• anarcho_blinkenist@lemmy.ml
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      collapse is less of an event, and more of a protracted decay and crumbling away of its structural integrity, out of which the existing contradictions which had been always simmering below the surface become increasingly sharp at points and times and ruptures along the fault lines begin to appear at increasing rates

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      I know you’re joking, but if the U.S. does actually collapse, very few people on the planet will have the fortune of being unaware.

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    He’s a compulsive liar who’s angry at things he’s fabricated for his own benefit. How the fuck is he even being considered for the job?

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    ABC gave Trump a massive handicap but he still managed to shoot himself in the foot a few times. Even the moderator roasted him once or twice.

    I am here for alien prison transgender surgeries

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      https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/09/politics/kfile-harris-pledged-support-in-2019-to-cut-ice-funding-and-provide-transgender-surgery-to-detained-migrants/index.html

      ""Harris also wrote that she supported taxpayer funding of gender transition surgeries for detained immigrants and federal prisoners.

      Harris was asked if, as president, she would use “executive authority to ensure that transgender and non-binary people who rely on the state for medical care – including those in prison and immigration detention – will have access to comprehensive treatment associated with gender transition, including all necessary surgical care.”

      Harris replied, “Yes.”"

      Alien and prison, taxpayer paid surgeries are on the menu, boys. Break in illegally or commit a crime, and your next surgery is free!

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        If you’re in prison for life, and you want to kill yourself because of gender dysphoria, providing you the medical care to avoid that is the humane thing to do. Period.

        If you are an immigrant detained for 6-12 months before deportation, the the odds of this applying to detained immigrants is near 0, but let’s say 1% it does, this would be tailored at ensuring they can have the drugs they require.

        Keeping people from shooting out the back of their fucking heads or swallowing a bottle of painkillers to end it all is always the humane choice.

        Don’t worry, we could fund it all by just not administering a few death penalties (those are more expensive than life imprisonment).

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          This is rage bait. How many times a year would this happen? Two? Three? There are more important things to talk about. That’s why they’re taking about this

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          Dude are you forgetting that people are ok with death penalty AND it’s normalized to die without treatment if you can’t pay for it?

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      Throwing all the taking points into a bucket. I bet those prisoners are also learning critical race theory.

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    I thought it was funny how Trump was just nodding along while Harris was saying that people often leave his rallies due to boredom. Also, him basically outright saying that immigration has never happened in the history of the country, along with the other nonsensical things he’s said.

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    This is the funniest shit I’ve ever seen.

    I knew Harris would wipe the floor, but this is incredible.

    The immigrants are eating our pets\s

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      It would be funnier if there wasn’t a sizeable percentage of people who support the cheetoh. There is still a real chance of that demented racist pos winning come november.

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        With any luck, that number just got smaller, even if by just a little bit.

        Something I noticed is that even Twitter was making fun of Trump. I never thought I’d see that happen.

        EXECUTE THE BABY was trending for at least a little bit

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          With any luck, that number just got smaller,

          The Zionist tangent from Kamala is likely going to alienate more Muslim-Americans, which genuinely puts Michigan into question. Muslim-Americans have been leaning more towards Stein and West than Harris according to polling, so we will have to see.

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            Dude read the room. You’ve railroaded a ton of threads to talk about Harris and Israel. You don’t have to force every conversation into that. Let this comment thread be about something else.

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              I am literally talking about the debate, though. This isn’t a random Harris thread, she very clearly went on a Zionist tirade in the face of her losing ground in Michigan and other Swing States with high percentages of Muslim-American voters, that’s factually a bad move that could impact her electoral chances.

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                Yeah she did, and you started another comment thread in this post about it. Talk about it there. You don’t need to railroad every conversation into trying to convince people that Harris is a monster. Let other people talk about other stuff from time to time.

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                  Counterpoint: Harris doesn’t need to be a monster such that it is a dereliction of democratic duty to not speak about it constantly.

                  Post-script to that counterpoint: You don’t need to railroad people talking about Copmala Handcuffs being a flamethrower unto human life and liberty her entire career into trying to convince people it’s worth helping and hoping she gets a new fuel tank handed to her.

