Some guy thousands of years ago: “hmm should I just learn to deal with my feelings or should I instead condemn all women to thousands of years of discomfort…Eh second one is easier for me”
Isn’t it lovely how she gets to sweat to death under her death robes?
TBF, big loose clothing is actually the best for that weather. That’s why they wear it (men and women both). The only difference is the face covering and the color.
Yes, white reflects light so it stays cooler, but might possibly show some suggestion of human outline. Black absorbs light so it gets hotter. Add the exhaled humidity from covering her face.
At least there’s probably a sea breeze.
Those are images of Tuaregs, the nomadic people living in the Sahara. You see only few wearing white garnments. The majority wears shades of blue or even black. I trust the people who actually live in the desert to know about how to deal with the sun and heat:
Yes but this is clearly a fashion show. I mean just look at the camel toe.
Yes, visible light.
White causes the non visible light to pass through, causing more heat underneath. Black absorbs the heat on the outside.
Ever wonder why motorcycle clothes are black too? That’s why.
(I researched because I would’ve liked white clothes)
Ever wonder why motorcycle clothes are black too?
'cuz it’s more badass
And because white leather just looks awful.
Black leathers don’t show the tire dust and asphalt as much. White clothes are a bitch to keep clean.
Your skin touching the underside of the hot black fabric gets hot. You can do this yourself and feel it.
Apparently black clothes, when worn loose with a big skirt like that, can create a chimney effect and increase airflow underneath
This is correct and something I learned about recently. The style of a lot of middle eastern type clothing is all very loose and baggy for both men and women, because of that, the color of the clothing doesn’t affect it’s heat intake. It’s thought that a lot of clothing styles came to be because of what was available to use to weave them. If I’m remembering correct, the desert areas had a lot of wool to work with. Wool is an insulator… So in order to wear it in that climate they wove it very loose with a lot of layers and baggyness. I’m not an expert on the matter though, so I might be mistaken
That’s actually been debunked. The difference between black and white clothing is so negligible it’s entirely unnoticeable. The structure of the clothing is far more important.
It has only been debunked for lose fitting clothing since there is airflow between the clothes and skin. It is not negligible for tight clothing.
It’s also negligible for tighter clothing. See https://nltimes.nl/2023/07/21/wearing-white-clothing-wont-make-cooler-heat-researchers-confirm
Maybe the study was more robust that this article suggests, but this doesn’t tell me anything. Humans are amazing at regulating our remperature via sweat, so I have zero doubt that normal healthy people will have the same internal and even skin temps wearing different color clothing in different conditions. If the group wearing e.g. dark codlors just sweat X% more to compensate, we can’t draw any conclusions at all. Clothing is complicated, since airflow and moisture retention matter significantly, but we know for a fact that lighter colors reflect more energy than darker colors.
Muslim here, face covering is not religiously mandated at all, to the point that it actually MUST be removed when going on hajj. Anything else is religious extremism.
Even wearing hijab HAS to be a woman’s choice and cannot be forced upon them by anyone else. People who force women to do otherwise are control freaks who don’t think women are human and I hate them as much as I hate Zionists.
The only thing that women are religiously mandated to cover at all times in public is their torso up to their elbows, and their legs up to their knees. For men it’s their legs from belly button to knees. To make it clear, This is coming from a person who would not enforce my beliefs on anyone else, and supports trans rights because all humans deserve to do what they’d like as long as it doesn’t hurt anyone else
I think… it took me a second… you’re speaking as a religious scholar, not at all about how countries implement the rules, right? You’re talking about your interpretation of the Quran, not what the Iranian government dictates, yeah?
Oh I’m speaking about interpretation on an individual level, which is honestly how it should be. Modern governments can’t even follow their own rule book, so having them attempt to follow something else that they choose to interpret however they like is an issue itself
I’m a woman who overheats really easily and I work at a bakery (my need for free good coffee overwhelmed my need for temperature stability when choosing a job), so I wear loose dark-colored linen shorts year round. They come to a couple of inches above my knees and I don’t think they could be considered sexy by anyone without a very specific fetish- I feel very much like a mailman wearing them (that’s intentional, I’m generally a pretty modest dresser).
