Get your guns, beans, and gasoline. Vote and then pray you won’t have to dip into those reserves, but steel yourselves for when you must. Good luck.
That sounds like the start of a country song about prepping
Get your guns, beans, and gasoline
But pray that you don’t need 'em
Pray and vote, vote and pray
And hope enough to feed 'em
If you really believe this will end the country, then see if you can do what didn’t happen then.
I doubt they thought or think about the welfare of the country.
Fuck USA, split yourself already to something more democratic and stable.
This came out so perfect part of me wonders if there is a god and I am some poor sinner getting punished.
Like, fuck man. This assassin missed and hit all of us. This is everything they want and you can pick out a number of other photos a lot like it that where incredible. These last two months basically lined up perfectly for Trump.
It arguably could have been worse if they’d killed him. Opening space for someone just as vile but actually intelligent, who could easily just roll through to president on the back of “Saint Trumpf the Martyr”…
After hearing the fireworks going off in my Maga-heavy area last night, I’m really not sure that the gunman missing was the better outcome. Trump has a special following in the republican party that gathers followers from those outside the party that wouldn’t ordinarily vote.
Yeah, one of the redeeming qualities of Trump is that he’s incredibly stupid, and refuses to let advisors correct him. Makes him super ineffective. They had control of white house and both chambers and they did just limited damage.
As someone outside of the US, I would say that the fallout to other countries is substantial. Not due to policies, but rather rhetoric.
Where I live, neo-nazis used to hide-- but now all the bigots, emboldened by Trump, are organizing. The right-wing opposition party leader walks among them and isn’t immediately shunned/removed. This is echoed around the globe.
It’s hard to say if Trump is the cause or the effect of that sentiment…
Both. Real life is complicated.
I do concur. I am astounded at the incompetence of the ones pulling the strings of the Republican party. Sure they got some Supreme Court justices in place, but man, they really, really messed up in 2020 letting the Democrats gain control of the Whitehouse. All they had to do was strong arm Trump into making the COVID stuff a patriotic war against an invisible virus, and he would have sweeped the election. Nope they shortsightedly let him retard it up, thinking it would kill more people in cities, ie Democratic voters. Lulz
He could have even taken credit for the vaccine and call it the Maga vaccine or something, but no, it’s better to promote horse paste. Alas.
That depends on if the person in question is has the same sort of charisma.
Who? Who would be capable of gathering the trump support and getting enough votes? Part of the right wing powerful 1 guy thingy is this: 1 guy. Take the guy away, and you have no idea what would happen and if someone else would manage to keep the gathered power going and maybe gather even more. Would be very different if trump were president when it happened, then the power is formalised and the takeover by another supervillain easier, but during campaign that would be quite the feat and I’m really wondering who would have been capable of it.
I agree with your take. The power vacuum would be incredible. In my country, I’ve seen a political party completely collapse from infighting after its charismatic leader was assassinated.
The problem with this line of thinking is that the GOP doesn’t have anyone else. They’re a cult of personality for Trump and only Trump. We saw all the alternatives get paraded around in the GOP “primary,” none of them are anywhere close to taking the reins. There’s a very good chance that without Trump, the cult begins to fall apart.
Naw they’d start eating each other for the chance to be the nominee
This came out so perfect part of me wonders if there is a god and
I am some poor sinner getting punishedhe is an evil, petty, piece of shit.Seriously, go read the Old Testament.
“This assassin missed and hit all of us.”
This is such an elegant and iconic line. History will view that as the truth.
They didn’t miss. The US government will think twice about appointing a president half of the country wants dead. Power fear chaos and unrest among people, they want to have everything in control under their eye.
Presidents aren’t appointed by the US Government.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change
They are.
The government spend billions on propaganda and all the most popular media are private owned. They are able to spin the narrative and manipulate public opinion as much as they want.
George Dubya Bush and Trump were.
