• WoodScientist@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        3 months ago

        And they’re perfect for this kind of thing! What better way to punish rude tip demands? Despite how rude it is, you don’t want to throw someone in jail over this. A fine? You risk the fine being so low it’s just a cost of business or so high you just ruined some service worker’s life. This is exactly where the pillory shines!

        Demand a tip like this? To the stockades with you! Spend an afternoon chained up by the sidewalk, while people throw tomatoes at you. No real harm done. Just public embarrassment.

        • Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io
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          3 months ago

          I gu-ar-an-tea the server didn’t make up those tips, so we’re talking about the manager, or corporate flunky in the stocks, right?

          • Kaity@leminal.spaceEnglish
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            3 months ago

            it’s going to be corporate, In-store managers have practically no control. The person in charge of these practices is likely to be titled a regional director or similar, and even then they are going to be “translating” and implementing board/owner instructions.

  • piskertariot@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    3 months ago

    At this point I’d go full Karen asking to speak to the supervisor, then taking my business elsewhere.

    Vote with your wallet.

  • henfredemars@infosec.pubEnglish
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    3 months ago

    soso is the same sound as a word that means breasts in my mother tongue.

    Could be worth it under the best of circumstances.

  • BlueLineBae@midwest.socialEnglish
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    3 months ago

    I’ve actually seen 2 recent practices that I hate more than this. While this is frustrating, at least you can input a custom tip. I’ve also seen them where they show 3 different dollar amounts that don’t indicate percentage but doing the math, it’s definitely way over the usual 20%. Then there’s the one I hate the most which I keep seeing at places where you don’t usually tip. You go to pay with your card and the little transaction/card machine shows different tip amounts, the default of which is already set. If you don’t want to leave a tip, you have to figure out which button to push to do so. They’re all different and it can be very confusing. I even saw one where each option was labeled in correlation with a button on the screen, except that they didn’t match up. And what do you do then? Ask the person at the register how not to tip them?

    • moody@lemmings.worldEnglish
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      3 months ago

      15% has been the standard for many decades, and even that is supposed to be optional.

    • then_three_more@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      3 months ago

      America seems to be a bit crazy.

      Pretty sure 0%-10% is standard in the UK. Though a lot of those cheeky service charges are around 12.5

      • spookex@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        3 months ago

        I don’t remember actually doing tips as a percentage back when I lived in Latvia, it was usually that you took the bills and left any coins, maybe added some on top if there weren’t many.

        So probably 10% at most but still basically what I made per hour as a warehouse worker

    • Shortstack@reddthat.comEnglish
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      3 months ago

      It was 30 years ago, but the tipping percentage has been subject to inflation for some reason right alongside the cost of the service.

      Feels like an intentional double dip as a fuck you to me.

  • zkfcfbzr@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    3 months ago

    Back when 15% was considered standard I liked tipping closer to 30%, but as a direct result of the push to try to make 15% seem low I no longer tip more than 15%.

    • BakerBagel@midwest.socialEnglish
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      3 months ago

      All you are doing is punishing some poor server who has no control of the price. The owner who is actually fucking both you and the staff over is unaffected.

      • BradleyUffner@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        3 months ago

        Don’t pretend they have no control. They could band together and refuse to play by the restaurant’s rules. Things would change pretty quickly.

        • BakerBagel@midwest.socialEnglish
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          3 months ago

          So could you and your coworkers, but restaurant owners are the sleazist, scummiest, and greediest business owners in your community guaranteed. A restaurant in my town had the entire staff fired and the restaurant closed for a month because the owner would rather miss out on a month of business than pay a fair wage.

      • zkfcfbzr@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        3 months ago

        I’m punishing them by giving them what was until 10 years ago considered an excellent and standard tip?

        Not to mention that servers are, as a general group, extremely opposed to dismantling the tip system as a whole. My complaint wasn’t about raised food prices, which the owner would be in control of - it was about raised tipping percentage expectations. I refuse to contribute to the steadily rising expectation of how much a tip should be, and regret my past contributions to that trend.

        • BakerBagel@midwest.socialEnglish
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          3 months ago

          Rent has gone up a lot more than 15% in the past decade. The whole system is rotten and needs to be abolished, but all the servers i know are absolutely struggling right now and depend on getting a 20% tip on each table. How would you feel if half your paychecks were randomly 25% less? Stop going to restaurants that expect a tip by all means, but if you are going somewhere that expects it, you should tip.

          • zkfcfbzr@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            3 months ago

            15 is the percent of the tip, not the percent increase in tip income over the last decade. If the tip percentage stays constant, then the tip amount rises in direct proportion to the food cost. The fair comparison is rent increase vs. restaurant food price increase. The data I found indicates rent’s gone up at an average of 4% per year in the last decade, and that restaurant food prices have risen by a similar amount - anywhere from 3-7% depending on the industry.

            Everyone is struggling. It is not unique to servers. And I do tip - just a reasonable 15%. If a server is struggling to get by on 15% tips, they should harass their boss and their senator, not their customers who are likely struggling as well.

    • Kaity@leminal.spaceEnglish
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      3 months ago

      My tipping follows the inverse of how much I am paying for the product. If the product is well priced and the service was good I have been known to tip 100% for excellent service. Now that everything is nearly double the cost of what it used to be I am more inclined to tip 50 cents to a dollar max.

      They should be paying exceptionally well for what they are charging, but we know that isn’t the case. I don’t have unlimited wealth to spend either, fuck me for being poor and wanting some comfort “restaurant” food occasionally.

      • IamAnonymous@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        3 months ago

        The food prices went up 20% so my logic is if I continue to tip the same % the waiters should still make more money. Increasing the food prices and also doubling the tip is just double dipping. My work isn’t paying me 20% more every year so I can’t be paying for everyone’s inflation.

        • Kaity@leminal.spaceEnglish
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          3 months ago

          Exactly, and the only thing they have is increasing the guilt factor. But they’re gonna learn when put up against a cliff and a little guilt trip I’m just gonna take the guilt.