Mine is they shouldn’t have made the sequel series without George as a consultant.
I think Acolyte would have been a good show if they had ditched the kung fu gimmick and concentrated more on the writing. I think the overall story was a good idea that got buried under a mountain of marketing crap.
It should have stopped after the OT.
I was so invested in the OT… and no more movies came, so I accepted there wouldn’t be more movies.
As such when they came out and were shitty, I didn’t mind as much.
That’s made it easier for me to dip in and enjoy some of the new content. I’m not expecting it to be good, and can be surprised when it is.
Yeah, but it’s kind of like having a park where you used to play as a kid, but then people start dumping garbage there, and trashing the playground, and leaving cigarette-butts and needles in the grass. Maybe you can find a little corner where you can remember how it used to be, but then you see the rest of it.
One was enough
Mine is they shouldn’t have made the sequel series without
George as a consultanta planMy hot take on the sequels is that the first one was a decent start, and they screwed up the whole plot from there. It had some issues mainly in dropping subplots, probably because what was intended to be followed up wasn’t thanks to different plots and directors.
And plan = “Thrawn Trilogy”.
Or Rogue Squadron. Or hell, basically anything from the extended lore that isn’t about the Vong or the corellia trilogy.
They couldn’t, they already established that Space Whales hard counter Thrawn.
Beat me to it.
Honestly, saw the first one, and that was enough to not see the rest.
It’s the stereotypical “tell the rest of the story” lame crap today.
It really did seem like they were just making stuff up as they went 😂
That’s not a hot take at all.
The prequels should have started with the Clone Wars, covering more of Anakin and Obi-Wan’s relationship, with an occasional flashback to the earlier Anakin to fill in his past. Being a fan from the early years, I didn’t like the prequels that much initially, but the story grew on me after watching them a few more times later along with fan commentary over the years. What I do still think they suffer from is making Anakin’s fall too sudden, and if we got a better sense of how much he and Obi-Wan were brothers in spirit, the eventual fall would mean more. There would also be more room to develop the friction he observes with the Jedi Council, maybe even take things to a new level in why they don’t let him progress. I guess I basically see TPM as a wasted first part to better establish his character.
Watching the animated Clone Wars series makes the gap between 2 and 3 more palatable. You see Anakin grow in the force, but also see the darkness simmering. It also shows the cracks in the Jedi order and lays the groundwork for doubt in their unimpeachable wisdom.
Like, if you just watch the movies, Yoda is basically Muppet Jesus. Anakin seems like a petulant child refusing to eat his vegetables and jumps right to murdering children. If you watch the series, it colors in all the shades of gray.
I wonder why r2d2 doesn’t simply close the stargates with his avatar powers (earth, wind, fire). 🤔
No air?!
Because that would violate the prime directive.
The Star Wars universe is not interesting enough for all the TV show and movies being made. George Lucas is not Tolkien and the world building was fine enough for the original trilogy, but it’s simply too boring for more content. Tolkiens work gets more interesting as you learn more about the details. Star Wars is the opposite. The more information you get the less interesting it is.
Also the Jedis are just cops/soldiers. They are not inherently good.
I would say the 60 year period that all the movies occupy are not interesting enough for more content. Similarly to LOTR there are plenty of other time periods in which good content could be made but that makes it harder for Disney to cash in on familiar characters so they don’t pursue those options.
That’s more or less my take too. The world of the Star Wars universe feels huge and expansive, but in reality by the end of the original trilogy they had basically told all the interesting stories that were to be had about it. And even then, they were starting to run out of material for Return of the Jedi. They tried with the prequels, but as you say it mostly fell flat and ended up boring. The sequels started off more or less rehashing the original trilogy so they were at least entertaining, but that wasn’t enough for three movies and it turned into an absolute mess by the end.
It’s boring and it sucks
I agree it’s now boring and sucks.
That’s not a hot take. Millions will agree with you. Especially Star Wars fans.
The Last Jedi, especially if you don’t take into account The Rise of Skywalker’s sloppy reaction to it, is the best Star Wars movie since ROTJ, and maybe since Empire.
The Last Jedi is kind of like an AI hallucination: any given finger is very realistically rendered, but put together the hand doesn’t make sense.
Yes…
…except you clearly forgot about Rogue One.
I did not, though admittedly there’s a world where Rian Johnson takes pointers from some of R1’s action sequences and TLJ is even more clearly the best SW movie of the last thirty years.
Oh thanks for reminding me of my hot take: Rogue One is a thoroughly mediocre and boring movie that fails to give any of its characters personality or development. The only reason it has any acclaim is that it’s a “dark” plot in an otherwise saccharine franchise, and if the Star Wars set dressing was removed the whole movie would fall over like a potemkin village.
I do think it’s better than several of the main movies, but that’s not saying much.
It’s mediocre fantasy with star destroyers instead of dragons. Also muppets. So. Many. Muppets.
The first 2 prequels made me realize the only Star Wars movie I really loved was Empire. New Hope and Jedi (apart from the advanced in film making they pioneered) were good, not great.
I still haven’t seen episodes 3, 8, or 9 and I feel no desire to ever do so.
You want a HOT take on Star Wars?
I love it. All of it. Games, movies, shows. All. Of. It. Sure, I’ve got some critiques, but even the prequels/sequels are a thrill ride. I love Star Wars and I don’t care about some dork on the internet’s opinion on it.
A true hot take, one that I don’t share but take my upvote for your candor
This is the only hot take in this whole thread lol
My lukewarm take is that Star Wars has varied so greatly in quality from product-to-product, that any take that categorizes some of it as bad and some of it as good is a lukewarm, standard take.
Yes, most of these are standard takes.
Ah, the negotiator!
It has some interesting parts, but I prefer hard sci-fi over science fantasy. Just my preference.
Episode 8 is my favourite of the sequels, 7 was just boring 9 was, well it exists. The Prequels are not as bad as the many think.
Episode 5 is my favourite over all, but I don’t think that’s an hot take.
I loved A New Hope and thought The Empire Strikes Back was brilliant. I never recovered from the Muppets in the opening act of Return of the Jedi. None of the movies since then have gotten as high on the scale as “good”. The series have been a mixed bag, but none of them have had the grandeur of the first two movies.
The EU was the only good thing about it, the movies were always kinda mediocre.
The EU books, games, and comics before the prequel movies was peak Star wars. Thrawn trilogy, young Jedi series, rogue squadron series, bounty hunter short stories, x wing and tie fighter games, old Republic games and comics, dark forces, etc.