Wtf are you talking about
Trump is about to implement Project 2025, which will make the rich people in the USA so goddamn wealthy it will make your head spin. The middle class will be gone and all that money transferred up. Why would they not want Trump?
Trump is about to implement Project 2025, which will make the rich people in the USA so goddamn wealthy it will make your head spin.
Billionares are so rich already that trying to visualize their wealth will indeed make your head spin. The middle class died decades ago. They may not want Trump because the majority of people already live in poverty and they are just waiting to turn into an angry mob
I can’t deny it is a good photo. Nice work, Leni Riefenstahl.
Are there people out there that were actually on the fence about Trump? Seems like the only thing that was going to determine this race is if liberal voters would go to the polls or not. Trump voters seemed to already be fully decided.
I don’t see how this event could change things for Trump.
Man, people on lemmy need to look outside of their own bubbles a little more. There’s more than just those in my camp and those against my camp.
There are uninformed voters who genuinely do not pay as much attention to politics as those of us on this platform do. Uninformed voters exist and they are influenced by the big headlines like this.
This is why other factors regarding a candidate such as whether or not they are likeable matter. It’s not for me. It’s not for you or any other hardline party entrenched voter. It’s for them, the ones who barely pay attention.
What I am wondering is among that uninformed voter base are there people who think “hmm, maybe I won’t vote for the guy that somebody just tried to kill.”
The scariest thing is not that there are people who would vote for trump, but the amount of people that can’t imagine why someone would vote or think different than them. The level of “same as me” bias is really scary.
I get that, but people are acting like this is a guaranteed win for Trump just because he was shot at and can claim that he’s a martyr. I just don’t think there’s enough undecided voters that will swing the election for Trump this easily.
It might be more about energising the base to turn out rather than swaying the undecided voters at this point.
It might not even be about voting anymore at this point. Their god-king was almost assassinated. This will 100% mobilize certain people to do certain things.
Shit maybe they postpone the election. I don’t even know if that would be a good thing or bad thing at this point.
The is going to be their Reichstag moment.
Trump can’t postpone the election. He’s not president.
I didn’t say Trump would postpone the election, did I?
A lot can happen between now and November. Given how things have been going, lots of things we have no way of predicting at this point. If political violence escalates far enough, I could see there being some kind of State of Emergency declared or some shit.
An election has never been postponed and never will be for the snowflakes
Even still, Trump already had the most energized base there is. Like taking a flamethrower to an active volcano eruption.
He’s also disillusioned a lot of who should be his base by being who he is.
Ironic but here in 2024 we’re going to be hoping for the
silent majorityon the right to stay home.For every energised Trump supporter you see, there’s 1000 more sitting at home nodding along to their Fox broadcast. Same for any political party… The vast vast vast majority of us aren’t motivated enough to leave our homes for politics outside of election day.
No, it’s not the same for any political party. There is a huge and infamous bias. Conservative voters VOTE. There is a 30% base that always votes, and always votes conservative. That makes up MOST conservative voters, the difference is mainly swing voters.
This is why voter turnout so so important for progressive candidates, and why voter disenfranchisement and generally muddying the waters is such an effective strategy for conservatives. Nothing that happens ever affects their base, but if the rest of the voters don’t turn out, then conservatives win. When there are large turnouts, conservatives get CRUSHED every time.
It’s not the same for any political party.
it’s not (just) about convincing people to vote for Trump.
it’s about convincing people to actually vote.
if voting were compulsory, then no, it wouldn’t really matter. But it isn’t. So people who would vote for Trump, but wouldn’t bother to leave the house might be bothered to leave and vote for the convicted criminal rapist now.
This is the nugget of truth in this sea of tinfoil hats. This won’t change anyone’s decision, because it’s not intellectual. It will convince people to go out and vote, because notlw they’ll feel they have to. After all, is it such a big ask to go out and vote for your god-king, after he literally took a bullet for you?
