• intensely_human@lemm.ee
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    Movies are a couple hours long.

    In reality we don’t have a plot line. We have millions of plot lines on repetition.

    Real life morality means thinking about the really long term. And in the really long term the resistance fighters of the past are now the authoritarians you want to be a resistance fighter against.

    This is why people are skeptical of resistance fighters, and demand more of them than merely being in that position on the board. They have to be the right people, fighting for the right thing. And those people aren’t always the ones who look most romantic.

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    Most if not all of these have one side that is clearly in the wrong. Real life is more complicated. Conflicts are usually gray vs. grey, with both sides having identifiable faults and justifications. But even then, if you spent all your time seeing the world from the perspective of certain designated protagonists you’ll likely sympathize with them anyway.

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      It’s you. You’re acts are evil. Everyone else. Shit, I live on a miniscule amount as an art and do very well because I’m obscenely lucky and have good people in my life still does it’s magick syphoning my act’s mana for it’s purpose.

      They are the best people I’ve known but they’re still evil. What they do they call a job. It’s someone else’s will and you can carry as much of the right kinds of things to do but none will ever unwrite your actions as anything but literally evil synchronized in servitude.

      You want to not be evil? Burn the dollar. There is no need to damage people. Just the Talisman.

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      While this is undoubtedly true, I think OPs post misses the point for a more depressing reason, people generally believe what they’re told to believe, thinking about things is hard and most people are exhausted.

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    Imagine a movie where some random guys and a scientist need to find a cure to a zombie outbreak or some chemical attack. They did it, we saved the world, now people just have to take our medicine. Uhm, seems kinda rushed. Are zombies even real? My cousin said he knows a guy who worked with a guy who took it and now he’s blind from birth.

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      Yeah but in a movie there’s just as likely to be a twist that the medicine is what was turning people into zombies in the first place.

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    The fucked up part is that the right wingers think they are the resistance. And that the liberals are the evil empire trying to take over everything.

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      It’s like if the rebellion in Star Wars was fighting and sacrificing to get the emperor back in power.

      Just the latest in a long, long list of things in the real world that would be too stupid to put in a work of fiction.

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        Unironically, it was. That’s kind of the hidden message behind Star Wars - the rebel alliance’s full name is “the Alliance to Restore the Republic” - the Republic was never worth restoring. It was a corrupt, oppressive regime which at best allowed fascism to take over and at worst actively was itself fascist.

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      Lol, is this dude a right winger? I just assumed lefty commie based on the rhetoric. Clearly we need to lower taxes on the rich to solve the problem.

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        Clearly we need to lower taxes on the rich to solve the problem.

        This is what’s literally been happening since the early '80s. So far it’s not working out very well. And all those dipshits who want to roll back our country to the “Great Again” 1950’s and 60’s don’t seem to realize that that is when we had the absolute highest tax rate on the wealthy in the country. It was at almost 90% marginal tax rate.

        But no, you think what’s holding them back from spending their massive wealth is that the government is taking too much right now. 🙄 What a joke.

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    You were awake when your elementary school teacher taught you about the American Civil War, and you didn’t side with the resistance.

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      At this point, I alone am the fucking villain. I don’t CARE what you subscribe to. You can be a vegan solarpunk eco-terrorist, you can be a gun-weilding nutjub, you can be reasonable, you can be unreasonable, fuck it. I want you dead or me dead because I fucking hate all of humanity.

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    Despite being a Socialist sympathetic to Anarchism, I hate these fucking homilies. Movies, except for some labeled “nonfiction”, are not made to represent reality as it is. They are made to express an emotion. Of course, it’s important to note that good and evil do exist, and laws are not always good, but so what? This is just worthless to read! What have I really learned from this that I haven’t before? How does this help people achieve good? What’s new here?

    On an aesthetic note, I hate this tweet, and I have always hated Twitter, especially when it shows up on other sites. It’s been a problem since 2017. Putting “Wild.” at the end makes this snot look even more pretentious.

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      The maquis end up, in my opinion, as supremely unlikeable. Of course our exposure to them is through the federation lens, but in the abstract it is hard to understand how they can be the good guys.

      From what we understand, the federation is a post scarcity society due to replicators. The maquis origins, as I understand it, is that to broker peace between the federation and cardassians some planets swapped ownership. The maquis are the displaced people from planets that shifted to cardassian control.

      Ok, losing your planet sucks. Now whether or not these figures are sympathetic hinges on the federations accommodations to them. The federation offered to relocate them to other planets. They are federation citizens so they can go to any developed world in the federation or start a new colony, replicating whatever they need.

      How did they respond? By going “no this patch of land is super duper important for some reason that no one will ever be able to explain” and refuse to leave. Then they begin terrorizing the cardassians for trying to settle the planets that were agreed to. Threatening the peace and stability of a space utopia society because they want to hold their breathe and stamp their feet and not sit in a shuttle craft for a day and go to some other of the vast countless planets in the universe they have access to.

      Billions upon billions of federation and cardassian lives at risk so some jackass can keep farming a plot of land indistinguishable from the replacement plot of land he’s being offered for free. Oh and also he doesn’t fucking need to farm anything at all this is like a hobby or some shit because they have replicators.

      Sisko was right to launch the tricobalt devices at their colonies and the federation should enlisted him to go Sherman on those traitors.

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    It’s because they have happy endings. It gives the opposite effect due to that. The rebels win, everyone makes it out alive, we get to sit in the garden with our blonde children under a nice tree and never worry about saving the world again.

    It’s placating. Imagine going up to a Walmart and the doors are blocked with on fire cars, because the guys fighting for a union are not taking no for an answer, imagine the bosses office gets pipebombed, or moltov’d, that’s what it would take, people won’t go that far when they’re placated emotionally. Walmart goes to some very high extremes to fight unionizing, it would be horrible, they’d have to DO hazmats right, they’d have to stop the constant psychological warfare with their workers, they’d have to actually pay out a meaningful profit share not just $300 every quarter a head for a store that makes 2mil a day on average. It would mean they’d have to bring back middle management jobs to promote people to based on senority. Can you imagine?

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    Which resistance are we talking about? “The Resistance” movement in response to Trump’s election in 2016? Or “the resistance” which tried to overthrow the election on January 6, 2021? Sorry for being myopically American, but being American, I assume that’s what we’re always talking about.

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      The resistance of poor people getting all their money taken by the rich since it seems their greed has no limit.

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    I did watch Dexter and sided with a psychopath, but I wouldn’t in real life… or would I??? :-D

    Stupid take, I don’t know this person so not even sure which side he is talking about since all the sides use this argument precisely because people are stupid enough to make political decisions based on movies.

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      It sure wasn’t. The Republic was dying and didn’t care about things like slavery going on. Fuck the rebel scum!

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    I’ve seen some of my left wing friends and right wing friends post this meme, thinking that, of course, they are the one who sees the obvious.

    None of those who have posted it are particularly smart.

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        Is it normalcy resisting fascism or fascism resisting normalcy? Yeah the system needs changing but sure as fuck not from a fascist dictatorship built on lies and attacks.

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      Yep. It clearly illustrates their lack of understanding how nuanced politics and social issues are. If it’s that easy on TV, it should be so easy in reality, right?