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The moment they ask for a tip they are not getting anything nor a repeat customer.
Presenting the possibility to tip on the screen is ok, I think. The tone (and from my European perspective the percentages) is, what I find weird.
I agree, the %s are too high, and there should be a “no tip” option there (even though you should tip here especially full service but not counter service), but also the “30% soso?!” Even I’m not tipping this one.
I don’t mind paying for the convenience. I tip well. I do wish we lived in a country where living wages were a thing. But we don’t. We’re a giant slave colony owned by like 5 megacorps.
My question here is, how much was the bill? 5 or $600?
If you look at the screenshot you can see the bill is $95
95, lol, the percentages are there on the screen
Yep. Sure is. Hopefully that makes my blonde moment quota for a few days.
This would get an immediate Custom -> 0% from me the moment I see it.
Fucking “soso” for a 20% tip the hell
They know there’s soft, weak people like me that find it painful because the guy in front of you can see it. I mean, I’m a good principled person and I’ve still done it, but I felt like trash in the process.
I guess it was just a matter of time before other classes than the bottom one figured out aggressive panhandling.
There’s no 20 it’s 30%!! Insane.
If this is in a restaurant after I’ve eaten, it would get 0% and I’d never go there again.
If this is presented to me somewhere you pay before consuming your food/purchase, I’m leaving without paying.Yeah it’s disgusting
As a dev I would try negative value in the custom field.
Select “Custom” and type 0.00 without breaking eye contact. Be careful, though, that 0.00 can quickly turn into 8.88 if you’re not looking.
You really think it’s the owner and not some poor, underpaid schmuck manning the register?
Yeah, it’s definitely the owner’s fault. That doesn’t change the fact that the underpaid schmuck always tries to blame the customer for not leaving a tip.
This was at a self-service kiosk, too, right?
That means the tip goes to the customer, right?
/s
30%: underpaid
40%: immorally underpaid
50%; criminally underpaid
100%: Les Miserables
soso is the same sound as a word that means breasts in my mother tongue.
Could be worth it under the best of circumstances.
"How much will you tip?
“TITS!”
Beats just the tip.
I’ve actually seen 2 recent practices that I hate more than this. While this is frustrating, at least you can input a custom tip. I’ve also seen them where they show 3 different dollar amounts that don’t indicate percentage but doing the math, it’s definitely way over the usual 20%. Then there’s the one I hate the most which I keep seeing at places where you don’t usually tip. You go to pay with your card and the little transaction/card machine shows different tip amounts, the default of which is already set. If you don’t want to leave a tip, you have to figure out which button to push to do so. They’re all different and it can be very confusing. I even saw one where each option was labeled in correlation with a button on the screen, except that they didn’t match up. And what do you do then? Ask the person at the register how not to tip them?
I would.
You bet I would.
[to cashier] “excuse me, ma’am, i can’t seem to find the button to not leave a tip. can you show me where it is?”
I enjoy quietly asking, “do these tips actually go to you?”
I’ve gotten a discreet “no” headshake more than a few times. Then you can feel justified taking however long you want to select zero.
I leave a Google review for places that have shitty tipping practices.
“100€, keep the change.”
Isn’t 10% the usual tip amount?
It was 30 years ago, but the tipping percentage has been subject to inflation for some reason right alongside the cost of the service.
Feels like an intentional double dip as a fuck you to me.
Yeah, I figured so. My knowledge on American tipping culture is based on 90s movies.
The reason is that minimum wage has been stagnant for the last 20 years. Servers are still getting paid $5 an hour plus their tips.
15% has been the standard for many decades, and even that is supposed to be optional.
America seems to be a bit crazy.
Pretty sure 0%-10% is standard in the UK. Though a lot of those cheeky service charges are around 12.5
I don’t remember actually doing tips as a percentage back when I lived in Latvia, it was usually that you took the bills and left any coins, maybe added some on top if there weren’t many.
So probably 10% at most but still basically what I made per hour as a warehouse worker
Uh…15% is. Or maybe 20% at a sit down restaurant.
Back when 15% was considered standard I liked tipping closer to 30%, but as a direct result of the push to try to make 15% seem low I no longer tip more than 15%.
My tipping follows the inverse of how much I am paying for the product. If the product is well priced and the service was good I have been known to tip 100% for excellent service. Now that everything is nearly double the cost of what it used to be I am more inclined to tip 50 cents to a dollar max.
They should be paying exceptionally well for what they are charging, but we know that isn’t the case. I don’t have unlimited wealth to spend either, fuck me for being poor and wanting some comfort “restaurant” food occasionally.
The food prices went up 20% so my logic is if I continue to tip the same % the waiters should still make more money. Increasing the food prices and also doubling the tip is just double dipping. My work isn’t paying me 20% more every year so I can’t be paying for everyone’s inflation.
