Conveniences, automation, safety plans, etc. Everyone loves winging it and having piles of chores, but then they complain about life being hard, but then they don’t change anything

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    This is a bit too vague for me, but I think some of what you mention sounds like inconvenience now for future convenience. For safety plan example, it’s mildly inconvenient for me to get my kit together (I live in an earthquake-heavy area and just outside the tsunami hazard zone), know locations and routes, etc. but you’d best believe that it’s better to pay that inconvenience now than flap if I do have to evacuate. I think timescales are important to think of (kinda like the RoI of your actions).

  • I love to simplify my life, and add automation, but lately all of it is just more and more ads, more and more AI nonsense that doesn’t work, and the rest are half baked ideas that also don’t work half the time, so honestly, if things automation, I’ll keep my old fashioned life where I do more things which work fine and I don’t have stupid ads , clueless AI, or half-baked features that don’t really solve anything.

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    Because a human who doesn’t move their body becomes miserable and unhealthy. Zero is not a good level of activity.

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      Yeah because you move your body sooooo much sitting in a car and walking slower than a newborn snail in Costco, instead of working out at a gym, walking at a park, playing Just Dance, walking your dog, etc.

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          Slow.

          I’m saying, Costco customers are moving slow as shit because the store is crowded. When they could just order online instead of buying a membership for the privilege of basically sitting in traffic with shopping carts.

          You don’t NEED to pay yearly for Amazon prime. And at the time I made multiple accounts and used the free trial on each. AND gift cards from surveys apps.

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    I’ve read the whole threads. I am interested in a brief, short summary of what you have automated. If I’ve read correctly, you hate going to the grocery, so this is automated? How? What else is automated?

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      I buy all my groceries with Amazon Subscribe and Save. I don’t get a lot of fresh/frozen stuff, and when I do, it’s usually unnecessary things I wanted like ice cream. I’ll gladly ride a scooter to a supermarket for exactly one ice cream quart and nothing else, spending literally 6 minutes including standing on the self checkout line and purchasing.

      My light turns off automatically 5 minutes after the time I depart for work, if it’s on at that time.

      My fan, heater, and wax warmer are connected to Alexa on my fire TV and phone. The wax warmer is on a smart plug and automatically turns off after 5 hours.

      I take out MY trash when leaving for the gym. MY trash is already gathered in one bag, so taking it out and putting in a new bag is just an extra minute. I do this only when leaving for the gym and NOT work, so life is easier. Getting to the gym a minute late is not an issue, getting to the train station a minute late can mean I can’t make it to work. Obviously I don’t leave that late, BUT if I do, I still make it without forgetting to take out trash.

      I put my clothes in the washer before getting in the shower, and put it in the dryer before departing for the gym. This way, when I come back from the gym, I can bring my laundry back into my bedroom and hang it up (the most effort). And now I have zero chores to do for the rest of the week, I can work in peace, come home and do nothing (after successfully escaping family who refuses to listen to me)

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        Sounds like you eat trash. Most of what I buy from the grocery store is fresh or frozen, pretty much everything else is a slow boring flavorless heavy salted death. I haven’t found a service that can automate my grocery shopping to my satisfaction and frankly I wouldn’t want to. My weekly meal planning happens in the vegetable department based on what in season, available locally, looks appetizing, etc.

        It also sounds like you live alone, not having to contend with other people’s changing schedules and laundry needs.

        You’re automated “easy” life sounds like an empty void. I’m not convinced you’re “living” your life at all, just killing time.

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          Honestly I eat restaurant food most of the time as I don’t live alone and cooking while living with family is harder than fist fighting a polar bear while having no arms. It’s either trash like taco bell (nothing else is open) or healthier locally owned things/“fancy” places.

          When I live alone I’ll use Amazon Fresh for fresh and frozen stuff or probably try a service like Factor.

          No one does their laundry, or is awake, between 1 and 6 in the morning I realized. And if I miss that window there is another where no one is at home, but I prefer to be home when They are out. I could do fresh delivery at that time to avoid The Family’s Wrath™ when I get groceries with 30 minutes of using my phone and unload them into my mini fridge in 5 minutes which is So Unfair!!! because they have to spend over 24 hours for the same result.

          I’m living as much as I can with family. When I cut ties I’ll live to the fullest. But now, aside from saving and overtime, my goals are launching some shopify side hustles, making some games, going to the gym on my off days, and climbing the amazon corporate ladder while also doing free college through their program. Then I’ll do a lot more hobbies, more than making and playing games lol. I want to get into streaming… games. And more.

