity of the symptoms. You don’t just “grow out of it” normally, you DO have to make deliberate effort to improve the quality of your life if you want that, and that’s one of the major differences between having ADHD and people who don’t, the need to understand in greater detail how the brain works so you know how to manage it.
I’m being dismissive because it’s not likely I’m going to stop talking about my interests any time soon and really don’t care to, but thanks for the advice.
Must be nice to be super hot, very well known, and incredibly wealthy.
you know this isn’t a real quote, right?
… but yeah I’m sure it doesn’t hurt
I feel like you missed step one there, mate.
Step 1. Be. A. God.
Imaginary and vengeful… Got it.
Bro looks like he Superman, they should have had him play Superman at some point
Instead of whatever the hell Man of Steel was
I’m amazed that this “hate the thing to be cool on the internet” approach still works.
I don’t hate Man of Steel because the internet told me to
I hate Man of Steel because it doesn’t understand Superman’s character beyond “Strong guy who punches things”
A movie where Superman stops to save a squirrel > A movie where Superman destroys Metropolis to get to Zod
You should watch that movie again when you’re older. You missed a lot of details because you only saw/focused on the violence.
I don’t hate art and I don’t understand people that do. It may not appeal to me but that’s someone’s interpretation of that item.
I suppose if you want the Superman you described there are so many versions. Take your pick from any of the multiple versions that saved a squirrel.
I saw Man of Steel in my late 20s.
It was nothing but mindless violence. Not Superman at all.