Exactly, and the only thing they have is increasing the guilt factor. But they’re gonna learn when put up against a cliff and a little guilt trip I’m just gonna take the guilt.
All you are doing is punishing some poor server who has no control of the price. The owner who is actually fucking both you and the staff over is unaffected.
Don’t pretend they have no control. They could band together and refuse to play by the restaurant’s rules. Things would change pretty quickly.
So could you and your coworkers, but restaurant owners are the sleazist, scummiest, and greediest business owners in your community guaranteed. A restaurant in my town had the entire staff fired and the restaurant closed for a month because the owner would rather miss out on a month of business than pay a fair wage.
I’m punishing them by giving them what was until 10 years ago considered an excellent and standard tip?
Not to mention that servers are, as a general group, extremely opposed to dismantling the tip system as a whole. My complaint wasn’t about raised food prices, which the owner would be in control of - it was about raised tipping percentage expectations. I refuse to contribute to the steadily rising expectation of how much a tip should be, and regret my past contributions to that trend.
Rent has gone up a lot more than 15% in the past decade. The whole system is rotten and needs to be abolished, but all the servers i know are absolutely struggling right now and depend on getting a 20% tip on each table. How would you feel if half your paychecks were randomly 25% less? Stop going to restaurants that expect a tip by all means, but if you are going somewhere that expects it, you should tip.
15 is the percent of the tip, not the percent increase in tip income over the last decade. If the tip percentage stays constant, then the tip amount rises in direct proportion to the food cost. The fair comparison is rent increase vs. restaurant food price increase. The data I found indicates rent’s gone up at an average of 4% per year in the last decade, and that restaurant food prices have risen by a similar amount - anywhere from 3-7% depending on the industry.
Everyone is struggling. It is not unique to servers. And I do tip - just a reasonable 15%. If a server is struggling to get by on 15% tips, they should harass their boss and their senator, not their customers who are likely struggling as well.
100% you only receive a thank you?
Bastards
It’s fake rage bait you have fallen for
It may be but coming from the USA I don’t doubt, my European mind is not able to understand that
That’s an immediate $0.
“soso” 😂 I’m laughing but it’s not funny
Maybe the restaurants should pay their employees so customers don’t have to pay them? I know it’s a radical thought.
Honestly it should be both. Restaurants should pay minimum wage at the very least and then customers should be able to tip if they want. I have no issue tipping if the server did a good job. However, I’m not going to tip bad service.
I don’t know. I don’t think people who work as servers can affect if the food is bad, or if kitchen messes up stuff… They just take your order and get your food. I’m not sure why they should also act like they like you, and you are their favorite person in the world when you come into the restaurant… :)
I know you didn’t say any of that and with good service, thats maybe not what you meant. Just wanted to say my own opinion about service… I guess I don’t expect them to be fake and I don’t like it if they are.
I’m not going to be a dick to them. I know they can’t control what happens in the kitchen or other customers.
What I care most about is if they are reasonably attentive and nice to talk to. They don’t need to be to crazy but they also should care about my experience somewhat. Typically I tip around 15% but if the service is really bad I’ll go lower and if I feel they did exceptionally I’ll complement them and leave something closer to a 20% tip
I can see where you are at. I mean if a server is good then im more likely to be a repeat customer so its something the owner should take into account. Maybe the whole thing should be flipped on its head and it should be treated like a sales role and they get a percent of sales.
The same goes for the cook though. If the food is good I’m more likely to come back. And the people who do the cleaning - if the restairant is clean I’m also more likely to come be a repeat customer. So perhaps let the whole team have a percent of sales.
Especially because a lot of people in this thread seem to protest the tipping system by just not tipping. That only hurts the worker, y’all. It isn’t gonna change the system.
Part of the reason it shard to change the system is because of resistance from the waiters who make a lot of money from tips, so yes, not tipping does help change the system.
It would help as a mass coordinated action, which I’ve never even seen anyone bother to suggest. Maybe organize a no-tip day, maybe get some servers involved so it can really be about changing things for the better for them.
But I’ve never seen even an inch of that, which leads me to believe that what we have here is a bunch of people who don’t tip in order to save thrmselves a buck which, let’s face it, is the only thing they accomplish. They tell themselves it’s a gesture against an unjust system in order to salve their conscience (another totally selfish act).
It may actually change the system. Think about it.
I hate to break this to you, but the customer pays in all scenarios.
But, yes, the employer should pay a living wage and include their overhead costs into the price of the goods.
Wages should not be dependant on the kindness of strangers.
I’m not mad about paying it. I’m mad that the employer is treating it as an option and not an obligation