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    I don’t think people are, but the major factor is cost here - both in money and time. Getting a maid, a nanny, a dog walker, paying extra for delivery, paying for apps, more expensive automation products (e.g., hue) etc. etc.

    All of this costs money, and a lot of time to research & test. Not everyone has that.

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      Yeah but those aren’t the only choices available. Hue is literally the Cybertruck of smart lights. It’s fucking stupid. Instacart is counterproductive. You’re still tethered to a phone instead of just being able to relax or do something else like walk your own damn dog. Amazon fresh now costs more, but it’ll pay for itself when you’re not spending more than the monthly fee to buy gas to commute to a store to buy the same things for the same markup. And even if it costs more, time spent NOT doing something stressful is worth it. Ditch that stupid ass costco membership it’s fucking pointless buying bulk produce to eat less than 5% of and throw out the rest. Definitely worth commuting for hours! So stupid.

      My first smart strip light required some research I quickly did when I impulse bought it for same day delivery. The WS2811 strip needed a compatible controller and the controller needed a power supply. Bought those three things so easily as a complete newbie, set it up with Alexa and my fire TV so I could control it with the TV remote and my phone and everything. The controller I had was ass though, was only hue (actual hue, not the brand) based with no saturation. I bought a WS2811 compatible Alexa compatible 16-million color controller for like $16, and now my strip has 16 million colors. Oh, and I never need to worry about leaving it on or turning it off. It turns off automatically 5 minutes after I leave for work if it’s on at the time.

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      Then achieve it. Adulthood has limitless opportunity. Are you over 18? Then achieve it. If not, then suffer in happy prison until it’s over.

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            I think you grossly overestimate my competence. Some people can do what you say, some people just work til they die and have a shit life.

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              If you don’t want to work until you die then don’t. I’ve lived in a situation where the only way out is death, and I only got out because my horrible ass mother saw I had the potential to make her rich. Otherwise I’d be locked away in a group home for a disorder I never had until I killed myself.

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    Automating labor without ensuring it doesn’t impact people’s ability to obtain needs and wants is objectively worse than them continuing to work

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      I’m not talking about work as in jobs, I’m talking about housework. Everyone has at least five jobs, taking care of their home is four of them.

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        I’ll complain endlessly about the state of modern society, with social media and constant screen bombardment. But the other day:

        The dishwasher was running.

        The robovac was running.

        The washing machine and dryer were running.

        The magic litter box was cleaning itself.

        I sat back and cracked a beer.

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          Yes, this is the way. Watch TV. Play a game. Play an instrument. Sleep. Write stories. Draw. Do online courses. Make a game. Create jewelry. Visit a park. Lay around and do nothing. LIVE. Why spend this time manually doing what a mindless robot can do?

          Now go further. Use Amazon Subscribe & Save to buy non-Fresh groceries automatically every month. It can be set as frequent as every week to every 6 months. Set and forget. Sell your car. Spend more time for yourself instead of trying to impress God.

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            Eh. Fuck Amazon and fuck Jeff Bezos. Use your free time to go to a farmers market and buy staples from somebody who’s not a shithead.

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              Use my free time to go to a farmers market to buy produce from finance bros who bought from costco and are selling it at a markup acting like they’re “foreign” alongside “handmade” jewelry bought in bulk from Temu and AliExpress? I’d rather use the service that gave me a job and the opportunity to grow even more. I didn’t need a degree or diploma to work at Amazon. (I graduated high school, it’s just that the diploma has a gross embarrassing ugly birth name that I wish to cut out of my life) I didn’t need references or anything else that would have brought my horrible past into relevancy. And I’ll be able to take college courses all free, and I get $$$ this holiday season on TOP of overtime pay. All of this opportunity given to me, a rando who went to hiring.amazon.com and picked up an available shift. I have no merit. (well I do but I hide it lol) I’m a loser. A mistake. Scum. Yet I’m making $22/hour bringing in $1000 a week after taxes with 55 hours. Tell me more about this shithead who is much worse than actual scammers on the street manipulating your empathy to sell overpriced “organic” “fresh picked” produce bought from costco.

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    Because all those nice-to-haves and conveniences in vehicles make it harder and more costly to repair.

    Today a classmate showed me the mechanism for the gas door opener her company manufactures (assembles). It’s a bunch of rods, a motor, a control board, springs, cables, etc, that run throughout the vehicle.

    The fuel door on my '99 Cherokee?
    A hinge and a spring.

    This is obviously one small example but i feel that this example of over-engineering for very little benefit extrapolates well.

