• gmtom@lemmy.world
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    17 days ago

    Why don’t they just move the infrastructure away from the volcano? Are they stupid?

  • TIN@feddit.ukEnglish
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    17 days ago

    I like the way there’s a police car there, in case people were thinking they might just go for it anyway

  • mightyfoolish@lemmy.world
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    17 days ago

    Picture reminds me of East Cleveland (not to be confused with the east side of Cleveland; “East Cleveland” is it’s own city. The roads are this bad but I’m sure anyone who could fix the roads are too scared to go there…

    Also looks like Detroit after some rain. The right lanes literally flood.

    Midwest needs a redesign.

    • Hikermick@lemmy.world
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      16 days ago

      They’re not scared, the city simply doesn’t have the money. I’ve seen the fire department filling potholes. Euclid ave has been fixed up. Terrace has been blocked off, I used to see cars driving on the sidewalk to avoid the pot holes

      • mightyfoolish@lemmy.world
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        16 days ago

        I’m just poking fun of the reputation it has. I hear crazy rumors about East Cleveland from “mayor stole all the funds” and it’s normal to find human remains in your yard. Mind you, I also live in the urban Midwest, it’s just East Cleveland seems next level bad.

        I have noticied South Euclid is getting nicer. NE Ohio has potential, it’s just so resource starved.

  • SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works
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    17 days ago

    To anyone acquantinced with Iceland: What kind of logistical issues does this actually provoke? What measures do you typically (or exceptionally) take to make sure that no location runs unsupplied for too long?

    • Monument@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
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      17 days ago

      I’ve been there on tour once, and I just looked at an online map to make sure I didn’t misremember. I also follow a guy on YouTube that talks about geology and has been focused on Iceland lately, so I think that makes me a complete expert.

      Joking aside, the road to Grindavik is sort of out of the way, but it is the connector road between the south coast and the airport, so it’s like a 45 minute diversion to get to the airport from the south coast (and vice versa). And like an hour+ diversion if you’re going from the south coast to the Blue Lagoon/the geothermal power/hot water plant that provides power and heat to the airport and (I think) most of Reykjavik.
      Unfortunately the power plant/Blue Lagoon is very close to the fissure, and it’s possible a future larger lava flow could damage them. (It is expected more fissures/flows will occur, but the location and size are unknown.) I’m sure both the civil engineering and tourism folks are working on spinning up alternative sites.

      Grindavik, for what it’s worth, keeps bouncing between being evacuated and residents griping so much they get let back in. The Icelandic government has an offer on the table to purchase people’s homes in the town, so they move out. I think the plan is probably to abandon the town, since it’s possible this eruptive period could last hundreds of years. (Or not! We have no idea, really, just past data and informed guesses.)

      • SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works
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        17 days ago

        I’ll have you know, I have pretty high standards to consider someone an expert.

        I’ve been there on tour once, and I just looked at an online map to make sure I didn’t misremember. I also follow a guy on YouTube that talks about geology and has been focused on Iceland lately, so I think that makes me a complete expert.

        Oh, no! You’re meeting all of them!

    • muix@lemmy.sdf.org
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      17 days ago

      Basically everyone gets evacuated from the affected area and are staying with friends and family in Reykjavík. Grindavík is a very small town compared to the rest of the world. The government has offered to buy properties from the ones who cannot return, since the erruptions have been going for a few years in that area and there’s no sign of stopping.

      To answer your question for the rescuers, researchers, and workers left in the area, once the eruption starts it’s quite easy to predict the flow. Luckily there are a few other roads without the risk of lava flow, mainly due to lava diverting barricades. In case of emergencies they use helicopters.

      Other parts in eruption risk zones would be similar, since it’s just not worth it for people to stay in those areas and most people can stay with family. And repairs to the road are usually pretty quick when the eruption dies down.

    • OhmsLawn@lemmy.world
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      17 days ago

      Not Icelandic, but I’ve been following the situation closely.

      This is an evolving issue. Grindavik, the town on the far side of this has been severely damaged by earthquakes and is currently surrounded by a berm that’s (mostly) holding the lava flow back. The Svartsengi power plant is likewise protected by a berm and has had the pipes supplying hot water to Reikiavik damaged and repaired.

      Geologist Sean Willsey has been providing outstanding coverage on the subject.

    • hairynipple@lemm.ee
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      17 days ago

      I’m not the kind of person you wanted a response from since I know absolutely nothing, but I would imagine being an island, boats play a big role in keeping supply lines running.

      • scutiger@lemmy.world
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        17 days ago

        The ring road around the country is about 1300km, so it’s clearly a pretty big hassle, but not a complete disaster, unless the entire area around the main intersection is blocked.

        • Dultas@lemmy.world
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          17 days ago

          I don’t think you have travel the whole ring road. But I believe both roads in and out areclosed.

  • suction@lemmy.world
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    16 days ago

    Looks like a challenge for Cybertruck owners, who would be gullible enough to think their “futuristic” truck probably could drive across that.

  • voldage@lemmy.world
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    16 days ago

    “When I was your age I had to walk to school through 5kms of lava, just to avoid fighting with bears again, it was actually faster if I ran” just kidding I know we don’t have money to raise children anymore

  • timmymac@lemmy.world
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    17 days ago

    I want to go to Iceland because I hear it’s awesome plus I like the added danger it might blow up at any moment.

    • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
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      16 days ago

      It’s also fun how massively expensive it is. And their currency makes it feel even more expensive. Want a loaf of bread that’ll be 23,000 krona.

      But it’s got hot spring and a surprisingly vibrant nightlife so it’s all worth it.

        • boonhet@lemm.ee
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          16 days ago

          If it is, I’m going to move to Iceland to grow wheat and bake and sell bread. This software engineering thing suddenly doesn’t seem all that lucrative.

      • recklessengagement@lemmy.world
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        16 days ago

        Wasn’t that expensive when I went last year, actually felt relatively affordable. Actually, all of Europe felt affordable compared to food prices in the US…

    • hperrin@lemmy.world
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      17 days ago

      I’m not even sure they can sell Cybertruck in Iceland. Most developed countries have pedestrian safety standards that the Cybertruck can’t pass.

          • Numenor@lemmy.world
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            17 days ago

            I checked and it’s true :

            1. Off-Road Driving: Damaging and Illegal Off-road driving is strictly prohibited in Iceland, and those caught engaging in the activity can face hefty fines of up to 100,000 ISK per person. Off-road driving can cause irreversible damage to Iceland’s fragile ecosystems, particularly the moss, which takes hundreds of years to grow. Iceland’s moss plays a vital role in preventing soil erosion and retaining water and humidity, making its preservation crucial. In 2018, a group of French tourists mistakenly believed off-road driving was allowed in Iceland, causing significant damage and getting stuck, leading to public outcry.
            1. F-Roads: A Legal and Exciting Alternative F-roads, or mountain roads, can only be accessed by 4x4 vehicles and are open for a limited period each year, typically from July to September. F-roads are often confused with off-road driving due to their unpaved, rugged appearance and rural settings, but they are legal to drive on. Some F-roads might require crossing rivers and navigating rough terrain, which is why only 4x4 vehicles are allowed on these roads. On maps, F-roads are marked with an “F” followed by a number, e.g., “F413”. Some F-roads may not be clearly labeled in person, so always check your route carefully.

            Source: https://www.northbound.is/blog/251/what-is-the-difference-between-f-roads-and-off-road-driving.

        • TachyonTele@lemm.ee
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          17 days ago

          We’re talking about the cybertruck, no one is going to successfully off road in one of those anyways.

      • ByteJunk@lemmy.world
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        17 days ago

        They cannot.

        EU safety rules specifically forbid sharp edges (kudos to the visionary who thought about including that one…).

        Additionally, it’s weight is absolutely ridiculous, to the point that you cannot drive it with a standard B licence (you need at least C1, which requires specific classes and written + driving exams).

        Not to mention, many streets simply cannot accommodate a car so large, and there’s zero parking space for such a monstrosity in most city centers…

        Edit: actually I’m not sure if Iceland included these specific EU rules, so maybe they can actually sell it there?..

        • uranibaba@lemmy.world
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          17 days ago

          EU safety rules specifically forbid sharp edges

          That would explain why old cars had a more blocky design while newer cars have a more rounded design (in addition to aerodynamics I assume).

        • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
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          16 days ago

          Edit: actually I’m not sure if Iceland included these specific EU rules, so maybe they can actually sell it there?..

          Unless the Icelandic government explicitly passes a law to override an EU mandate, then the EU mandate applies in Iceland. It’s a weird setup, as they are not actually in the EU so I’m unclear about why they follow EU mandates at all. I assume it makes trade easier.

          It’s hard to see why they would pass a law to override a safety consideration unless there was a grassroots movement to be able to drive cyber trucks.

          • Logi@lemmy.world
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            16 days ago

            so I’m unclear about why they follow EU mandates at all

            We’re in the EEA which at this point includes EU, Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein. We get to be part of the common market and have free movement of goods and people and whatnot. But it requires “harmonising” rules across the market so that you don’t get technical hurdles instead of straight up tariffs. And then we have no say in these harmonised rules because we’re not in the EU 🤷🏼‍♂️

        • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world
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          17 days ago

          The cybertruck (6653 lbs) weighs less than a Ford 150 lightning (6745lbs) and Rivian R1T (7148lbs)

          It’s not even worth looking up the Silverado or Hummer with their humongous batteries

          All EV full size trucks are very heavy due to the batteries right now.

          For the cybertruck, the stainless steel design actually allowed them to reduce weight by the steel being part of the structure, thus reducing or removing the need for things like side impact crash structures

              • englislanguage@lemmy.sdf.org
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                16 days ago

                Yes, its weight is absolutely ridiculous. The other hobbyist’s tanks you mentioned are too. Just because there is more of the same (minus razor sharp edges and rust), doesn’t mean it isn’t sh*t too.

                • ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world
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                  16 days ago

                  it’s weight is ridiculous, generally speaking.

                  it’s weight simultaneously ISN’T ridiculous for what it is. Context. For what it is, it is the least ridiculous of all those ridiculously heavy trucks.

                • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world
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                  16 days ago

                  I got this boat I gotta tow 150 miles, sure glad I can choose the better herpes, and definitely better than years ago when my only choice was cancer!

    • mightyfoolish@lemmy.world
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      17 days ago

      Saw my first cybertruck in person while on the highway today. It was pretty funny looking. Also, I doubt many vehicles were created to ride lava; let alone uneven terrain to this degree.

  • Etterra@lemmy.world
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    17 days ago

    My biggest question is, why haven’t they changed their turn name to Grimdark - I mean it’s right there - and will they do so now?