Why do you guys trust these people that just are using things out of context?
We have four entire years of context. Trump isn’t an unknown quantity by any stretch. We know what he wants to do, even if he wasn’t saying these things.
We have years of them writing bullshit headlines, why do you trust them when they lie over and over?
Have you ever been on a campaign mailing list?
I have gotten mail from campaigns. So I think we agree that they lie to us constantly, why would you believe this thing from harris? And a better question to ask would be why you should just accept her as your candidate when no one really voted for her.
Convicted Felon and Sex Offender Treason Trump sent a mob to overthrow our democracy in a coup attempt. Wanting to become a dictator and end free elections fits in perfectly with absolutely everything we know about Treason Trump’s character. We would be total idiots to ignore Trump saying this shit. If you don’t like it then don’t tell us, tell Treason Trump not to keep saying the neofascist shit in his head.
Yeah I get it, you have memorized the talking points, why do you believe the people that gave you them when they keep lying to you?
Can you provide any context in which “Don’t worry, you won’t need to vote anymore” is not horrifically treasonous?
Not real context, but I imagine the mental gymantics are going: it will be such a tremendous presidency, incredibly great, really, that nobody will ever vote non-republican again. You won’t need to vote anymore. Everyone else will do it for you.
Seriously? That doesnt remotely float.
The context was that he is going to do such an amazing job that voting wont be important because things are so good. I get its silly, which it was probably meant to be, but obviously he was not claiming he was going to be dictator. Why would you believe he would claim that?
Probably because he has literally claimed he will be a dictator (for one day only, wink wink). And probably because he actually attempted, in a number of illegal ways, to not count the last election so he could remain in power. You know, like a dictator.
Look, if this was literally anybody else I’d be willing to use a more charitable interpretation. Call it a gaffe at least. But Trump should have burned every last ounce of benefit of the doubt that anybody has for him the moment he abandoned his colleagues in the Capitol so he could see what the violent mob would do.
We spent the entire 2020 election going “Oh Trump doesn’t really mean it like that.” Until he did exactly what he fucking said he would do. Why are we doing this again?
The issue is that literally every single thing that you guys use is misleading or a direct lie when it comes to trumps rhetoric. And you guys believe this because the media repeats these lies over and over. “No I am thinking for myself”. No you are not, its obvious because the lies they are telling, you repeat exactly the same. Why do you believe these people when they keep lying to you?
Why do you believe Trump when he keeps lying to you? The eagerness to trust the explanation given to you by a literal convicted felon fraudster is astounding.
I dont believe trump… Why do you believe these people when they keep lying to you? If you had a friend that always lied would you believe them when they told you something?
Bud, you’re literally parroting Trump’s faux-naive explanation on what his words meant. But ok.
Feel free to address anything in my post with substance. Tell me that it’s a lie that Trump said he’d be a dictator “for just a day.” Or that he actually didn’t try in multiple illegal ways to overturn the election. Or that he didn’t spend hours doing nothing while his colleagues begged him to stop the assault on the Capitol.
If I’m repeating lies, go on. Show me.
Why do you believe these people when they keep lying to you?
We don’t believe you when you keep lying to us Ivan.
Oh god I’m gonna love to see this pretzel get made.
What exactly is out of context here?
If I understand it right (I only read a comment claiming this he says that specifically for/to Christians that don’t normally vote, trying to convince them to vote this one time. I keep planning to confirm this but have not taken the time to do so yet.
Anyone have a link to this speech or his?
That is the case, yes. And still, it changes nothing. He is still suggesting that if Christians go out and vote this year, they won’t have to ever again because, and these are his words, “it’ll be fixed.”
There is no context in which this isn’t antidemocratic.
Trump is an absolute POS, but if you look at the full speech, this seems to be what the actual speech was about. Getting them to vote just this one time.
But he’s running for president and words matter. Good for dems to press him on that
Just a reminder when you see bad faith shit like this, report and block.
What was the context?
Is ‘Harris for President’ directly connected to her? Or is it just an independent group?
It’s her campaign team.
Good to know!
Where was this posted? I want to be able to open the blue links! I just searched for it and found nothing. There’s nothing in the official Whitehouse.gov Briefing Room page. There’s nothing on Twitter from her official account (and shame on you for making me go to that shithole to look!)
I had the same question. Apparently it was an email newsletter sent via the campaign website, “take action” section.
