how do we even come back from this
The French had a similar issue in the tail end of the 1700’s, perhaps we could draw inspiration from their work.
I plan to move somewhere where this isnt a problem. If Im going to live in a capitalist society Im going to exercise my free market choice to choose somewhere better than the McDonalds being run by geriatric conspiracy theorists
This eventually gets CIA’d. There is no escape but slaying the dragon.
At the risk of being called an accelerationist, the fact of the matter is that the only way out is through.
I just assume things cannot be controlled, there is no direction, and the majority of the human race will be swimming in lies, disinformation and cat memes fur generations
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Fur real? I think you’re purrbably right.
I, for one, welcome our fur baby overlords.
The s is hopeful.
A generation maybe.
Twitter is a right-wing propaganda platform now. Why is everyone surprised by this?
Who is surprised? People are upset. The two are not the same reaction.
Right wingers haven’t cared about the truth for decades. It’s just now they don’t don’t care whether we know it or not. Just think back to Trump’s first term and “alternate truths” and all that. They don’t care anymore. They believe what they want to believe, and no amount of facts or reasoning is going to change it.
But yes, everyone lies. Some people just more than others and some will lie to your face with a smirk on their face knowing damn well you know they’re lying.
since they repealed the Fairness Doctrine (not that it was perfect) in the late 80s when they realized that balanced reporting was one of the things that forced Nixon’s resignation
You know how cheaters ruin online games? How their fun relies on fucking everyone, abusing the system and winning without respecting the rules? The same applies to people like her, trump, musk, etc. They’re “communication cheaters”, they don’t respect the rules, they abuse the system, yet platforms want us to believe that they deserve to be treated like common users.
“Waah waah mah 🧊 🍑 waah waah censorship” - Fuck you. If free speech was a game, these people would be banned.
AI is going to make misinformation a 100 times worse. There really needs to be laws with bot usage on social media and data privacy laws.
Too late. It’s already become true, and another example of wokeness for your racist uncle to bang on about.
This is exactly why so many things just feel hopeless to me. The worst people have caught on to, and the parrots don’t even realize, that you can just say literally anything and the occupants of your echo chamber will believe it immediately and then refuse to believe whatever reality actually is if it is presented to them by literally any other “outsider.”
Hell even someone of the “in-group” who is not substantial enough will be outed as an “other” if they dare go against the initial message.
The knock-on effects of this also concern me. Largely, the only effective way I’ve seen to battle disinformation is to retreat to smaller spaces. The intensity and engagement driven content loop on all the major platforms just fuels the fire. Ultimately, to achieve a better admin:user ratio where the admins aren’t idiots. While I wax nostalgic about my former BBS days, it feels like a giant step backwards to that. The quality on content is there and signal:noise ratio is sublime, but the amount of information, level of discourse, and widespread geographic socialization, isn’t.
Since the election, I’ve retreated from most news sources and reddit. I kind of realized that more or less every headline was either a lie, clickbait, or blowing up a story that largely doesn’t matter. I honestly haven’t felt more relaxed in years.
Fucking Californian wokies! They made fire gay!
They don’t call it flaming for nothing!
Should be Shitter’s responsibility to fact check them but nope gotta make the folks in harm’s way handle it themselves apparently.
Like it’s stupid how easy it is to make up misinformation and disinformation, compared to how much effort it takes to refute it. Humanity is doomed.
I could just as easily say: “The Oregon fire department couldn’t get to the fires in time because they had been stopped by immigrant caravans, woke transgender hitchhikers and antifa mobs!!!”
Oh god, don’t give the Directed Unethical Mass Blatherers Aiming Shit Streams Errantly Steadily any easy copy/paste material.
It also spreads so much faster; I’ll always hear the lie from someone before I get the chance to look it up for myself, so I can’t refute it.
Gish Gallup
Any one who believes it should heed her advice and get out.
2100 retweets on the lie.
33 on the truth.Everything the right says is a lie.
I can’t believe Biden and Obama started these fires. With their energy weapons. And now they aren’t doing anything to put them out. Trump would have had the fires out before they started. The dems aren’t even using aircraft or people….those videos on the news are fake AI.
-Some MAGA probably
I mean I wouldn’t ever live in California, but not because of what these talking maga skin piles keep saying. I just revise to live in a disaster-prone region. I mean California has a fire season. Fuuuuuck that. Same goes for hurricane territory.
It didn’t used to be anything like this. Hell, when I was younger it would rain in June. Climate change.
Well, let us know when you find somewhere that doesn’t have fire season, earthquakes, tornado season, hurricane season, blizzards, or avalanches.
Join us in the mid-Atlantic!
Tsunami season
The midwest.
Arizona mostly. Fires are pretty rare in the valley.
Mmm. Forgot about droughts and pavement hit enough to cook eggs on.
What is the average daily temp in the summer?
At 2am it’ll get down to 101-100…worst thing I ever did in Phoenix was get in a drunken argument mid afternoon and storm out of the house…made it half a block and was dead from the heat…quickest getting over an argument I’ve ever had.
Mila Joy fucks DONKEYS*.
Mila Joy is a HORSE FUCKER*.
Leave Xhitter while you can.
*It’s true, because lols
Twitter. It will always be Twitter
Nah fam… twitter dead.
Nah fam… twitter dead.
Nah fam… twitter dead.
This is not “false” this is just “pants on fire lying”
This person should not have the freedom to speak publicly anymore
Screw freedom of expression as we currently have it. Freedom of expression should become a right with responsibility. if you can’t be responsible, you can’t have the right. You either speak the truth or don’t get to speak to groups, period
I’m SO done with literally everyone and everything lying with zero repercussions. Companies lie, all fine. Politicians lie like there is no tomorrow and that’s fiiiiine, even Obama lied like 25% and that’s fiiiiine, trump literally lies 99% of the time and it’s all fine! Nothing happens, so we just lie more and more and you can’t trust anything or anyone anymore
Freedom of expression on the internet was a big mistake
It’s not freedom of expression that’s the issue here; it’s the devaluation of responsible public influence such as (but not limited to) quality journalism. Lots of news agencies that used to be reputable are either going out of business or getting bought out by shady people. Hicks (I should know) have always been able to stand at the edge of their property yelling bullshit. The problem is people started listening and putting them up in the town square to yell bullshit (sometimes they even get paid!).
Indeed.
If every time the press quoted somebody they gave right alongside it a count of past occasions when they were caught lying, there would a lot less lying because people would be reading their quote, looking at the count of lies next to it and mentally going “bullshit!” for the big liars.
The excess lying going around is because the liars take advantage of people being physically unable of keeping track of the liar-levels and lies they’ve been caught on of all the “media personalities” (humans are only capable of managing at best around 200 relationships with other entities, so not just family and friends but also personalities one has an opinion about and even brands).
Part of the reason the Press won’t do that is because so many of them are also liars (in the sense that they’re actual vehicles for Propaganda rather than having Journalistic integrity) but also in many countries legislation such as Anti-slander Legislation means that if they point people’s lies out they can get sued, which is costly even if they win, whilst if they say only good things they get no legal costs, so the whole field is tilted towards painting well know personalities wi the the means or influence to sue news media in a positive light - in other words, the system is designed to protect well connect or rich liars and conmen from being exposed in the most widely circulated media.
Who decides what is true though? In China the gov’t ensures no ‘misinformation’ is spread on their social platforms… Is something like that a good solution for you?
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OOF?
Every lie we tell incurs a debt to the truth. Sooner or later, that debt is paid.