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      Imagine just not having a vehicle lol imagine spending less than $1000 once and being able to get around oh right that’s horrible we should buy huge metal boxes that require government licenses that cost so much, and fuel that costs oh so much, and complain about not having money. Right, that bitch on a bike is the reason why you have no money, not the fact you spend ten times the amount you accuse young people of spending on Starbucks on an inferior travel method. A developed country is not where the poor have cars, it’s where the rich use public transit.

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          You would flatten a child to wait in a McDonald’s drive thru a minute earlier but I’m miserable on my scooter and bike okay sure Jan. Imagine riding a bike in a park, that’s so horrible, you should ride a fake bike with a video of a park instead. Those TVs should have fake wind as well. And while you’re at it, project a fake window gif onto your wall. Cars ruin cities.

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            Dude, did you miss a med, or something? There’s unhinged, and then there’s whatever the fuck i just read. A ferret on meth wouldn’t be able to keep up with this line of “reasoning.”

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              No I grew up neglected by family, abused in an institution, and dehumanized by society until I changed my name 3 years ago. I also hate cars.

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        A developed country is not where the poor have cars, it’s where the rich use public transit.

        Tangentially, this cracker of a quote is from the mayor of Bogotá IIRC. It is very accurate and I’ve often used it too.

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        It is absolutely not safe to ride a bike in my city. I live in a third world country and the roads are not lit well, and the busses ride in the bike lanes as if they were not there.

        In fact, the bike lane on the cities main road through the city put the turning lanes in the bike lanes, so good luck not getting hit by a car from behind.

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          Honestly in my area cyclists are hated more than Osama bin Laden so I can sort of relate to it being unsafe. I know being in a car would be way worse for my mental health though. Do what’s safe and easiest, and never forget what car companies stole from you. Cars ruined your city, so big companies can get more money. Big companies selling an inferior travel method. Cars are primitive, reliable eco friendly public transit is the future.

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    I opened the thread thinking, “this has to be a bait post where the op just soapboxes about how much better at life they are than everyone else, and argues with literally everyone offering perspective” and I’m glad to see I was not wrong! Boy if your replies aren’t some of the least self aware, most elitist stuff I’ve seen here so far.

    I dunno man, why doesn’t everyone with actual problems just ahh, buy an Android phone, learn how to program or do whatever the hell else you think everyone should be doing to just simply live the obviously better life that you have?

    Oh wait, not everyone has the same opportunities as everyone else, and so not only may these options be unavailable to a lot of people, they may also be completely useless in solving someone’s difficult life.

    You sound like a Tech Bro in their early twenties who landed a sweet job out of college (that they didn’t pay for) and wonders why people choose to be homeless. And before you try to correct me, that’s what you sound like, so unless that’s the persona you wanna give off, maybe try to listen to what people are saying instead of trying to find out how they’re wrong.

    Do you really think people with “difficult lives” are so stressed out because they forgot to take the garbage out multiple times? Seriously? Christ 😂

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      I opened the thread thinking, “this has to be a bait post where the op just soapboxes about how much better at life they are than everyone else, and argues with literally everyone offering perspective” and I’m glad to see I was not wrong! Boy if your replies aren’t some of the least self aware, most elitist stuff I’ve seen here so far.

      bruh what. I’m just traumatized, not elitist.

      I dunno man, why doesn’t everyone with actual problems just ahh, buy an Android phone, learn how to program or do whatever the hell else you think everyone should be doing to just simply live the obviously better life that you have?

      That’s ONE solution out of countless. I’m saying anyone can make a solution that works for themselves whether it’s tech based or not.

      Oh wait, not everyone has the same opportunities as everyone else, and so not only may these options be unavailable to a lot of people, they may also be completely useless in solving someone’s difficult life.

      Everyone has the opportunity to improve their lives. If you’re working and making money then you can make your life exactly the way you want it to be. It takes time and effort, yeah, but it’s not impossible.

      You sound like a Tech Bro in their early twenties who landed a sweet job out of college (that they didn’t pay for) and wonders why people choose to be homeless. And before you try to correct me, that’s what you sound like, so unless that’s the persona you wanna give off, maybe try to listen to what people are saying instead of trying to find out how they’re wrong.

      Nah I’m a 27 year old who was locked away for 20 years, and I’ve only got to live and experience life for 3 years. I landed a sweet job at ✨ Amazon ✨ I do love technology (well, technology that isn’t stupid) and I think “homeless” should mean primarily renting an apartment. Having zero shelter shouldn’t have a word, it shouldn’t be a thing.

