• Furbag@lemmy.world
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    This is a great example of the importance of teaching people critical thinking skills.

    If you stop to analyze what was written in this sensationalized post rather than acting on your emotions, the first question that should come into mind is “who stopped them?”. There are no checkpoints between Oregon and California where cars are turned away from crossing state lines due to emissions. In fact, that would probably violate federal free travel laws which would supercede any stupid law like that.

    Next, consider the source. Is this person trustworthy? Did they provide ample citations to reputable journalistic outlets that verified the factuality of the claims? If not, they may be trying to decide you with falsehoods or have an ulterior motive for misrepresenting the facts. At best they are repeating claims that they’ve heard from others and anything they report on should be taken with a grain of salt.

    This post doesn’t hold up to the slightest amount of scrutiny, but people get fooled every day by crap like this. My advice is that if you hear something that sounds outrageous or too good to be true, stop and think carefully about it for a few minutes, or maybe just wait for another source to report it. Saves you a lot of stress and protects you from endlessly doomscrolling.

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      The firetrucks were allowed through but Haitian immigrants ate them!

      You expect too much from these people, and an increasing share of them aren’t genuine people at all.

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        The firetrucks were allowed through but Haitian immigrants ate them!

        That sounds reasonable and matches what the Big Red Squid told me on TV after last nights meth binge.

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      A friend of mine posted something on Facebook (reposted from a local list in Arizona) claiming that two people were knocking on doors and beating up people, and one woman was in the hospital as a result. Pictures of the perpetrators and everything.

      Something felt off, so I did a quick search on their names. And I found an article from some city in Texas where the same rumor had been circulating about that area. The article clarified that the two people had committed some crimes several years ago and were caught, tried, and convicted already.

      So someone took one of these, changed the name of the area, and posted it to the local list. Why do people do this? A form of stochastic terrorism maybe?

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        I have noticed this as well. Back during the early facebook years, a “news” outlet would just generate content by posting stories like “Greenville ranked as the city with highest crime rate” every week or so.

        Everybody on my facebook feed would go crazy saying things like “I always knew that town was dangerous, but to hear it outranks New York? TERRIFYING!”

        Only issue is that this outlet would have 50 different URLs for the article, all giving a city in a different state (always an immigrant heavy suburb) and those articles would be appear around facebook and nobody would know the wiser.

        It costs almost nothing for them to rewrite the world and your perspective about it. The granularity they are now capable of should give us pause.

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          Interesting. This one didn’t include a link to an article, just fear mongering.

          The person that posted it deleted it after my comment, I think. I’ll check.

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        Where I live I mostly see this done to support the narrative that immigrants are bad, that you can’t trust traditional media, and that you should be voting for the local fascist party.

        Afaik the place names and date are not changed here, I suspect because that would make the perpetrators criminally liable. Instead they work by omission: take a many years old crime, don’t mention the date but instead post it on facebook as if it only recently happened, in that post question why the media isn’t mentioning this event or how the non-fascist politicians could let things get this much out of control, and then boost the post with help from others in the telegram group so that it reaches a wider audience.

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        I assume the people in the picture were “melanin enriched”? There you have your answer.

        It’s a shame that you can’t know when seeing such posts if the person resharing it has good intentions or not. “Don’t open your door for strangers” is often good advice after all.

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      “who stopped them?”. There are no checkpoints between Oregon and California

      … actually, there are checkpoints along every major roadway into California that do check incoming vehicles, mostly to find and prevent invasive species from entering the state and affecting the agricultural industry, and more broadly to protect the environmental systems in California. There have, in fact, been legal challenges against these checkpoints for violating travel laws, but the checkpoints have remained. They’ve also been used to seize non-agricultural items like weed, weapons smuggling, etc. so emissions standards checking isn’t completely out of the realm.

      Obviously, she’s lying and she doesn’t know any of this either anyway. But there are checkpoints to enter California.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Border_Protection_Stations

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        I can’t speak for all of them, but the I5 border station near the Oregon border hasn’t even been manned in several years. This gal is so full of shit.

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          The station on Highway 97 has someone there, they’ve always just waved me through and said “have a nice day” i think they stop and inspect the agricultural trucks that go through there, tho.

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        I go through one all the time there has not been anyone there stopping people for years now

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        Yeah, you’re right, but you also conveniently cut out the second half of my sentence where I specifically mentioned being turned away for emissions. Context matters.

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          As long as a car is registered and insured they have the right to drive in any state

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      Additionally, Washington, Oregon, California, and BC (this one has to have some sort of international limitations) have a climate pact with eachother to adopt emission and climate policies set by the other states/province.

      Out of all the states that CA would have emissions issues with, OR would not be one of them.

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      Teaching critical thinking skills it not a solution. People are not getting fooled, they want to believe it, it fills an emotional need.

      Neo-liberal solutions to societal issues focusing on individuals has been a complete disaster. It is basically victim blaming and doesn’t actually scale in many circumstances.

      Eg. High house prices; Victims fault for not working harder and saving more. Neo-liberal solution: Work longer, spend way less. Outcome at scale: Economy crashes due to low spending.

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        I agree with the rest, buy

        Teaching critical thinking skills it not a solution. People are not getting fooled, they want to believe it, it fills an emotional need.

        Yes. Properly taught critical thinking overrides the emotional thinking. If it didn’t, people wouldn’t anymore then animals.

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          That’s the thing, people don’t want to. Critical thinking for one it takes more physical energy, which is a impediment. People want to belong as it can be very difficult to thrive being excluded, so there can be an advantage to just go along with the dominate narrative. Hence why we are getting a onslaught of propaganda like this twitter post.

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      Sometimes I wonder how much better the world could be if I had the power to snap my fingers and everybody on the planet knows that confirmation bias exists and it’s a big deal.

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    Why do these people want everyone to get out of California? Maybe they’ll move to where you live and start voting there. Or their secret plan is if everyone moves away they can then move in?

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    Twitter is a right-wing propaganda platform now. Why is everyone surprised by this?

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      Who is surprised? People are upset. The two are not the same reaction.

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    Ah yes, the notorious CA Border Control keeping visitors out. Make sure you bring your CA visa if you want to enter the state. 🙄

    These people are fucking off the charts insane.

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    AI is going to make misinformation a 100 times worse. There really needs to be laws with bot usage on social media and data privacy laws.

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    You know how cheaters ruin online games? How their fun relies on fucking everyone, abusing the system and winning without respecting the rules? The same applies to people like her, trump, musk, etc. They’re “communication cheaters”, they don’t respect the rules, they abuse the system, yet platforms want us to believe that they deserve to be treated like common users.

    “Waah waah mah 🧊 🍑 waah waah censorship” - Fuck you. If free speech was a game, these people would be banned.

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    Alright, I’ve read enough here… My conclusion; California fire IS gay.

    Now, don’t get up and clap. This was figured fair and square via research. I scrolled endlessly and stopped when I saw the appropriate comment that supported my hip-O-thesis.

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    Meanwhile conservatives are working overtime on further dividing the nation with false information.

    Humans are truly vile creatures.

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    I can’t believe Biden and Obama started these fires. With their energy weapons. And now they aren’t doing anything to put them out. Trump would have had the fires out before they started. The dems aren’t even using aircraft or people….those videos on the news are fake AI.

    -Some MAGA probably

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    The problem is that the original tweet will have been seen by many more users than the reply. And knowing what the public is like…

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    Bot? How do we know that isn’t just another of Elon’s alts?

    I suppose somebody could check if she’s called him a good father recently…