One of our regular customers is an imam, and a lot of my coworkers are nominally Muslim, to the point that they feel weird/guilty when he comes in, but I was raised Catholic, so I don’t mind. He’s a good guy, and we chat sometimes, including about religious guidelines (I’m the kind of asshole who likes to have opinions about things in the Quran without being able to read Arabic, and he takes that about as well as a reform rabbi, plus I am delicate about how I phrase things).
Summer before last, I was in the middle of losing ten kilos because of the heat. I couldn’t keep meals down and basically only wanted to eat cucumbers and watermelon, but I still had to work. I asked him about what would happen to Muslims with my heat tolerance, and he laughed a little and said that it was like asking what happens to diabetics during Ramadan. Obviously there can be medical exceptions to all of the rules and anyone could see from several meters away that I was not handling the heat well.
I’ll grant you, this guy is a liberal imam living in Germany, but it is reasonable that a major world religion not adopt strict environmental regulations that endanger their believers.
That imam has got it right. Anyone who has a medical issue where they have to take something orally is exempt from fasting.
People overcomplicate things, when in reality it’s all about doing what you can. Even for something that’s as forbidden as eating pork; if you’re starving in the middle of a savanna and the only thing you can find to eat is a wild boar you managed to kill, go for it. Doing the basic survival thing always comes first.
Yeah, it’s the same reason my very devout Catholic grandmother didn’t feel guilty about taking medication before mass and still having communion. Reasonable people interpret religious texts reasonably.
As long as religion is not woman’s choice, you can force whatever you want.
Fun for the whole family
Republicans drool at the thought of this.
Maybe we are not so different, in a warld where you are not so brown, we could even be friends
The ultimate projection, this entire time, has been their hatred of Islam. They’re jealous of Sharia Law.
2026 will be the year of Levitical law.
Where should we be putting our efforts? Where should we be putting our focus? I’ll tell you where our enemies are putting it. They’re putting it on the kids.
It’s no wonder, with that kind of intense training and discipling, that those young people are ready to kill themselves for the cause of Islam. I wanna see young people who are as committed to the cause of Jesus Christ as the young people are to the cause of Islam. I wanna see them as radically laying down their lives for the Gospel as they are over in Pakistan and Israel and Palestine and all those different places, you know, because we have… excuse me, but we have the truth!
Becky Fisher, Jesus Camp
Y’all Qaeda
It’s really interesting. In a real life they want the picture above, and in video games they want every woman to be a model and showing as much skin as possible.
Further widening the canyon between the two parties with this kind of cynical and dishonest takes isn’t just unproductive - it’s counterproductive. Fake internet points aren’t that valuable.
Republicans widened the gap themselves by repealing roe vs wade. They literally are prosecuting women for seeking maternal healthcare. Get out of here with your “both sides” bullshit.
“An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.” Feeling wronged doesn’t give you a free pass to distort reality or attack people dishonestly. You can criticize Republicans all you want - but do it with integrity. You’d rightly call them out for misrepresenting your views, so maybe hold yourself to that same standard.
And let’s not throw around accusations of “both sides” when your own response jumped straight to whataboutism. If you care about the truth, it should apply consistently.
Oh sorry, how many planned parenthood’s have been bombed in the past decade? How’s that for “integrity.” When republicans don’t like something, they resort to actual terrorism. What regime does that remind you of? One that suppresses women’s voice. Stones them for infidelity. Ring any bells?
The courts have deemed a women’s life less important than their unborn child. What’s next?
I’m not defending Republican policies, and I’m not denying that there are real issues worth being angry about. What I’m calling out is the way you’re choosing to express that anger - by making exaggerated, tribalistic jabs that shut down conversation and treat an entire group as cartoon villains.
There’s only one side that’s tribalistic and that’s the right. If you break down politics enough, there’s only two ways really - for the vulnerable or for those in power. Each side has a multitude of different approaches, but people who chose the path to the right are ultimately all fighting against the weak, the powerless, the discriminated. If you don’t call that out, you’re complicit.
