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So hard to get a thank you. Manners these days…
It doesn’t have to be like this, America. Not only is tipping not expected in Australia, but when the “Choose tip” screen comes up on US made software, all the servers I’ve ever had skip straight through it and choose zero.
Servers deserve to be paid fairly.
“Choose tip” screen comes up on US made software
US corpo parasite is attempting to export this shite so they can charge their parasite fee on higher gross amount…
Pathetic
I award you no tips, and may God have mercy on your soul!
This is why I have stopped dining out, if the business demands excess to then pay staff and without tips staff go unpaid then what is it I am supporting.
Gonna call “likely fake ragebait” on this
The fact you have to say “likely” rather than “outright bullshit” says everything. As an european If america didn’t exist I’d know this image is a joke.
I also can’t believe it is real, but it is real.
https://nypost.com/2023/10/25/business/alaskan-restaurants-100-tip-option-appalls-vacationer/
That is one example of it occurring, yes, but similarities with the image presented here and your source end at the 100% tip. Everything else has been modded to bait that rage.
Your link shows an entirely different tip screen.
It is different, but close enough that I won’t be surprised this is real.
That was followed by an option of 30%, described as “Great;” 50%, rated as “Wow!” and finally 100%, which the tip screen noted was for the “Best Service Ever!” per the outlet
30% is “soso” but a 100% is only “Thank You”? In this case the 100% should be “Walk over to the other side of the register so the boss can blow You”.
I don’t mind paying for the convenience. I tip well. I do wish we lived in a country where living wages were a thing. But we don’t. We’re a giant slave colony owned by like 5 megacorps.
My question here is, how much was the bill? 5 or $600?
95, lol, the percentages are there on the screen
Yep. Sure is. Hopefully that makes my blonde moment quota for a few days.
If you look at the screenshot you can see the bill is $95
This would get an immediate Custom -> 0% from me the moment I see it.
Fucking “soso” for a 20% tip the hell
If this is in a restaurant after I’ve eaten, it would get 0% and I’d never go there again.
If this is presented to me somewhere you pay before consuming your food/purchase, I’m leaving without paying.As a dev I would try negative value in the custom field.
They know there’s soft, weak people like me that find it painful because the guy in front of you can see it. I mean, I’m a good principled person and I’ve still done it, but I felt like trash in the process.
I guess it was just a matter of time before other classes than the bottom one figured out aggressive panhandling.
There’s no 20 it’s 30%!! Insane.
Yeah it’s disgusting
I frequent a bagel place that automatically adds a fairly hefty (not THAT hefty) tip when you pre-order online for in-store pickup.
If not for the fact that they are by far the best place to go for bagels in my area (we have few choices), that alone would stop me from ordering.
Their bagels are good, and I’m not above tipping at a bagel place. But their prices are already very high for a bagel place (they know what they got), they do brisk business, and they should damn well be paying their employees more rather than trying to sneak a 25% tip into every online order. It doesn’t even present it as in OP - it’s just there in the itemization in the end and you need to manually edit it out before ordering.
Edt - oh and if real, I ain’t never going back to the place in OP after seeing that one time.
If real…
Custom 0%
It ain’t my job to pay your employees salaries
Maybe it’s your job to avoid patronizing places that don’t pay their employees enough though?
I absolutely will pick the no-tips place given a choice, but I take issue with that wording. Basically every business pays as little as possible, by design.
Given a choice? There’s always a choice. You’re just leaving yourself a convenient back door to not tip while benefitting from tipping culture.
I would happily pay more for my meal if it meant I didn’t have to tip. The benefit we get from not tipping is marginal compared to the benefit restaurant owners get by not paying living wage. Not to mention it’s added stress to the actual people doing the work because they don’t even get the guarantee of a decent paycheck.
And there is a choice, you chose to perpetuate the system that grossly exploits the laborer, I choose to have minimal participation in such a system. Want to take a guess which of the two actually has a chance to fix the system?
…what? I’m saying they can always help it, they can always not go somewhere that expects tips. But if you would like to go somewhere that expects tips, you better fucking tip. You can’t have your cake and eat it too. Don’t want to support that system? Don’t participate in it at all. Don’t just not participate in the part that costs you money. I don’t get why you’re lecturing me as if I defend tipping as a system.
But you are defending the system. You’re literally saying if you end up in a place that expects tipping then you should tip. What if you’re going out with a group and that group decides to go somewhere that expects tipping? Are you supposed to remove yourself from the group so you wouldn’t go into a place like that?
You can’t take this black and white stance where if you end up participating in this system you also have to perpetuate that system. Making the customer feel like they’re responsible for the livelihood of the staff is how this tipping culture is kept alive and that is exactly what you’re doing right now. You’re trying to claim we are responsible for their livelihood simply because we stepped into the restaurant and ate.
Show me exactly where I defended the system. Show me a single line.
