• Honytawk@lemmy.zip
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    4 months ago

    The real reason is because dish washer water is freaking filthy until the last spray off.

    You don’t want to see that shit and eat off it afterwards.

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        Dishwasher is regularly recirculating dirty, greasy water before rinsing. In order to save water, it just cycles the water with all the dirt through the dishes again, many times over. And only then rinses with a pure one.

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          I know how dishwasher works. I mean I don’t see why I wouldn’t want to look at that. It is interesting regardless.

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            An average person doesn’t want to see this and doesn’t know it happens, which would potentially tank the reviews for the device.

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            Most people prefer ignorance to seeing their flatware get sprayed with filthy water. They’d say “eww that’s disgusting” and hand wash everything from now on.

            It’s because of this recirculation that dishwashers consume significantly less water than hand washing.

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              But people use same water when handwashing too. One sinkful of soapy water first where you wash them, then a sinkful of clean water for rinsing and put them in the drying rack to dry. I believe the significantly is a debatable.

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                Modern dishwashers have to use less than 5 gallons of water for a normal load. To get the Energy Star rating, that has to be 3 gallons.

                A typical two-basin, 33 inch kitchen sink, each basin measures 16in x 14in. Each inch of depth in each basin is approximately 1 gallon. To fill up both basins to a depth of 5 inches, that would take 9.6 gallons, more than 3x more than an Energy Star dishwasher.

                So yes, significantly.

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          They rinse for like 15 minutes, then pump that off and get new water for the water, pump that off, and get a clean rinse.

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        I feel like I prefer Technology Connections. Steve Mold never seems to go into all the details

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        Date idea: a nice dinner, followed by the feature-length Technology Connections Dishwasher Anthology

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            I said it as a joke, but honestly…cooking something together with a special someone then sharing a bottle of wine that guy absolutely roasts the very concept of detergent pods sounds like a great night

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                That’s one of very few channels that both me and my brother in law share. We often ask each other if we follow one channel or another. He made a comment about Christmas light colour that made me ask

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    Obviously, the dishwasher manufacturers don’t want us to know about the gnomes.
    Gnomes with cleaning equipment.

    And when your dishes don’t get very clean, that’s because the gnomes partied a bit too hard the night before and just aren’t up to their normal standards.

    Hmm. That’s also a great name for a punk band. Dishwasher Gnomes.
    Going to trademark that right now.

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    It’s useful to see the others, not sure how useful it would be to see inside a dishwasher. Could be fun though. Also probably is cheaper not to have it and could be better insulation.

    Same reason fridges probably don’t have windows even though that’d actually be handy. I once saw someone post about how their really expensive fridge actually has a window, but their mom put a curtain in front of it because seeing inside the fridge looked “messy”. What a travesty

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        If you open a front-load washer in the middle of its wash cycle, it would dump 5–10 gallons (editors note: however much that is) of dirty, soapy water all over the floor. That’s bad - so the manufacturer designs a window so that you can see that the machine is empty of water before opening the door.

        I guess it’s for that reason. Dishwashers could have similar problems but they might have a lot less water in them at one time and with the type of doors they have you might not dump as much on the floor or something.

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          Front loading washing machine doors are automatically locked during the wash cycle.

          They often have an emergency release mechanism (pull string behind a cover or similar)

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            Some are. Modern ones definitely, older ones most likely. Not all though. Guess how I know…

            Also I wonder what the situation was at the time they introduced those glass windows.

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          Dishwashers don’t fill up - they just have a well at the bottom (below the height of the door) and they spray water over the dishes to rinse of the dirt.

          Washing machines need to fill up and soak the clothes so that they get everywhere, not just the outer layer.

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            No they don’t, that’s why front loaders use so much less water

            • a top loader fills up the tub so the clothes are under water
            • my front loader

            — slaps the clothes into the puddle of water to clean

            — to soak, lightly sprays on top while tumbling back and forth so they all get wet without ever being under water

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            I was thinking that was the case. So makes sense why one would have a window and one doesn’t, from “spilling water on the floor” sense.

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        Only side loading ones. You don’t need a window for top loading ones and none have it.

