• niktemadur@lemmy.world
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    28 days ago

    It doesn’t matter. It won’t compel any of these mouth-breathing, lazy bOtH pArTiEs ArE tHe SaMe LoL retards to go out and vote Democrat. Nothing will.

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      28 days ago

      There are large number of Puerto Ricans in many swing states (+ important downballot races), and Republicans have been trying to court their vote. This isn’t doing them any favors

      Peurto Ricans by state

      • Pennsylvania: 450k
      • North Carolina: 100k
      • Wisconsin: 65k
      • Michigan: 50k
      • Florida: 1.1 million
      • New York: 1 million

      It doesn’t even have to change minds all that much to matter. If any trump-leaning Puerto Ricans just don’t turnout, it matters a lot

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        Of course I hope you are right, but if after the past decade and everything that has happened, that has been said, this election seems to be in a dead heat instead of Harris/Waltz winning by anything other than a landslide, I hold no illusions about the intelligence and decency of the “average” american voter, these people are already dead inside, or at least not too far removed from illiterate medieval peasants, easily dazzled by bullshit and god-kings with magic political wands… abraca-fucking-dabra.

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    28 days ago

    So is Donald Trump “presidential” yet? Trump will never get a bigger or better venue than Madison Square Garden between now and the election and THIS is the stupid shit he is going with.

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      28 days ago

      Are they? Are they really? Puerto Rico still isn’t allowed to be it’s own state

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        Are they? Are they really?

        Yes they really are. They are U.S. citizens who are disenfranchised based on location.

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          Yeah, maybe it wasn’t entirely clear there but I was trying to say that they were treated as second class citizens that can pay taxes but can’t vote becit of where they live

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            You do know that has nothing to do with being of Puerto Rican ethnicity, right? It has to do with living on Puerto Rico. You can be a citizen of Indonesian descent who lives on Puerto Rico and you still can’t vote for president. But that person, and all of the other U.S. citizens making up the population of Puerto Rico can just hop on a plane or a boat and come to the continental U.S. (or even Hawaii or Alaska), no passport needed, move there without any immigration issues, and vote in the next presidential election.

            It doesn’t matter what your ethnicity is.

            You also can’t vote for president if you live on American Samoa or Guam.

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              I thought that was what I said, but having said that, does any of that make sense to you?Puerto Rico is US territory, you should be able to vote. Same for Samoa and other territories

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        Puerto Rican statehood is more complicated than that. Becoming a state is a contentious issue even amongst Puerto Ricans.

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          27 days ago

          Is it?

          I had friends there for a long time, they all basically either wanted the US out or had it be a US state, anything but this in between nothing that they’re in now

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              A 2019 Gallup poll found 83% of Democrats in the US, but only 35% of Republicans, supported Puerto Rican statehood. A 2020 survey by International Policy Digest found that “The majority of Democrats showed support for statehood for both D.C. (61.8%) and Puerto Rico (69.7%)” while among Republicans, only 26.7% supported D.C. statehood and 34.8% supported Puerto Rican statehood.

              That speaks volumes.

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        They are still U S. citizens, just not citizens of any state. Same thing can happen if you are born in DC or a military base not in a state.

        American Samoans are the ones that really get screwed. They are just U S. nationals. All the responsibilities of citizens (including the draft when it exists) but not all of the benefits.

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          It was kind of my point that they were treated as second class citizens, like Samoans, just because of where they were born. Puerto Rico should be it’s own state already

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            I think maybe the text of your post did not convey that sentiment, particularly given the reliability of Poe’s Law. Perhaps in the future, you might include a visible indicator that you are using satire?

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        What a weird place this instance is.
        The explanation for those not in the know.

        Puerto Ricans are USA citizens they can vote for president but They can not vote on the president from Puerto Rico. They are natural born US citizens can’t vote for president in the place of their birth. This is because of many reasons.

        So they have to move and become residents of not Puerto Rico, but a different state, to vote for president.

        So they do not have the same rights as other US citizens because of where they live. This is unique in the united states.

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          I mean, it’s not because they’re Puerto Rican, it’s because they live in Puerto Rico. Someone from Iowa who moved to Puerto Rico would also not get a vote.
          This is because our system allocates votes to land, not people.
          US citizens don’t get to vote for president. They get to vote for who their place of residence votes for.

          Up until the 60s, people in DC also didn’t get a vote, because by default only states get a vote, and it’s explicitly not a state.

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    Well they can’t vote for president. Unless the move to to the fifty states of confusion.

    Right after Hurricane Irma hit Puerto Rico in 2017 I was at the local dount shop. All the local cofee drinker/maga’s were there and this one POS was going on and on about how none of those filthy people were gonna come here and live off his tax dollars. It was so stupid that I laughed. This dipshit asked me with a swagger in his voice what was so funny. I informed him that any one of them could get on a plane and come to the US. As soon as they changed their drivers license address they could register to vote. One of two of his asshole buddies confirmed that it was true and he was simply floored. Flummoxed is the best way to describe him.

    He reminded me of this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmvR0VkYuDs

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    This was such a weird choice, when the GOP was already getting more Latino support than previously… Wouldn’t they want to court these people? Why would they straight up insult an entire voting bloc (one that experts have said could decide the outcome) this close to an election??