Links in order
Previously said https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-bloodbath-loses-election-2024-rcna143746
Termination https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/03/politics/trump-constitution-truth-social/index.html
A lot of people like https://time.com/6972022/donald-trump-transcript-2024-election/
Dictator day one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX0iAmz9iLM
Watch https://x.com/Acyn/status/1817007890496102490
Vowed to end democracy https://x.com/Acyn/status/1817007890496102490
Campaign material like this would not be on Whitehouse.gov
I’ll tell you all a secret:
Win this for us all and we can do almost the same thing. In four years we could make voting easier. We could collectively push to end gerrymandering and implement a fair and true foundation for a stronger and better system. If Trump and his cronies truly believe they can take down everything that has been built, I bet we can begin building a better tomorrow through the action of each of us as individuals, working together towards a more positive future.
Let’s pay to deliver our future and not get robbed to repeat the past.
Yeah, but don’t stop at Trump. Get the fuckers out of the House/Senate too. Vote against Trump-lite mayors, , councils, and civil positions. This doesn’t mean always vote D, but stop letting insane candidates win via voter apathy, whatever the riding.
Where you can, make a difference yourself. Run for HOA, school board, etc yourselves and get the power-tripping fucktards out.
I bet we can begin building a better tomorrow through the action of each of us as individuals
I’ll bet we can do it by working together as groups.
…working together towards a more positive future.
See? Teamwork!
No OP, but yes, volunteer and get involved too!
Here’s one site to find volunteer opportunities around you (for campaign work and also things like climate action there)
It’s weird that I knew all this but it’s way more chilling to have Harris’ campaign tell us.
It’s because you’ve gotten used to the Democrats running around with your fingers in the ears pretending that none of it’s happening. The only time they seem to act on anything is when it’s literally too late to do anything useful anymore.
They’ve realized that ignoring the face-eating-leopard doesn’t work. Neither does giving it pets and the occasional soy-face.
No. To me it’s because no other campaign going against Trump acknowledged any of trumps treasonous rhetoric and acted like it was just some silly goof they were going against. For 8 years they let this man lie and fire up a base and make every problem the American is facing the lefts fault. The news media ate it and doubled down. Now half of the Republicans thinks democrats are children eating demons and that they are the enemy destroying America. It didn’t help that Biden’s campaign was “I’m not the other guy” without bringing any substantive relief. Harris coming with receipts and bringing up the straight up treason from Trump’s campaign is what needed to be happening day 1. Kamala’s policy is going to be important, but right now the biggest danger to America’s future isn’t student debt relief or universal Healthcare. It’s fascism. And we’re there at fascism. The nazi party isn’t going away. Burn it down, bring up how it does not belong in America, pacify the people by giving them substance to live and not be forced to raise a family in debt from grocery shopping.
Yea, the more shit Trump says like this, the more money I send to Kamala’s campaign.
Hate to be picky but that isn’t a Harris statement, it’s a statement by an official of her campaign. Not that that she (and I) wouldn’t agree
I’m sure Republicans are all going on about how he’s “just joking”. Sure, that obviously was a joke but it’s not like conservatives don’t want exactly this – they always hide behind “it was just a joke maaaannn” when the heinous shit they say causes a negative reaction
“He’s just joking”
Uhhh, Maybe we shouldn’t have a joker as president?? Maybe vagueness is bad???
Unfunny Donald
Their interpretation is that he was trying to motivate a bunch of old Christians to come out and vote for him so he can fix all the problems with America, and then they can go back to not voting because it’ll all be fixed.
Thanks for sharing this interpretation. Assuming for a moment that was his actual intent in saying that (I watched the clip several times and I simply could not decipher his actual intent), I would suggest that it should still be essentially campaign-ending to say something so closely resembling a call for the end of elections once you are elected. People should be so repulsed by the idea that it makes all candidates feel obliged to speak carefully and clearly enough to avoid even the insinuation of saying such things.
People are always trying to make excuses for Sex Offender Trump and they are always wrong. He actual intent is (1) to appeal to the neofascist movement and (2) to force you to pay attention to him like an abusive spouse. If elected Sex Offender Trump will say shit like that every single day to make you pay attention to him and it will continually escalate throughout his 4 years to try to condition people to let him stay in power.
Ah right, that does sort of make sense
Christians voting for Trump…sigh.
Look, I’m atheist. But…if you’re claiming to be Christian and voting for Trump, what exactly are you worshiping?
Bigotry.
Moloch
It wasn’t a joke, which we know because they doubled down after failing the 2020 electiom coup.
Yes, they hide behind joking when they say heinous shit like mocking the military or the disabled. They also hide behind it when when they are open about wanting a dictatorship.
Yes this is exactly what I meant. It was said in a manner that they can just claim it was a joke, even when it’s clearly not
“it’s just a joke man… unless you’re cool with it. In which case yeah we’re totally serious”
Kinda like joking about having a threesome with your significant other.
“I’m just Kiddin’ like Jason… unless you gon’ do it.”
-Cornell Haynes, Jr. (2002)Yup, “haha only joking. Unless…?”