I see how this could have helped his campaign. And it sucks.
“Proof of violent left” may sway some voters. Ofc they won’t care that the shooter was a Republican and they won’t know about Project 2025.
It’s not that they don’t know about Project 2025, they just don’t care about it. I’ve seen so-called “centrists” straight-up claiming that Project 2025 isn’t real just because Trump disavowed it… ignoring the fact that he had to since it was actually hurting his poll numbers. (The people who wrote P2025 are core members of Trump’s campaign staff. How naive do you have to be to see that and still think a politician wouldn’t lie?)
I’ve had people say Project 2025 “Is just an exaggeration”, because the “Legislative and Judicial branches won’t allow it”
Ignoring that the Supreme Court literally does whatever Trump wants…
Fucking hell, seriously… pardon the invocation of Godwin’s Law, but people used the same “Legislative and Judicial branches won’t allow it” excuse to claim that Hitler winning the elections in Germany wouldn’t be that bad and we all know how it ended up.
The amount of people burying their heads in the sand regarding Project 2025 is infuriatingly high and I hate it.
People accusing me of fear mongering when I point to a blatantly obvious problem… what else is new sigh
Oh, no no, I wasn’t accusing you of fearmongering, I was actually agreeing with you! Sorry for coming off the wrong way, I didn’t mean my post to come off as accusatory. :/
Oh no, I’m just letting you know what happens when I tell people about 25
Was any information released on the shooter?
Yes. A huge amount.
Crooks’ political leanings were not immediately clear. Records show Crooks was registered as a Republican voter in Pennsylvania, but federal campaign finance reports also show he gave $15 to a progressive political action committee on Jan. 20, 2021, the day President Joe Biden was sworn into office.
He was also wearing a “Demolition Ranch” t-shirt … which take from that what you will.
When you have an FPTP voting system, many people don’t vote for, they vote against. Plenty will see Biden calling Zelensky a Putin, then this and… Good luck, Americans!
Hmm still not convinced. Got anything else?
People voting against their own interests is going to be the end of this country. People need to get off their asses, think about themselves for once and recognize that Trump wants to take away freedoms and give nothing back.
40% of the country want a dictator and will move mountains to get one. That means the other 60% best interest is already set in stone, without even looking at policies or the candidate. Just vote Democrat and what happened yesterday will not matter in the slightest.
Trump after a shooting in Iowa that left one sixth-grader dead and six other staffers and students injured,
“So surprising to see it here. But, we have to get over it. We have to move forward…”
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how were the secret service not on the roofs or monitoring the roofs from aerial POV? Most obvious spot for a sniper.
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the dude interviewed by British journalist right after that says him and group saw man with gun climbing roof, told cops and secret service and neither did anything
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his first and only focus was his shoes?
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a man who is a documented coward and narcissist pushed against secret service to face cameras and have his head exposed for a long period of time?
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secret service ignores protocol to cover and remove him and let’s him vamp and pose
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straight lines of blood on his face, history with pro wrestling
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yes, the supposed gunman was killed, but on what day are there not thousands of trump cultists lined up and ready to die if someone tells them they are on a secret mission to help daddy?
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yes, some in crowd may have been injured, but when has trump shown any hesitation to have pale injured or killed for his personal benefit (January 6th, church protests, etc).
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his secret service were proven corrupt and involved in cover up measures for trump before (e.g. Deliberately erasing text messages relevant to January 6th)
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this all happens as project 2025 narrative was taking form hold, leaked video/audio by the day and days before the RNC.
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watch the footage, down the stairs, secret service is concerned with grabbing and carrying his special red hat? How the fuck would that ever be a concern in an actual emergency?
This is wild speculation and almost certainly not true. You do nothing but discredit leftists by creating conspiracies.
Amen
“history with pro wrestling” 😂
This is the dumbest shit and we need to fucking grow up a bit. These “questions” are asinine and not that hard to explain.
