If you want extra difficulty, I can recommend you Valproic-acid. It’s essentially an ADHD worsener, except you’re not really allowed to talk about that due to some people showing toxic positivity to psychiatric medication, in this case it’s also an anti-seizure medication.
I wish I could get diagnosed
Why can’t you?
Psychiatrists in my area have long waiting lists, and most of them don’t even have a website where I can look up if they know anything about ADHD. It takes a lot of willpower for me to get over my anxiety and call even one of them, and naturally it never leads anywhere. It seems like all my mental health problems are working against me making this appointment, and the psychiatrists aren’t doing anything to help with the process.
Is there online tests or something similar to see if you are possibly on the spectrum as they say ?
You seems to know what you are talking about and I always feel like well yes of course that’s how life is.
Yes. Lookup raads-r autism test. It’s almost as good as a psychiatrist at diagnosing. If you score high there, chances are high a psychiatrist would as well.
It’s hard though. A key criteria (at least in the UK) how much it affects you day-to-day. My father probably has it and passed along a lot of guidance that I now recognise as coping mechanisms/symptom management strategies. Day to day I’ve got it in hand, it’s only when the big storms come that I struggle, and that doesn’t fit with the diagnostic approach.
Thank you!
Would you share some if those mechanisms please?
Me too. Wish my wife would understand, when I’m being productive and … crotchety, its basically never because she’s done anything wrong, and forcing me to calm down is going to leave us all disappointed.
I’m sorry for that :/
I literally made a custom shirt that says “Fueled by caffeine and spite”.
You got an Etsy? Lmao
Nicotine and generational trauma seems to work, too.
I’m pretty much in this camp.
I’ve tried some of the stimulant treatments, but they leave me feeling completely wrung out by the end of my shift. And being on that stuff for more than 12+ hours just seems like a recipe for heart disease.
doesnt work for shit without eating. people also are on way to high dosage. well, it does work, but it really takes a toll if you are not eating right.
What’s up with the hardhat and glasses on Mac here?
He’s an electrician
And is that related to adhd?
It’s a repurposed construction meme
Ohhhhhh ok. Thanks for that.
I’ve been on all kinds of medications from age 7 to 26.
Ritallin sped up my heart and I couldn’t keep up in gym class because I was constantly catching my breath.
Concerta/dexadrine took away my appetite. One bit every meal, then I was full. I was pathetically skinny and got called anorexic all the time.
Straterra made me tired and drousy all day, I was sexually frustrated because my dick would REFUSE to get hard, and then I would wake up at night, not being able to sleep.
I’m 31 and madication free for 6 years, and have learned to overcome my ADHD on my own. Never swallowing a other ADHD pill again, fuck that shit entirely.
How do you cope?
mountains of powerful cannabis and cheap coffee
Cope with what exactly?
Having to function in current society with ADHD I presume
I dono… I just always wanted to be normal, not rely on a drug that gives me undesirable side effects, and if I forget to take it, I have a terrible day.
I’m still trying to learn to fit in every day, and it’s hard. I still slip up, and have my days some times. It’s not going away either, but this is how I choose to do it
Answer: denial.
denial swimming in a sauce of selfneglect, selfabuse and alcoholism
I’m not sure I follow.
Nothing, just being silly
Eeeyyyy!! 🤙🏻
I’ve been on Adderall and Vyvanse for ADHD and binge eating disorder.
The Vyvanse helps a ton with the binges. My doc had suggested I try Concerta if I’m having a hard time finding Vyvanse this month. I was able to find Vyvanse but I had no idea appetite suppression could be so much in the Concerta. Probably way easier than finding/taking any of those fashionable diet injectables. And generic Vyvanse still gets on backorder…
Maybe I’ll bring up trying that next time.
Do it, if you have a problem with binge eating it could do you wonders. I’m the opposite, even off meds I’ve always had a hard time gaining weight no matter how much I eat. It’s probably the beetus that will get me with how much junk I munch on every time I use cannabis lol. I’m 6’2 170lbs
You dont need to gain weight
That’s a first
why do you need to gain weight??? what you describe is a good functioning metabolism. only thing you can do is eat more protein and train to put on muscle, you will not gain fat until you purpoesfully break your metabolism.
Idk, maybe all the “you’re too skinny” “you’re anorexic” “you need a .milkshake” I’ve been hearing all my life.
But yeah muscle is the kind of weight I’ve tried to gain. In my early 20s I spent 6 days a week in thr gym for 6 months and only gained 15 lbs. I drank 4L of milk a day. I ate a breast of chicken every day. I took in as .any grams of protein per meal, as I weighed in lbs. I took mutant mass and farted it all out. It was exhausting. Then I started a new career, and life got too busy to keep at it, spending 2-3 hrs a day in traffic. It was just too much so I lost all that weight
you forgot fat ;-)
I mean, yeah a bit of fat would be neat too. But I find that just as hard to put on as muscle. Holy hell I don’t think I could take in any more food than I already do, idk where it all goes!
there is a theory that lean mass hyperresponders only take what they need, while discarding what they dont need. so for you, calories in = calories out doesnt count at all.
no. you need fat AND protein to build muscle. the fat you eat doesnt get turned into fat; it gets turned into buildings blocks for your body. fat is hugely important in building all kinds of things. as is protein.
the meds help with managing your feelings, thats what you did with binge eating. scientists discuss how binge eating and adhd are realated.