      Do you really think people with “difficult lives” are so stressed out because they forgot to take the garbage out multiple times? Seriously? Christ 😂

      That was quite literally my family. Or, is. Is my family. Yet they refuse to just… Take out the trash earlier so they don’t need to remember right before they sleep like the countless months of consecutive weeks of forgetting. They complain about having no time for anything but refuse to order online instead of going to two Targets, two Costcos, Bj’s, Walmart, Stop & Shop, Walgreens, Aldi, Lidl, and five international stores in the same day for fifteen hours, back to back Saturday and Sunday, and having to wait until Monday night to sleep. You know, to buy the same things you could buy from Amazon or from those stores as a delivery order. There are other things they can do that they just don’t do, and blame me, the person wanting things to be easier, for ALL of the problems caused by them not wanting to change because God didn’t make lazy people. God STILL didn’t drop a tree on me or kill me with lightning like I demand every day. Stop trying to impress a concept.

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        JuST oRdEr onLinE

        You HAVE to realize that there are people who can’t even afford the groceries in the first place?! Not everyone is your mom wasting money on stuff they can’t afford! Some people don’t have it in the first place!

        After this I’m convinced you’ve never seen a single actual difficult day in your life, sorry. To say that you’re “traumatized” by having too much food in the fridge and spending too much money on buying stuff is fucking hilarious, though.

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          I know that obviously. Those people aren’t doing that crazy shit. But they can make life easier with planned meals and an easy routine, why deliberately make your life harder?

          And this just reminds me of how that fucking bitch took so much food from food banks and never used it ffs. Every Monday a church had an open pantry, that bitch forced everyone to go stand in line separately to get extra. I hated standing in lines so I’d spend every Monday at a library until 7pm and take the long way home for 2 hours. I never actually saw the pantry or what came from it, just the line.

          I was abused and neglected as a kid. I had brand name clothes, but smelled bad and only ever ate top ramen and cup noodles. All of that wasted produce was that woman’s. DRINKS were never available. No juice, tea, etc. If I was thirsty I would pretend to shower or wash my hands and drink the bathroom water.

          I was institutionalized for a disorder I never had. That woman lied to get me in the institution, and they made me stagnate and regress. I’ve only lived 3 years of my 27 year life. No one believed I was neglected because mommy is rich and I have clothes with old men’s names on them. They’d assume the 8 year old kid is at fault for having no lunch, no signed permission slips, bad BO, filthy hair, etc. Like I chose to be that way. How can I be suffering when my shirt says Abercrombie? Neglect from rich parents is horrendous.

          I couldn’t buy my own body wash until I started doing paid surveys at 15 years old (lied my age on PayPal and the site) and dog sitting at 17 on wag & rover. Before that, I used to steal the trial sizes and stretch them as long as I could.

          So I’m fighting CPTSD and trying to cut ties and move out. Praise Amazon.

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              Yeah, being spit on and manhandled by adults as a 7 year old kid every other day in “school” does that to you. You’re broke? But your shirt has a man on a horse! You’re rich and spoiled. How could you have ran out of soap months ago when you’re wearing a polo ralphy whatever shirt? Maybe get less Airopostale and buy soap, so easy!

              Yeah, thing is, my mother would spend a couple of grands on stupid ugly brand clothes, while screaming at me to shut up about body wash and juice. It’s “why do you come to school smelling horrendous” AND “why do you think you deserve body wash when there are people who have nothing?”

              Today I wear ZERO brands and I finally get to shower with soap, drink juice, and brush my teeth with toothpaste. Childhood is the worst part of life.

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      Good its not just me.

      Thank god my smart phone can spell sanctimonious for me, its made my life so much easier.

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    I am going to come across like a condescending dick here, but real talk: Does Amazon have an EAP for access to counseling or therapy? If so, and you’re not leveraging it already, I think you would benefit from doing so.

    I agree with some the sentiment you present in this thread, if not all aspects/means (the points about simplifying aspects of your life in general are well taken), but if you’re not trolling even a little bit it sounds like you’re suffering a lot.

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      It costs the same amount as overcomplicated lives. And if you’re saving so much money by living on cup noodles and 4 hours of sleep a week, you wouldn’t have much time to use it.

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    They’re fucking stupid as hell. Also there’s people that just hate change even if it’s in their favor. The rest are pretending to be stupid because they are benifited by the status quo

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    The one thing that every human has in common is their ability to complain about anything, an alien race could come and solve every single problem on earth, with every single need want or desire fulfilled and we’d still complain.

    We thrive on complaining, we need to complain.

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      I’d agree with you but your post is way too long! Uuuuugh! I almost burned a whole calorie writing this reply!