You can argue that one side is worse than the other all day long - but that’s not what I was talking about. I’m pointing out that reducing an entire group to caricatures and using that to justify dishonest or hostile behavior isn’t helpful. It shuts down conversation and feeds the same tribal mindset you claim to oppose.
If material analysis wIdEns ThE cAnYoN then maybe it’s necessary - distancing logical discourse from lying scheming fascists that is. If you omit the similarities between right wingers you might as well join them.
you might as well join them.
I don’t see how that furthers your cause. Quite a few have already joined them, as you might’ve noticed - and this kind of rhetoric isn’t exactly helping with that.
Crying for “civil discourse” neuters popular resistance. It has to be as clear as possible which side is the wrong side.
And you can make it clear without lies or misrepresentation.
Before reading the context I thought this was an AI generated photo of Darth Vader dreaming of the childhood he never had.
Somehow, the reality is sadder.
It’s the grim reaper, waiting for them to drown.
Disgusting
The beauty of this photo is only surmounted by the despair. It’s so human it hurts.
This begs for a photoshopped Darth Vader helmet
I think I saw a stand of hair peeking out. Mohammad! Get the stones!
But what if she enjoy it? /s
It’s her choice, by her own volition ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Mahsa_Amini )
She’s choosing to not be murdered by cops or angry mob!
She can take it off whenever she wants to get stoned
Just sad
Genuinely, and I think the most sad is how that innocent little child will be, if they haven’t already, corrupted into believing this is a healthy and normal way to treat women and for women to live
She is dressed so decently. Yay for ethics and morals.
So the guy isn’t?
Religion is a monstrous evil.
Indeed.
(uk) I told a Pakistani guy(who I absolutely adore despite him being young and believing the Jews did 9/11 lmao) at work that I have a ‘crush’ on this Afgani girl. He told me she’s not good cuz she grew up here and that I should go for one that’s properly raised abroad. “Less headache” he said
I refuse to believe religion is anything else but a scheme to have control over women
If these people want to live as if it’s the year 2000 BC with their stupid ideals, their sand storm outfits, sandals, etc they can go live in Pakistan. If they want to integrate into the existing community, they should be welcomed. Mr Powell (and to some extent Starmer) who made reference to the “nation of strangers” in the infamous “rivers of blood” speech, separated the “good ones”, the doctors, professionals etc from the bulk which it went on to explain was the problem.
Pakistani men (of all ages) are amongst the stupidest people I know. The “elders” having the “women shouldn’t even be heard” opinions passed down (and believed to be fact) to the kids. Where I am, there are sharia courts. You know, the “law system” that states raped women need 4 witnesses otherwise she cheated on her husband, FGM, “expelling” them from their community and forcing them homeless, essentially castigating women. There is a muslim woman who I regularly see who sleeps rough every night and who doesn’t ask for help because of this ‘law’. These men believe they own the women and are protector of “their” woman, or any woman in general against white people. They generally believe white people (the people that inhabit the country they have moved to), are scum. By being Pakistani male, they believe they the smartest, their way is THE way, and they can not do any wrong.
The women can sadly be equally as stupid, thinking they deserve the verbal and physical abuse they get (it happens a lot in the community and is incredibly normalised). Some actually believe they should obey men, but there are, in particular Arabs / Egyptians women who seem to generally hate white men, looking down on them.
And of course, they are different kinds; true muslim people, then, black muslims - they’re lesser people than muslim people. A doctor I knew liked to point that out.
Then there’s the heroin. Pakistanis are the biggest controllers of it in the UK.
It’s a cult. If you leave, your family are bullied by the other muslim community to stop contacting you for example.
I realise somewhat the irony, but they really are racist, violent, and abusive pricks. I welcome everyone, except those who aren’t welcoming to me.
I realise somewhat the irony
Do you actually realize the irony of your extremely racist tirade?
Is it racist to have an opinion on the brainwashing by a religion and the utter dolts who practise it? Religionist? It’s racist until it happens to you and you’re outnumbered by these people who think they control the cities they inhabit, in some forcing women of all races to wear scarves or face verbal / physical / sexual abuse from Pakistani men.
