• John Richard@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    I mean, can you blame them? If someone waves their arm that doesn’t make them a Nazi. It only empowers Trump when people overreact to everything. If Elon is saying Heil Hitler or publicly saying he is a Nazi, that is different. However, waving an arm doesn’t make someone a Nazi & is ridiculous if you think about it. I’m so tired of stupid PC police trying to claim everything is offensive.

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      2 months ago

      He done it twice and repeated a version of the 14-words after it, thanking them for securing the nations future.

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      2 months ago

      He did the salute. And talked about the Great Replacement Theory. And endorsed the fucking AfD. And named himself Kekius Maximus.

      He’s a Nazi, Jack, wake up.

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      2 months ago

      remember guys, it’s only a nazi if they do a nazi salute while saying “heil hitler I’m a nazi kill all jews and other minorities” just like it’s only a racist if they’re burning a cross and yelling the hard R and saying “I’m a racist”, but only if they do it all at the same time. 2 out of 3 doesnt qualify.

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      2 months ago

      Have you seen the video? He did an unmistakable Nazi salute to the crowd, then turned around and did the same Nazi salute towards the USA flag. This was as Sieg heil as Nazi salutes come.

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        2 months ago

        I heard giving a peace sign means your pro Hamas. Clearly if you give a peace sign that means you support Hamas.

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          What the hell are you on about?

          Elon Musk does an unmistakable Nazi salute, you claim he was just “waving”, despite there not even having been a waving motion, just the one swing from left shoulder to full extended right arm, which is a textbook Nazi salute. And now you come with whataboutism about Hamas and I don’t even know what’s the point of it.

          What kind of troll are you?

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          2 months ago

          I know you wanted to be sarcastic but you ended up not making any sense.

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        2 months ago

        In no time ever has a Nazi gripped their heart like that before reaching out their hand. I just went through countless videos of fucking Nazis to confirm this. Stop spreading misinformation /disinformation

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          2 months ago

          So a Nazi salute has to be totally historically accurate for you to see it for what it is, but you can “give your heart” to an audience with a hand raised and downturned and you have no issue with that explanation? If you give, your hand is generally upturned. That is the gesture. Golly gosh I wonder why he did it that way instead 🤔🤔🤔 total mystery.

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          So according to you, Elon Musk has his heart in his upper left side longue, close to his left shoulder. Sounds like one special kind of human.

          And if that’s just waving, then why according to you did he wave to the American flag? Is that just how south-africans salute the usa flag, by “waving” at it?

          And I also call bullshit on the claim of having watched countless videos. If you had, then you had seen a much greater variety of Nazi salutes. Nazis as they got older and/or higher in the Nazi hierarchy, they became sloppier with the Nazi salutes. Sometimes the mind is willing, but the body says no.

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      2 months ago

      If this kind of greeting is so much in your standard repertoire that you just accidentally without thinking go for it in such a moment… Then it is not the “stupid PC police trying to claim everything is offensive”. It is offensive. Which normal person does that?

      Edit: I mean, seriously, look at this

      Taken from https://lemmy.world/post/24527348 I just include it here in case that post is deleted.

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        Those are very different positions & movements even. Really you’re stretching here. Include audio of him saying “Heil Hitler” or “I’m a Nazi” and you’ve got something, but right now you have someone moving their hand, waiving, doing a karate chop, or whatever. No arm movement makes anyone a Nazi unless they also proclaim they’re a Nazi. That’s just not how it works. What is next, a peace sign suddenly means your pro-Hamas? Winking means you are anti-trans? Thumbs up means your a racist? That is how the stupid PC police works.

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          I can totally see the difference. One is in colour and the other is in black & white. Ergo, not a Nazi salute. Got it.

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          Go into work today and do this to everyone you see then. And don’t half ass it. Straight arm, hand down, up at an angle. Direct eye contact too.

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          “Guys, guys. Since Musk isn’t from Germany, he’s not a Nazi! It’s just sparkling fascism! Totally different!”

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          Nice gaslight attempt.

          Context matters. This is a man futzing around with the far right in Germany, specifically, right now. The movement made is sharp, exact. It is what it looks like it is.

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          Never trust someone with two first names. Been following that advice my entire life and I’ve yet to find an exception, they’re always a piece of shit and usually prove that very quickly.

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            No, actually I’m not. No arm movement makes someone a Nazi. It’d be so funny if you traveled back in time on the year 1000 & started calling people Nazis for the way they moved their arms. It is dumb to claim that & it makes people so easy to troll if they are that susceptible to anything. “You have to fire my coworker. They moved their arm in a way & they are a Nazi.” “HR: Have they said they hate Jewish people or told you specifically that they are a Nazi?” “No, they just moved their arm.”

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          Elon could come out in a SS uniform and you’d probably just suggest he’s really into historical reenactment, give me a fuckin break.

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      2 months ago

      Cool. What is your walkaround for the crap he’s pulling in Germany’s politics right now, with their far right?

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      2 months ago

      You voted for Stein. You don’t get opinions, bitch. At least vote for the person you’re choosing to elect you spineless piece of shit.

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        2 months ago

        Wow, so authoritarian & oppressive with a keyboard. The fascist in you is showing. It was projection all along. In person though, you’d cower & eat a shit sandwich if the Democrats told you to like the good little cult follower you are.

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          No, that’s not me. I’ve spent my life in activism upstanding those with less privileges and brawling with the NYPD tearing down barricades throughout the 90s, beginning with them beating my ass as a child. I also spent my youth beating the shit out of guys bigger than me. What have you ever done in your life to stand up for anything you espouse?

          Now shut the fuck up with your glass jaw tough guy because someone is going to break your skull with that keyboard one day. Better watch who you mouth offline with that attitude keyboard warrior… You don’t count anymore. You chose not to count. Stop fighting with strangers to deal with your guilt you fucking snowflake cuck bitch. You’re not welcome here.

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            Lol you are projecting your authoritarian fantasies cause you were abused as a child? You want to feel like you can fight back & could have stopped it. Was it your parents that beat you or maybe an uncle took gratification in it? I’m sorry you were abused but it is no excuse for the wannabe violent fascist thug you’ve become. You’d get your ass beat again and have to go through the trauma again. I just don’t think you’d be able to handle it. You’re better off finding peace & love from within. It’s okay that you’re built smaller or weaker than others. You can find a hobby or job that brings you some joy.

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          May i ask, why you spend so much time today defending musk doing the facist salute?

          I mean you could have done many more productive things, why white knighting the allegedly richest man in the world?

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          2 months ago

          Democrats aren’t dressed in Biden or Kamala gear head to toe. You’ve got it wrong where the cult behavior is. And easily so.

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            2 months ago

            What does the Biden shit sandwich taste like? Some ice cream mixed with Alzheimers, genocide, and some oligarchy sprinkled on top?