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    Watching food cook is appetizing and also a necessity to know when it is done. Watching the slurry of fat, food rests and soap is not.

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        To check the progress before electric displays and fancy indicator lights. Windows came before those upgrades when machines were still dial controlled.

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            That’s what I still use and it does not. I have zero reason to know what’s going on inside however because it literally operates on the equivalent of a kitchen egg timer. It’s done when the dial says it’s done. All controls are entirely mechanical. Washing machine is older than I am. I bet the damn thing is 50 years old.

            Edit: Same as this one which seems to be a model from the 70s.

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              Because people liked the feature. Look, I’m just saying WHY they added windows. That was the reason. I’m not saying it’s a good reason or no one could figure things out before. They added them for that reason, people liked it, and it stuck around. Yet, there’s always gonna be someone dragging out their 30 year old washer going “but mine is fine!”. Never said it wasn’t. Or someone pointing out that not all washers have a window even today. Cool. Nifty. But if yours does have one, that was the reason they got added.

              Congrats on having an ancient machine with no variable timing that finishes early and being able to look in tells you what step it’s on easily at a glance instead of staring at your worn away knob. Good for you. Was it relevant at all to the discussion about why they added windows to machines that do?

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                Yes, it was relevant to the comment I replied to. It was an off topic segue that’s common in the nature of what we call threaded discussions. That you feel you should copy and paste your response as if it’s a personal attack to you or your argument is quite perplexing, but everybody’s got their own way of seeing the world yeah?

                Also, the thing is actually controlled by the knob’s timer. There’s no such thing as finishing early, the knob is what tells it to do a rinse cycle or whatever. You can set it at different points in order to make it do different things and it ticks away along it’s cycle because of that. You hit switches to change the amount of water you use and select different start times based on the soiling and load size. It’s pretty rad for a dinosaur, though you do have to make decisions that you might not have to make with an electronic high efficiency washer.

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            Because people liked the feature. Look, I’m just saying WHY they added windows. That was the reason. I’m not saying it’s a good reason or no one could figure things out before. They added them for that reason, people liked it, and it stuck around. Yet, there’s always gonna be someone dragging out their 30 year old washer going “but mine is fine!”. Never said it wasn’t. Or someone pointing out that not all washers have a window even today. Cool. Nifty. But if yours does have one, that was the reason they got added.

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      Maybe for you. They put windows on cloths machines and people watch the heck out of those, let me watch the dishes clean.

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    I got a new dishwasher that has a “glass front door”. I paid extra for the glass door for this reason - I want to see it. But guess what - hahaha - the glass door is simply placed over metal and you can’t see shit.

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    I’d assume it isn’t see through because you load it up with dirty dishes that sit for days before you run it. No one wants to spend days staring at the crusty spoon meemaw dipped in the peanut butter and licked like an ice cream cone before the wash is finally run

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        People who don’t make a lot of dirty dishes? Running a dishwasher that is not full wastes water and energy. When I was single I would only run the dishwasher twice a week or so.

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        Modern dishwashers can easily clean tons of crust. That’s why it takes them so long. As long as bigger chunks are gone and you clean the trap you are fine.

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        I have twelve dinner plates. Often I’ll use two a day (my partner doesn’t share my allergies or diet and mostly uses bowls)

        We have many hot drink mugs

        We have twelve sets of cutlery

        The dishwasher runs when we run out of clean [plates|cups|cutlery] that is weekly or less often

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    I think it just might be because the seal around the glass would inevitably fail from constant thermal expansion during normal use, thus leaking all over the damn place.

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        Ovens don’t have a bunch of high pressure water sprayers in them. They just leak hot air at worst.

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          ‘Just hot air’ is a bit of an understatement. Mine goes to 500°C during a cleaning cycle. It physically locks the door so you can’t open it when it does this. My dishwasher I can open at any time.

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            Fun fact you can hack a self-cleaning oven to use the hellfire temperature of 500 ° F to make good ass thin crust pizza!

            you have to figure out how to bypass the door lock, use a pizza stone, and put the pizza as high up in the oven as possible. but you can get a damn good thin crust pizza with enough creative engineering and some experimentation.

            recommended to try this project in winter as it dumps loads of heat in the house lol