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                  It isn’t derailing, the comment was about Trump’s chances getting smaller, when there are material reasons for Trump’s chances to get larger despite his poor performance specifically due to salient issues in swing states.

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              You realize that by demanding people shut up about genocide, you’ve actually incentivized users to talk about genocide, right?

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    Pain, absolute pain. Can we please not have another debate?

    We can tie that in with shorter campaign seasons too.

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    Your racist grandpa vs an ivy leaguer who brags about having a small business owner in her life (she grew up with a nanny)

    Also jesus both of them trying to outracist eachother. Kamala might be beat on the home front but she makes up for it on the world stage.

    ‘Trump is gonna pull us out of Nato’ and Kamala will ‘make the US Venezuela on steroids’. I dont know why each candidate is trying to convince me to vote for the other

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      One of them talked about a Marxist who will get rid of Israel within 2 years and wants to defund the police and give everyone healthcare and provide transgender operations to illegal immigrants, and the other talked about a person who hates the US military, admires China’s handling of COVID, and wants to defund the police and pull out of NATO, and I just wish I knew the names of either of those candidates because they’re both way better choices than what we’ve actually got.

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        I haven’t verified it but I read on another post that the Harris campaign specifically asked for the mics to be left on during this debate. If that’s true, it stands to reason that she wanted them to be lenient with Trump, so that now he can’t pull the “They didn’t let me talk!” bullshit when talking about his less than stellar (generous way of putting it) performance.

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      Yes, and he still lost handedly. That extra time was all rambles and nonsense. I think in the end it was better.

      (Yes, I still would have preferred they muted him, ultimately).

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        What does it mean to lose? I guarantee that Trump supporters disagree.

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          “see, I don’t have a nose anymore, but it’s worth it because he owns the liberals… it’s happening any time now, just wait and see”

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    The LWV (League of Woman Voters) sponsored the United States presidential debates in 1976, 1980 and 1984.[60][61] On October 2, 1988, the LWV’s 14 trustees voted unanimously to pull out of the debates, and on October 3 they issued a press release condemning the demands of the major candidates’ campaigns. LWV President Nancy Neuman said that the debate format would “perpetrate a fraud on the American voter” and that the organization did not intend to “become an accessory to the hoodwinking of the American public.”[62][63] All presidential debates since 1988 have been sponsored by the Commission on Presidential Debates,[64] a bipartisan organization run by the two major parties that some argue has established rules with the intent to exclude airing candidates associated with other parties.[65]

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_Women_Voters

    History - 1970-2000

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      Gotta remember this is a .world community, Lark; we both know there’s a staggering percentage of ghouls here more than happy to try and discourse with bloodied hands, bloodied jowls, and the remains of their last kill still visibly caught between their teeth.

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        Yeah I wasn’t paying attention to the comm. Still though, it should surely be a major topic. I don’t understand the American people at large.

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          My pet theory is that extreme atomization drains the empathic potential of the garden variety yankee to barely within their attempt at a nuclear family. Extendeds if you’re lucky. tl;dr they don’t have a reason to care.

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            I like to think that I have a decent grasp of the world, particularly as a Marxist. But sometimes I really struggle to get into the settler cultural mindset. I don’t want to read Settlers at this point in time because I’m already depressed and angry enough. I just can’t believe how quickly all of this became normal.

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    His fans will say he won and looked powerful. He didn’t, but they won’t care.

    Wish he’d been pressed more about killing the immigration bill. Every time he complained about it, remind him that he killed the immigration bill.

    Wish Orban wasn’t a diplomatic conflict. Trump saying Orban endorsed him should have been a liability but you probably can’t outright call him a wannabe dictator.

    I doubt it changes the mind of too many people who already had a preference, but maybe a few hopefully. Somehow there are undecided people, I hope they saw it plainly. I don’t think there was much that will hurt Harris from it. She performed very well.

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      I don’t think there was much that will hurt Harris from it. She performed very well.

      She was articulate, well-spoken, performed well unscripted, and next to Trump she looked like she had her shit very together.