No, it is not.
who I absolutely adore despite … believing the Jews did 9/11 lmao
I’m surprised his take on women surprised you. I hope your response started with “what the fuck”.
He also believes that not a single Jewish person died during the twin tower attack…
So do they have like an e-newsletter or something? What’s the proposed mechanism?
Edit: okay, I’ve thought about it. It’s absurd, but at least conceivable, that you could have a listserv Jewish Employees Working in WTC or whatever. Fine. But that’s not enough! You also have to be sure no visitors, meeting attendees, etc…from all over the world are Jewish. So you expect me to believe that for an entire day, there were zero Jewish people in business meetings. I mean, COME ON! I just don’t get antisemitism.
Enough reason to not engage with a person.
I refuse to believe religion is anything else but a scheme to have control over
womenothers.The men are happy to be stepped on by the leaders, if they have somebody else to step on in turn.
And sadly, religion is just one of many tools to be used this way.
While i agree that women get the short end of the stick religion is also a tool to control the male part of the population. Everyone is made to fit their (more or less shitty) role. What i want to say is: Women AND Men will be the winner if religion dies.
True. I totally hate the idea of being a husband, a provider for the family, of the societal push to be successful and rich enough or else you won’t be a good father and husband. I don’t want to be fully responsible for any wife. All of this so I can nurture children so they work tirelessly. More flesh for the sweatshops and warehouses. Please give me a break.
And the poor
Religion is only the excuse.
I don’t know… I’m getting pretty hot and bothered by the man being bear chested, which is his fault of course.
He shouldn’t be allowed in public like that because it makes me sexually frustrated and if I loose control he should be held responsible for it not me.
You joke, but there was an imam who said it is bad for a man to wear beards because it tempts other people. Tell us you’re gay without telling us you’re gay, lol.
There was an Iranian official who manages the censorship board. Iirc, he got caught sending extremely explicit messages to a man in his early twenties.
Religion is a cancer.
Unlike religion, many cancers can be vanquished.
Religion is a cancer.
It’s only responsible for war, hate, and bigotry. How can you be so down on it? Now then, let’s persecute people who believe in different fairy tales!
Slightly different fairly tales.
It’s only responsible for war, hate, and bigotry.
I wish that were true, but Ayn Rand proved you can propagate all of these things as an Atheist.
There was another imam that said men must have beards because clean-shaven men were woman-like and a temptation for other men.
I can see why. I mean, I personally will fuck anything that is shaved. Man, woman, everything in between.
There was even a piece of timber that was giving me the come on, so I got my wood planer out and did the business.
It’s not my fault, that oaky harlot was begging for it…and got what it deserved!!Like my ole grandpappy used to say “If I cedar, I breed her.”
dammit gramps, we’re at a restaurant, you can’t say that shit.
You son of a bitch! I love you!
Son of a birch…
One likes bears, the other likes twinks, can you truly blame them? 😔
That’s hilarious in an looking in from the outside kind of way.
I remember watching a tirade from a similar imam that you mentioned. He was going in on women’s shoe wear and how some shoes showed too much if the foot and the arch. Like dude, foot fetish much?
*lose
Whoever downvoted you is a loser.
*looser
/s
You missed “bear chested”.
I would say “Hold on…”
But the man is not beary enough.
Needs more fluff in that chest,
Very good thank you.
My first thought is to add a foreboding scythe.
Secondly, that my significant other would actually love this arrangement, no kid, plenty of shade, don’t have to get in the water! We can’t judge the toxicity of a relationship based on a photo of their clothes. Hopefully she is cool with it
My first thought is to add a foreboding scythe.
Oh. Oh, this would have been delicious. It’s not too late!
My first thought, before I realized what I was seeing, was “Palpatine at the beach”…
I think the problem is that, whether or not she’s “cool with it” is never even taken into account.
Yeah but which soul is the reaper going to take? The son, leaving the father blaming himself all his life? The father giving his life to save the children? Leaving the boy alone in a deserted beach? Both?