The link is pretty interesting. Apparently a lot of eating disorders can be related to ADHD…namely BED, anorexia, and bulimia.
With BED, supposedly it’s about instant gratification. That’s likely why a lot of people binge on a specific type of food…like sweets or saltys. Some of it can even be an OCD behavior.
I do wish it was given nearly the same attention as the other eating disorders. It wasn’t even until a couple of years ago that I heard of it and the specific markers (like eating well past being full, or binging in secret). But most people have never heard of it because “har har fat person”.
This is also why I believe obesity should often be handled as a symptom of mental distress, not something that exists in a vacuum.
the ritalin issue was probably salt and mineral / vitamin deficency. yeah, you need to eat before taking concerta, people just dont listen ;-)
I took the concerta with my cereal before school as prescribed by my doctor. Lunch I was able to get down my pb&j, but dinner was impossible past the second or third bite
dont think thats the main issue here
I do
lol obviously
Glad you got it under control without the pills that made you feel bad. Happy for you
Thank you!
Yeah, fuck life changing medication! White knuckle it like a true american.
I’m not American
Yeah, fuck life changing side effects! White knuckle it like a true american.
My point wasn’t that people shouldn’t do what’s right for them. It was that for many people these medications make a huge difference and without them they they might find themselves suffering from things like depression, anxiety, isolation, etc.
That’s prob beyond you, tho.
Also, For many people these medications destroy their bodies and lives. The world isn’t black and white
so, where i can read about how ritalin destroys the life and bodies of adhd patients?
i looked up ritalin on that side, and there was not a single article about ritalin destroying bodies and lifes.
Not when administered by a health care professional and properly monitored
Yeah you’re right and that’s great for them, but I’m not part of that group
Oh yeah, three hours of high school swim practice and seven of school without a bite to eat on Concerta. Awful. And I’d stay up til 3 am every night with vyvanse. I’d consider trying something else but I’m 0-2.
Wonder how the rate of undiagnosed ADHD is…
Too damn high.
probably high, and the rate of unwarrented diagnoses also must be high. and people that get misdiagnosed as bipolar. borderline, and binge eaters. must be high among women, as far as i understood.
met one chick that was clear as day 100 % adhd, I sniffed that out the second time i met her. they said she was bipolar and put her on bipolar meds she absolutely hated to take.
i tried to explain it to hear, and had to give it up, she was in total adhd denial,. and i knew it was pointless.
if you would need a picture for an adhd book, you would take her. everything fit, she also had a chaotic raging alcolholic as father, and would self medicate with canabis and alcohol.
Caffeine, anger, and a commitment to the bit.
AuDHD and completely caffeine free (and stimulant/meds/drugs free too). Caffeine definitely doesn’t work for me like it does for other people - makes me sleepy and headachey. I’d rather just work with what I’ve got, (noise cancelling headphones + being inflexible) even if it has limitations
i just quit coffee. was way harder than quitting smoking and alcohol. i am not sure. i have the impression that my nose is less congested, and i am more up beat in the morning.
Same, also makes me shit myself
This post is forgetting the alcohol
Gotta calm the nerves some how
Did someone say weed?
Alcohol makes me angry at the world. Weed glues me to the couch.
So alcohol for productivity
All the above plus an unhealthy amount of isolation and hardcore computer addiction got me through life “unmedicated” 🥹
I feel that. Without caffeine and anger I would just be a sad, highly compressed ball of sadness and stress and sadness.
I’m in this comment and I dont like it
It’s not just you, don’t take all the credit
I left behind the anger about a decade ago and was just sad and tired and anxious until I got medicated about a year ago
I don’t get angry, just anxious. I AM that ball of sadness and stress.
Have you tried looking for a wizard to ponder you?
Did they go to wizard college or did they conserve their V I T A L E S S E N C E for 30 years?
…usually both. Wizarding is a lot like how it’s described in the Sir Terry Pratchett’s Discworld series.
I wish I could afford therapy.
My health insurance only pays for 2 psych vists/y. This is in “socialist utopia” W-EUR.
We shouldn’t mock the US healthcare system, ours is only marginally better.
You wanna know something cool though? If I was alcoholic instead of depressed, I could get help for free.
I hate this entire world and every human being on it, and my parents most of all for bringing me into it.
This might be a bit sensitive of a question to ask, but what country are you in? Because I’ve lived in several western European countries and the access to healthcare wildly varies between them. Especially countries that’ve “enjoyed” a multitude of conservative/right wing governments over the past three decades seem to have really embraced enshittifying healthcare access and affordability while pushing an American-style private system as the “solution”.
Flanders, Belgium. We’ve been ruled by right-wing austerity hawks for a good decade now, so you hit the nail on the head.
I’m sorry to hear that. And yes, it’s depressing to see these “privitization will save us all” types destroy public services using the same old playbook of “defund, defund, defund, point out the issues after decades of defunding, then start to slow-roll private options until the public service has been fully hollowed out” everywhere.
A psychologist/psychiatrist is not a therapist, it’s a very different pay grade.
A therapist will usually consult with a psychologist to get you recommendations, and will help you work through your ADHD. It may take a couple of attempts to get a good one, though.
Ah, is that where my anger problems come from?
Caffeine worsens my existential panics, so I got that going for me, which is not nice.