I said if you don’t want tipping to continue, you can’t support restaurants that tip. If you go to a restaurant that expects tips and you don’t tip, you are keeping them in business while screwing over the person working. It is the worst of all worlds. In that scenario you are perpetuating the system by participating in it. It’s a choice.
“As little as possible” and “not enough” are two different things.
I suppose, but it’s really hard to separate. You have to pick a cutoff, which in the face of a world full of intangible wealth and costs is hard, and then if you come out with a number that’s too high you basically have nowhere you can shop.
There’s select industries that are super shitty, and I avoid those, but paying minimum wage for unskilled labour is a normal industry. (And, ironically, a lot of the fair-ethical-organic type businesses are super shitty themselves, because everyone wants to get paid extra and some will do horrible things to make that happen)
You’re saying this like it’s necessary to eat in restaurants with waiters. It isn’t. It’s a luxury.
Wait, where are you? I thought I recognised you from .ca, but it sounds like you might be thinking of the US system where they can pay nothing except tips. In my province you earn at least minimum wage as a waiter, and tips.
If I were to just straight up refuse to eat from restaurants under any circumstance, I’d be heavily incurring those intangible costs I mentioned, because it’s an expected social thing. That being said, I might consider it if I was in the US, but I’m not.
Also, tips have expanded well beyond servers, but that’s kind of beside the point.
Well you thought wrong. I was born and raised in the U.S. and lived there until about two weeks ago when we fled.
And in my 47 years in America, I was never in a situation where I couldn’t say, “no thanks” if someone invited me to a restaurant. And who invites you to restaurants and makes you pay?
Certainly not lol, what a ridiculous thing to say
No, it’s not, however as a near-minimum wage worker myself, it is not my job to cover a massive corporation’s lack of proper budgeting…
If you keep patronizing such businesses, why would they ever do that? They know they don’t have to in order to get your money. And it is the same with your own near-minimum wage job. You are working against your own best interests. Nothing will change while people are willing to give their money to companies that don’t pay their workers a fair wage.
Don’t get me wrong, I have nothing against tipping if the person did a good job, but a company trying to guilt trip me into giving them a mandatory tip? Nah, that’s bullshit, it’s essentially “Oh, we can’t pay our employees enough, would you mind helping 🥺”. Outta here with that.
Right,so don’t use those businesses. You give them no reason to do anything differently.
All you are doing is helping to maintain the status quo.
I think it is the case of “you think in the right direction, but you don’t do it all the way, so now I’m gonna attack you over this until you stop doing anything”.
Not paying tips is a good start.
Rewarding the employer for underpaying the employees is not, in any way, the right direction, though? Not tipping is just telling the employees “I don’t care if you get paid, so long as I get what I want”
How? Those people just aren’t going to get the money. Its not like the company is going to pay them extra because you didnt tip. Theyve already decided that the wage will be low Your logic doesn’t really make sense
Can you give an example of that ever working? Because boycotts sure as fuck work.
You don’t get it, I think? The point is to get the workers to quit or protest because they don’t get paid enough, so that the place can increase the prices instead so they can pay their workers. If the place is still providing a nice service or good food or whatever it may be, you don’t want it to go out of business. Just make a worker-positive change.
Most people won’t quit, especially in the US from what I know. If they are already underpaid, how can they quit? And if pretty much every place treats waiters the same, what choice do they have?
It takes everyone to fix these issues. It is not a one-sided job. Every time you give these establishments money, you help them.
And there is no shortage of replacement waiters out there for the ones who quit.
I would not, that’s… what I’m trying to imply here… Yeah, businesses who don’t pay their employees enough bad.
The moment they ask for a tip they are not getting anything nor a repeat customer.
Presenting the possibility to tip on the screen is ok, I think. The tone (and from my European perspective the percentages) is, what I find weird.
I agree, the %s are too high, and there should be a “no tip” option there (even though you should tip here especially full service but not counter service), but also the “30% soso?!” Even I’m not tipping this one.
I’ll tip them ¥0.50 if they started preaching communism and say “LONG LIVE CHAIRMAN XI”, out loud, in front of the FBI headquarter.
Fake: Tip isn’t calculated on top of tax.
That kinda depends where you live. Also, source
ITT.
I love the scene where a group of sociopathic murders are all shocked at how scummy someone has to be to deprive a waitress of her wages, as if it’s justified because the owner doesn’t pay her either.
It is absolutely justified. Businesses are able to pay employees, it’s just more profitable to move that burden onto customers.
Result? Customers pay more, and workers don’t have a stable income. The only winning party is a business.
By tipping, you help the worker short-term, but aid in proliferating a system that makes it so much worse for them.
That’s why I love cultures where tipping isn’t just uncommon, but is flat out rejected, because workers are paid well and are proud of it.
This would be an automatic “custom” > 0% for me. Sorry, not sorry.
