genetic engineering? ai singularity perhaps? How do you intend to live forever?

  • Rikudou_Sage@lemmings.world
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    4 months ago

    If we’re speaking how I’d like to do that if possible, just put my brain into a robot body. Or just upload my whole mind into a robot.

    If we’re talking realistically:

    guess I'll die

    • bitcrafter@programming.dev
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      4 months ago

      Meh, if immortality means that a copy of me is being uploaded into a computer, then at least I guess that is technically someone else spending eternity in the Torment Nexus?

  • Tanis Nikana@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    I read The Postmortal by Drew Magary.

    If no one dies, life is worthless.

    And if only I stay alive forever, my wife and my friends are gone, and it’s just me, alone, in this shattered husk of a body.

  • Alexstarfire@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Ever? None. I’m not foolish enough to think I can live forever. Even if I could be upload to a computer, I wouldn’t. That sounds more like hell than heaven. No Earthly pleasures.

  • fullsquare@awful.systems
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    4 months ago

    my background in biochemistry makes me think it’s almost guaranteed to be impossible, so i don’t worry about it.

    however, in hypothetical case it isn’t, i’d argue that it would be proper to destroy this technology in all cases along with inventors, because it would be horridly expensive initially, and first people to get it would be people like peter thiel and larry ellison. there was a recording where putin and xi admitted that they are also interested. then what you’ll get would be class of immortal oligarchs. planck once said, progress in physics happens one funeral at a time, it’s really more general than just physics, and you can say goodbye to any progress from that point on

      • fullsquare@awful.systems
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        4 months ago

        thiel isn’t funding unlicensed drug trials for longevity/immortality just so that he’ll become more progressive in the process

        with 200, 300 year old oligarchs values they grew up with are gonna stay influential much longer

        For the record, i just intend to outlive my enemies

    • kubofhromoslav@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      What about possibility to live in great health for several decades longer, and if you get tired by life you just stop taking pills and deteriorate to oblivion as is usual now?

  • Spacehooks@reddthat.comEnglish
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    4 months ago

    Lol is vampirism an option? All option are basically losing your humanity. I’ll list some non magical ones:

    Genetic enginerring: ok maybe i can improve my form by fixing the DNA deteriorating but how much memory will I be able to retain? Psychosis is going to suck.

    Cloning/body swap with memory transfer: Basically all im doing is killing a version of me for a new one to start. Id have to be real chill with that or kill my self right as it starts to have continuity. Play SOMA for more insight. I know my SO could not handle that. Id get used to but not really ideal. Also issue of how much memory can be retained.

    Digital upload in quantum computer: Your physical form still dies but this one is my favorite but with a few “*” Because this can easily be condemned a version of yourself to hell. Basically your digital soul needs complete control of your environment and be able to escape to real mechanical or biological body on whim. Being restricted like in Upload will be nightmare. Then you need to be able to resolve having multiple overlapping memory if you have versions out and about doing stuff. Then you can multi task and consolidate memories without versions of you going rouge.

    Brain in jar with human meat puppet

    This one is similar to others but my original brain didnt die. This will similar to Jimmy in hard core Henry. Same issues with psychological aging but least your original self still exists.

    Can’t think of any others within realm of “science”.

        • kubofhromoslav@lemmy.world
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          3 months ago

          Strategies for engineered negligible senescence (SENS) is a framework conceived by the biogerontologist Dr. Aubrey de Grey. It classifies aging damage into couple of categories based off their similarities in a way that same kind of therapy (with some modification here and there) can be used too treat all problems in the category. Eg. cell loss (one of the categories) can be treated by stem cell therapy, but the precise procedure may be different when it comes to skin cells and heart cells.

          There were attempts to take the framework down but they failed from scientific point of view. They were mostly value statements masquerading as science, or strong claims with no evidence.