I guess some people thought it was AI, but just a cool moment in my basement window well.

Edit: taken with my iPhone several years ago since that’s all I had with me when it happened so quickly.

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    I got banned because I told everybody who was mocking that retarded weather guy to stop mocking him.

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        I think he’s that Canadian dude on the coast and he’s super zealous.

        I remember a huge like 20,000+ vote thread where people were just outright mocking him to his face, knowing that he’s not aware he’s being mocked.

        I stood up to shame people and I got the shit beat out of me then banned.

        Yeah it’s all fine for thousands of people to mock a person with an intellectual disability, that’s totally fine /s

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    Looks like AI to me. Why are there pinecone reflections on what appears to be a concrete wall in the back?

    I’d love to see another photo of this basement window well.

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      When you don’t understand how anything works, everything seems like a conspiracy AI

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      It’s not, the needles or whatever are way to consistent, even in the darker areas. AI would have fucked all that up

      Also, it’s a basement well window, I have one of these as well. So OP would be standing on the side of the window in his house and the pinecone is on the other side in the fire escape well

      Think of it like looking into a really big terrarium

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      “Please provide proof of authenticity before I allow myself to enjoy this picture.”

      I don’t get the ideological hate for gen-AI - especially when it comes to visual art. All I care about is whether I enjoy looking at it or not. I couldn’t care less who or what made it.

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        There is something special about photography. Photographs capture something real, a physical point in time. What you see really existed.

        The problem with AI slop is that it gets better by the day and if you want to appreciate that single physical point in time that a photo represents, knowing that makes it special in ways that AI is not.

        Likewise, created art is a window into someone’s mind and soul. Knowing this also makes those works special in ways that AI is not.

        That said, the way certain communities crusade against AI is hurting actual, human artists. Especially those whose work skews toward the surreal. That is not ethical behavior and needs to be curbed.

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      Just for fun I tried reproducing this with chatgpt and it consistently messes up aligning the light beam with its illuminated patch no matter what I try. They always fail on the weirdest details

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      that’s exactly why it’s not AI. AI wouldn’t replicate the glass half-reflection that well. and the background is clearly the outside forest, nobody’s having pinecones detritus and plants in their own basement except that greenthumbsman from _goosebumps _

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    To be fair, I totally understand why people think it’s AI. Between the phone camera processes and the extreme postprocessing, this looks more deep fried than some memes I’ve seen. It almost looks like it’s got a cartoon filter applied.

    Add on the fact that OP is trying hard to down play how much editing has been done, it starts to feel like it doesn’t add up. If OP posted the unedited photo to show the bad phone sharpening and admitted how much editing was done on top of that, people would understand what they are looking at.

    Don’t get me wrong, it looks cool, but when someone says “oh, no I just took this with my phone”, I look at that and think that’s not the whole truth.

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      Thanks for your meaningful, informed, and helpful contribution.

      Of course it’s edited. Pro tip: every image is edited. Nothing anyone sees is raw from the sensor. It’s all completely arbitrary. Even people who shoot film show edited photos, they just offload the editing to the film lab. Someone else is doing the processing for them.

      Even direct from a digital camera to jpeg, the camera is performing countless transformations and adjustment s before burning to jpeg. See film emulations on Fuji cameras for example.

      The entire point of photography is to present to people a compelling vision that feels the way you did when you saw it.

      That being said, this is basic curve and a vignette.

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          I mean, it’s basic settings in like every fucking phone for the last 15 years? Get over yourselves - you aren’t judges at National Geographic photographer of the year, it’s a neat pic dude wanted to share.

          Let people share neat things.

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          I mean even your sentence is edited. Nobody forms a true thought without altering it in their mind. Talking is the art of representing the thoughts and atoms in your brain in the way we want you to see it. Literally everything is a lie. So lying is always morally acceptable. /s

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          I’m a photographer and imaging specialist. I’ve built capture systems and processing pipelines and projectors. Literally nothing is raw. But do go on.

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        The interesting part about doing a vignette is that it shows up in ELA when you run it through any one of the dozen doctored image detector websites, the re-encode around the changes shows up in the data when it inspects them, this image has zero error level deviation.

        That’s interesting because it also doesn’t appear as AI at all through the AI detection tests. But here you’re saying it’s actually edited. Maybe the CDN was heavy-handed enough to destroy the ELA. Zip up your edited copy and give that to the masses. The nay-sayers can run it through Fotoforensics and see it’s manually edited. You have already passed all the AI detection pages with 0% AI probability.

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      I don’t think its silly at all, even tho I think this image is real I still applaud the zero tolerance rule enforcement.

      The reason this got removed isn’t that mods are powertripping, its because AI is such a menace. Place blame where it belongs.

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        Hard dissent. First, Ban content not users. But even if you are banning users, just a quick detour through OPs history would have been enough to see it as a legit account, with a human behind it… Plus, the picture surely has proving metadata, and detailed pixels.

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          I wish being a legit account headed by a real person were enough to guarantee AI won’t be posted, but Lemmy is a testament against that.

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    I have a mental image of you in a basement sweatshop in Philadelphia- the air is full of smoke and there’s a constant barrage of German speeches and gunfire being played over the loudspeaker, broken only by the occasional steam whistle. You take a longing glance out the window, wishing you were on one of the higher floors so you could jump. And there is it.

    Pinecone.

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    Too much HDR. I can see why they thought it’s AI.

    Still a nice shot. The composion and framing is nice.

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      Honestly, deep fried images usually give me a headache but this one is actually pretty nice. I think the horrible HDR gives it a painting like quality.

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        It’s not HDR, it’s a single shot and no tone mapping has been done. Just levels adjustment that could have been done in a physical darkroom.

        The number of things that confuse people in this image really surprises me, but I’m assuming you’re talking about the light beam, which is the sun raking concrete at a very sharp angle. The detail it’s exposing on the concrete is actually just like that, even in the raw image.

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          HDR would have oversaturated the colors of the little green plants popping up. I don’t know what people are on about there.

          Personally, I think HDR works best for images that are almost devoid of color. Like I did the one below of the pillars at the Wisconsin state capitol:

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          people nowadays are really reactionary and stupid.

          the whole anti-AI clusterfuck is just the tip of the iceberg.

          if someone doesn’t immediately understand something now instead of asking good questions they reflexively start to regurgitate whatever shit in their head lit up the moment they realized their ignorance.

          it’s gonna be the literal death of us all, and no one takes it seriously. people are genuinely incapable of critical thinking now and it isn’t some shitty ego thing to acknowledge it. i’ve stopped caring if i offend people over this, tbh. their latent disrespect for knowledge and rationalism offends me.

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      It’s not HDR. It’s a single shot, slightly underexposed so we don’t lose the highlight detail. The rest of the work could have been done in a physical darkroom. But thank you.

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        I think it’s just that the iPhone processing gives it a certain look that people associate with ai for possibly incorrect reasons.