It doesn’t help that Trump’s speeches are full of semi-coherent rambling and tangential sentence fragments, and that his entire style has always been to speak entirely in ridiculous hyperbole. It makes it easier for people to interpret statements in whatever way best fits their point of view, because you just get used to filling in the context and reducing his absurd claims down to a vague generality.
I’m sure Trump defenders will argue that he was saying “you won’t have to vote” only meant that the next election won’t have such high stakes because Trump will fix America’s problems and yada yada yada.
I’m sure Trump defenders will argue that he was saying “you won’t have to vote” only meant that the next election won’t have such high stakes because Trump will fix America’s problems and yada yada yada.
I despise the guy but I’m not sure how to say this without sounding like I support him…I honestly think this IS what I think he meant. The dude can’t put together coherent sentences. Words just kind of fall out of his mouth.
With that said, eliminating elections is definitely what his puppet masters want so it’s kind of a moot point. This is their long game and Trump is just a piece of the puzzle.
He wanted to be a “day-one dictator.” I think you may be a bit too charitable here.
Maybe. He is not a smart man.
I think this is dangerous. He may not be articulate, he may not be good at math, but the man is smart when it comes to working a crowd. He has done enough to become president once and I don’t think a stupid man would fumble his way there.
He’s smart, even if I hate to admit it. To pretend he isn’t means we aren’t taking him as seriously as we should.
I honestly think this IS what I think he meant.
Never get inside a conservative’s mind if you come out with a loser defeatism attitude. He might try to claim that as his fall back cover story when a journalist presses him on it, but it’s not what he meant at all. The most generous interpretation is “I don’t care who wins after me because I just want to win to stay out of jail”. The most likely interpretation is "Pay attention to me. Pay attention to me. Pay attention to me. " If he wins he will be saying shit like that every single day for 4 years like an abusive spouse just for the attention. But he absolutely will try to end democratic elections if he think he can get away with it.
Tom Cotton already said “he’s joking”
You can set your watch to this shit
Refute anyone that says that “he’s joking.” He’s not.
Fuck the republican traitor filth. We must hold the traitors to account.
thank you harris and dems. this is much better than the “he’s weird” approach. ratchet up the pressure on the fascism aspect, all the way up, and keep it there
There’s a multi-pronged approach here now.
I am so glad Biden stepped down and Harris is actually running the campaign the Dems should have been running since 2016.
I think Biden was the best person to run in 2020.
His prior experience with the office + familiarity with world leaders is what allowed him to actually work from day one and also get NATO back together.
Remember that trump didn’t hand the power peacefully, was blocking intelligence reports and our relationship with our allies was in the shitter.
Putin started to preparing to invade Ukraine in April 2021 (or at least that’s when or intelligence noticed it), putin was certain that Biden won’t be able to reunite West on time.
All other 2020 candidates would need some time ramp up as they did not have the same experience.
Biden was a good guy to have on cleanup duty. I think one of the main reasons why the Obama presidency was such a disappointment is that he had to handle cleanup duty at the same time as he was trying to push things forward.
I am talking about Dems as a whole and the campaigns they should have run, not which candidates were running.
Why not both? “Weird” gets politically disengaged people to notice, then follow up with how a Trump or Republican facist presidency would be dangerous.
good point. they have a lot of people of all ages who need to be addressed in their own language
Trump is not bussin, no cap
It also doesn’t get as pilloried as Hillary’s “deplorables”, even if she was right about that.
Hilary’s pillory would make a good title for a book about the 2016 election.
Also, she could open up a bedding store, call it “Hillary’s Pillowery” and BOOM shot across the bow to Mike Lindell and the RNC funding apparatus!
He’s still hella weird though…
The “He’s weird” is the equivalent of “Doesn’t she look tired” in Doctor Who, when the Doctor decides to end a bad politician’s career. That sentence, as it starts spreading, destroys her career.
This is what they aim for, and it’s meant for MAGAs, to crack them open.
Additionally, I will be voting Kamela, however I will continue to remind everyone that we don’t actually vote for president. There’s no need to advertise anything to us. We will all pretend voting for president as we are expected to.
I suggest that the campaigns find and focus on electors…you know, the actual real people who choose who our president and leader of the free world will be. They, out of their own freewill, and not due to our suggestive votes, will choose whoever paid them more. So purchase your presidential seat wisely!
As for the rest of us, I really do hope Kamela wins! I know my vote is 1000% completely just a suggestion for some asshole to vote Kamela. But I hope she wins. I also hope the Republican party keeps Trump around for a few more elections just to watch him grow…chi chi chi Chia! If he makes it to two more election years l’d be impressed and probably will feel sad for whoever has to push that sack of shit around on a wheelchair in the next few years.
Where did you find this statement OP?
This is exactly the energy I want! Take him to task!
VOTE!
Let’s go Kamala