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Not denying the incident was reported, but there’s a heavy insinuation here that this was set up or manufactured. If so… They needed an entire Secret Service detail, local event police and everyone standing by to be in on it. A couple hundred people are going to be involved and no one leaks it?
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“Supposed” gunman. I like how you pivot from “this is probably set up” to “ok even if it was real Trump is capable of worse”
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Again, the insinuation of an inside job here. We’re going to involve a hundred or more people and no one thought it would be a problem to kill a bystander? Or the gunman was so good he killed a specific plant? And they had a 100% success rate… No one heard the plan and thought “oh this is a bad idea” and spoke out about it?
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Big difference between deleting text messages and MURDERING AN AMERICAN to further a political agenda.
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Yes. Things happen all the time. Trump people are saying this is to distract from Biden being inept. There’s always a convenient time.
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Yes you dumbshit he was concerned about his hat because they already had the all clear. The shooter got taken out in seconds. They wouldn’t have moved Trump. And they all were saying it was all clear. Also have you ever seen people in an absolute panic? Not the most rational state. Same thing with his shoes. That’s ALSO why he took the photo op. They all dove on top of him. They figured out the shooter’s location and took him down before Trump even got up.
There’s pictures of the fucking bullet in flight. So either that was ALSO manufactured (a member of the press willingly heard the plan ahead of time and doctored a photo or they actually shot a bullet inches away from Trumps head AND captured it). But no let’s just get Trump, a bumbly ass fuck to orchestrate this perfectly. I’m sure he had it a planned to go down, and everyone covered him and he pulled out a razor blade, cut his ear, and put it away, all perfectly executed and no one caught anything on camera from any of the dozens of angles.
This shit is so fucking stupid and I’m so sick of hearing about it. These points all rely on the most ass backwards way of thinking where dozens of people are in on this conspiracy and relies on all of them bring cool with killing someone to make it good for Trump.
Get this shit outta here. This doesn’t deserve the pixels on the screen used to illuminate this nonsense. Be a fucking grown up. We’re going to have to figure out a real way to beat Trump, not pretend this was some false flag bullshit. Accept reality. Be a goddamn adult.
I’m not even saying you’re wrong for questioning, but I am saying you are wrong because the sheer volume of things that would need to occur for this theory to be even remotely possible is so ridiculous, I would consider aliens an equally plausible situation.
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Or just go out in November, and vote for Biden.
Yep there’s a lot of dramatic panic, and it needs to be translated into action not apathy.
Assassination attempts don’t translate to election wins.
Stick to the plan, GET OUT AND VOTE!
My memory tells me that they usually do translate into wins. Do you have any stats?
Teddy Roosevelt would like to have a word with you.
I’m afraid I wasn’t alive when that happen. Did he lose that election? And is that the mist recent example?
Bud, use Google and figure it out. I don’t agree with these guys you’re arguing with, but Jesus Christ, just use the internet.
Not even arguing, just asking. Not interested enough to really Google it.
Let me know how that works for you.
Worked great last election! Happy to see the pedophile lose again.
Biden? Why not someone else? I don’t like either of them but holy shit please not Biden again…
Because I don’t want trump to win and that’s the only option… are you for real right now is this a serious question?
You’re making it the only option… like seriously, Biden is not good (a lot of democrats are embarrassed and admitting this too) and if we don’t pick someone else, Trump is 100% going to win this year. You guys need to understand, that debate was god awful for Biden, and now with Trump being nearly assassinated people are going to see him as some sort of martyr. For crying out loud, pick someone else!
You realize I don’t have the power to do shit by myself. You are a moron man, I’m not the one calling the shots.
Bro, you can vote for someone else… what do you mean you don’t have power to do shit yourself? Encourage others to do the same. Have fun watching Trump win the election, I guess.
Don’t listen to this idiot
“Don’t listen to this idiot”
Nah, just vote for someone other than Trump. If you’re in a swing state, sure. But if you’re in a state that is extremely likely to vote one way or another (as most are), vote your conscience.
