I seen too many internet forums saying that if you don’t boycott X, Y, and Z, then you’re a “terrible person”. What do you think about that?
literally hitler! seriously though its an individual choice but all the same I see lines at chik fila and just think of pigs gathering for slop. So its basically a data point. The more someone knows you the less likely it matters.
Sometimes. If somebody claims to be a gay ally, but then eats at Chick-fil-A and shops at Target or Hobby Lobby, they’re not really being an ally. You’ve gotta put your money where your mouth is if you want any change in this world stop giving money to people that hate you.
Pretty clear you don’t actually understand anything about Chik-fil-A other than the things your chosen talking heads tell you
Chick fila a and hobby lobby for sure
Target will get a bit of leeway from me.
The other two are run by people who have actively funneled money towards shit like conversion therapy
Target, unless I’ve missed something, just kind of pulled their DEI initiatives, so while they’re not doing anything to make the situation better for LGBTQ people, they’re not trying to actively make shit worse for them either.
Also nothing chick fila a or hobby lobby sells is particularly essential, you don’t need craft supplies and fast food. Target at least sells basic essentials like clothes, groceries, medications, etc. and sometimes they’re the only or most affordable place in town to get those things, so I can’t exactly begrudge people for shopping there for those things unless I know there’s a better alternative.
If you can, you shouldn’t shop at target of course, but you gotta do what you gotta do.
I mean, Walmart is far worse than Target. People shit on Target now because they used to take a stand and then suddenly bailed like cowards. Walmart was born in evil, molded by it.
Only if they do something really crazy like willingly using Microsoft Teams.
I think people should boycott entities that they feel deserve it, but only to the extent that their financial situation warrants it. For example, I try to not buy from Amazon. I think everyone should do this, but I have the luxury of being able to afford paying more for the same thing bought elsewhere. Some people don’t, and that’s OK.
I agree with this. I would also add that sometimes time / convenience is a factor. I’ve a friend who orders from Amazon because she’s disabled; I’ve another friend who has three kids and she’s doing her online shopping for back-to-school late at night because that’s literally the only free time she has to do it and all the stores are closed.
I live on an island in Alaska, so my Amazon alternatives are usually Walmart, maybe Target… not a lot of others. If I can buy direct from the company I will, but a lot of times Amazon is the only real option (and no option to buy local).
Yep some people don’t have a lot of other options.
Excellent answer and example (Screw amazooon–they basically put a rent on books)
I judge people for many things, like all people do.
They say only God can judge me, and she seems to be okay with those people doing those things, so who am I to judge?
A people, that’s who.
I’ve learned that the vast vast vast majority of people don’t care. I can spend all my time hating everyone for being lazy and ordering daily items from Amazon, or eating Chick Fil A, or whatever, but I’ll end up hating 99% of the population. I don’t have time for that.
All I can do is focus on myself and what I spend my money on. Sure I educate where I can, but you don’t want to be the preachy person either, because they’ll just start ignoring you. Do what you can, but if you’re going to judge people for buying things - you’re going to judge everyone - and then that’s more on you.
Probably the most grounded answer here.
Would you not judge people for putting a gun to the head of a child and pulling the trigger?
Because buying from some companies is paying the salary and the bullets of the people who do exactly that.
When people are designated as “terrorists” you can even be held criminally liable under the current system, if you keep doing business with them. Shouldnt the same standard apply for people doing business with genocide?
Those are completely separate examples and you know it.
If you think that giving a murderer money so he can buy a gun to murder people with is not related to the act of murdering people, i would love to hear the explanation.
First of all, you’re demanding me answer something that is completely separate from the original argument. OP asked about judging other people for their purchases. You are asking about an action that presents direct violent harm, something completely different. Purchasing something from a company may support violence in some way, but purchasing an item may support the company’s practices, but it does not necessarily mean that every purchase directly funds those harmful actions. Your comparison is quite literally the “Appeal to Emotion” fallacy, it is not a good-faith argument, you are trying to present an emotional picture that isn’t relevant, and I won’t buy into it.
All the time on the internet this happens. Someone here put it very well. Someone can ask “What is 2+2” and a commenter will reply “4”. Someone else then will inevitably reply “Well what about 2+3?! You didn’t even consider it!”
The question was asked and answered, you’re asking something completely separate.
Agree. Except buying a new Tesla now. As a former Tesla owner, if you buy a new one now, fuck you. There is no excuse for ignorance here.
Agree there, Tesla is pretty dang obvious, and it’s a huge purchase. It’s not buying a non-organic tomato or a chicken sandwich, it’s very clear where the money goes, and you had to make a very clear conscious decision about it that you will be living with for years to come.
Well, no, not everyone is equally informed to begin with. And you can’t make such a blanket statement as “if you don’t live like I do you’re a terrible person”, reality is nuanced, always.
However , I will judge the hell out of them and add them to my mental lists of People Who Do This Or That. But no, they’re not necessarily terrible persons
Yeah, but to a lesser degree.
Only if consumption is conspicuous… like big concerts purchased via a parasite monopoly or their scalpers.
It’s one thing if they’re ignorant of the company they’re supporting but it they are knowingly supporting a morally bankrupt organization I judge them haaaard
Really depends on the reason. I will judge and call out anyone who gives a cent to JK Rowling, for example, whereas avoiding fast fashion is much harder.
The new Tesla model Y seems pretty great but I judge their drivers harshly. 100% of the people who drive one saw the nazi salute and still chose to buy a new car from him. If it weren’t for Elon ruining everything he touches I would really want one. I judge cybertruck drivers too but not as harshly, many of them bought it before we knew he was a nazi and they just have terrible taste in cars.
If they know better and there is no legit difficulty in not buying it then yes.
There is no reason why you would have to buy Coca Cola, McDonalds or other trashfood supporting genocide. There is no reason why you would have to buy Israeli anything. There is no reason why you would have to buy brands a Reebok or pay for Microsoft games.
Your employer forcing you to use Microsofot for work is a different matter.
If you do nonetheless, where you have no need to, you are choosing to support genocide and that makes you a terrible person and in a just world you would have to face criminal charges for it and have your money taken away to compensate the victims.
As the other commenter mentioned “there is no ethical consumption under capitalism” if you choose to boycott Reebok and instead purchase Nike you are instead “supporting” Uyghur Muslim slave labor. If instead of supporting McDonald’s you go to subway you are “supporting” Russias illegal war in Ukraine.
If you want to boycott the causes that are most important to you that’s great but thinking people should face criminal charges for being apathetic amongst a minefield of shit companies is ludicrous
As i said, where it is possible.
You loose 0 life quality by not buying trashfood. If you think that having the hottest fashion sneakers and trainers is more important than the literal life of other people, society should have an interest in locking you up. And obviously all the C-Levels that organize and commit these crimes should be locked up and have all their criminally hoarded wealth taken away.
Family member wanted to go to a store that was in the same strip mall as a Hobby Lobby and I was sitting in the car hating everybody that I saw going into that Christofascist rat den. Those assholes are part of the reason healthcare and insurance is so fucking abysmal and hostile to women.
If they know, and it’s not vital, and they don’t care, then I think less of them.
Some people have less self control than a toddler