I’m in a deep red state where Biden has almost no chance, so I’m voting for Chase Oliver. He has the widest possible reach of the firmly anti-war candidates we have.
Voting for anyone other than Biden is dumb beyond belief if you want trump to lose.
Why does trump have secret service if he is not the president? Sorry dumb canadian moment
US presidents get SS protections for life after their term is over
I understand that the abbreviation is understood different in the US, but SS is understood as the Schutzstaffel founded as a paramilitary arm of Hitlers NSDAP later to become among the worst criminals in WWII and the Holocaust.
We’ll all understand it as schutzstaffel soon enough, I guess
Well, if Trump wins he’ll eventually get original SS to cover his ass…
or Neo-SS :-p
Not only do all former presidents get a detail, all frontrunners with a credible shot at winning get secret service protection. I’m not sure what the exact requirements for that are, but Trump would almost certainly meet them.
When the nomination becomes official, they get a secret service detail.
All former presidents get secret service until they die.
Thx
The Secret Service protects not just the president, but their family, major runners for the race, and their families. Due to the assassination of Robert Kennedy in 1968, the Secret Service was made to protect all major runners for the presidency, as his assassination could have been stopped if he had more protection than the event’s guards.
That’s actually really cool, surprised I didn’t know this
I reckon this will come to Canada soon too. Trudeau used to go to metro stations and just say good morning to people on their way to work after he won first term. He doesn’t do this anymore for obvious reasons
It’s over. It was definitely a false flag op Are yall ready for a 100 year reign of terror from the trump family. Here comes the monarchy. I here Mexico is nice this time of year. Buckle up cause project 25 is incoming in 3, 2, boom
Proof again that the press is just there to stir the shit and get views, who cares what happens to the country.
The big press like CNN and Fox are all for Trump. He generated so many clicks for them, massive amount of income from advertisers. With Biden the government got back to doing what it does and is boring.
Why do you think CNN allowed Trump to lie constantly during that debate? It’s a fucking joke.
You mock the ever living shit out of the photo. Fascists love to look strong and mocking the photo dispels the myth of appearing strong.
*Edit: As Robert Evans said “blood is cool, milkshakes aren’t” when talking about Richard Spencer getting humiliated with getting a milk shake thrown at him.
I like presidents who haven’t been shot.
My opinion has not changed at all
Yeah this occupied like 5 minutes of my family’s time last night. Our daughter heard about it first. She ran upstairs and told my wife about the same time I saw a news article pop up. My wife and I just kind of shrugged and went about our business.
I’m just surprised it took this long for someone to give it a go. These violent delights have violent ends.
Water balloons filled with Miracle Whip?
Make sure those water balloons have been sitting in the sun a bit. Gotta make sure that they had a chance to develop a nice smell. Bonus points, if you can get your target to puke everywhere.
Robert Evans is so great.
Photographers generally want people to see their photos. So no, they were not thinking about the second part.
Pro here and ya I would want the exposure of this photo regardless of its context. Selfish maybe. But I could retire off this single photo
why would it be “selfish”?
war photography too is there and there were always discussions about its function.
As a photographer, you may hate trump and everything he represents, you’re responsible for documenting what’s happening there and then as well as you can.
yes, frame introduces interpretation and photography is never neutral but it’s fidelity to light is unquestionable. That relationship with “reality” must be what distinguishes a photographer from somebody holding their phone unwittingly in front of their face.
everybody can write, but then there are writers.
This is gonna make him a fucking martyr.
I get what you mean but Martyrs defining factor is that they’re dead.
The republicans aren’t big on reals, having a living martyr will suit their narrative just fine.
it’s not a conversation about “reals”, he’s making a comment about the English language and how that word means something else. He’s their living prophet or saint. That’s word to use in its place. No-one is questioning their narrative.