    I know it’s most likely just racism and stupidity, but I couldn’t help but think that this dude did this on purpose to get less people to vote Republican? I mean, why else would they do this?

    I previously knew this dude from his name, as the guy who writes most people’s (particularly non-comedians) insult jokes at Roasts. I’m kind of surprised (but not really, I believe he hangs/hung around Rogan) he’s a Trump supporter given the type of material he’s written in the past.

    I’m not a fan of Roasts, but I’m pretty sure this dude was supposed to be considered like the best at that. At least previously.

    Maybe someone who knows more about this guy can weigh in on it. It’s probably just racism if I’m being real.

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      All humans are trash. There’s this misconception that poor people are better humans. They’re not, they’re just powerless.

      In this case, if you take a person with almost nothing and tell them some with less is going to take what they have…

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      27 days ago

      This changes nothing. Not a single Trump voter changed their minds. The Trump Puerto Ricans agree with this. They just think it’s the ‘others’ fault.

      This may even get them TO vote since someone sees the ‘problems’ they live with. This is how EVERY group that votes Trump against their own interest feel.

      spoiler

      They 100% don’t know they are included with the ‘problem’

      VOTE

    • Semi-Hemi-Lemmygod@lemmy.world
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      28 days ago

      After the 2012 loss to Obama, the RNC commissioned an investigation into what they could do better. It said, effectively, stop being racist, embrace immigrants, and ease off on abortion.

      They promptly threw it in the garbage.

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    I used to know someone who is half Puerto Rican, her dad is a marine, her mom is full PR. And they are ALL hardcore right wingers.

    Even they wouldn’t switch votes after this.

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    all the retarded takes in this post is the reason many have come to hate lemmy. you guys do get that he’s a comedian doing an act at a conference, right?

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        I would like to know that. I would also like to know what the joke the same fuck told at the same event about black people carving Jack-o-Lanterns out of watermelons was.

        I hope @[email protected] can enlighten us as to what both jokes are.

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          According to the modlog, his comment was about how “all the r-slur takes in this thread are why many people hate lemmy, and you guys do get that he’s a comedian doing an act at a conference, right?”

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        Isn’t even an original joke, the meme of trash island in the Atlantic is old as hell, Google “England” for more information.

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        According to the modlog, they posted

        “all the [r-slur] takes in this post is the reason many have come to hate lemmy. you guys do get that he’s a comedian doing an act at a conference, right?”

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          Yeah, that’s great. What’s the point of the moderator removing a comment if somebody like you is going to come along and repost it?

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            What’s the point of having a modlog that allows anyone to publicly see the comment that was removed?

            The purpose was to show that they weren’t making some off-colored joke, as some suggested, but rather making a hateful statement in general. It was removed for violating rule 5. I censored out the slur, so if the mods want to remove my comment, they will. Feel free to ask them to do so.

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        I think the joke was “I hate minorities, this is my unironic view! Race war now, if it aint white it’s not right, white power!” which, is about as funny as a child with terminal illness, which is to say… Not very funny at all, and is in fact quite a serious matter that should be taken as such.

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    Tony Hinchcliffe is not funny. Watched his podcast for a while then totally abandoned it because I realized I wasn’t laughing during most episodes. It’s mostly seasoned comics taking cheap shots at amateurs and then saying some racist shit while they all laugh and no one in the audience does. His nasally voice is annoying as fuck and hitching his wagon to the trump train seems pretty on brand for that fuckwit. His comedy brand caters to the same people who really like Joe Rogan and Alex Jones, both regulars on the podcast. Shocking I know.

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      He’s auditioning for a job with Shaprio’s outfit, or some other similar conservative shitpile. It’s not a coincidence that 99% of Right Wing grifters are failures in the entertainment business. Failed actors, comedians, screenwriters, musicians. They’re all narcissists, and more than a little psychopathic. They all think cruelty = comedy. They’re shitty human beings who should be ostracized.

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      No it is not. Guaranteed Trump Puerto Rican voters agree. They just think it’s the other Puerto Ricians that are making it that way.

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            An estimated 5.8 million Hispanics of Puerto Rican origin lived in the United States in 2021

            337 million in the US.

            I wouldn’t call 1.7% spread across 50 states significant.

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              1.7% is more than enough to flip some swing states. Most swing states.

              And two in particular have more than an average number of Puerto Ricans.

              So yeah, it matters.

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            1.7% nationally isn’t much when spread out. I’m sure there are districts out there which are predominantly Puerto Rican, I just don’t think they’re a significantly large group.

            Which is why I fully support making them a state and giving them due representation.

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              In a close election, any decent percentage matters and they are not spread out evenly at all. For instance, there are 500,000 in Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania was won by only 42k in 2016

              Plus a million in Florida - that can make the florida senate race a little more competitive. New York downballot races are a big part of why dems lost the house in 2022, and there’s also around a million in New York

              They should certainly have representation, yes, but that’s not to say the Puerto Ricans in swing states / competitive downballot won’t matter either

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    They’re absolutely terrified of Puerto Rican statehood, so they try to drive them away.

    Little piss-baby cowards.

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    Tony, Chapelle, and Joe Rogan are actively murdering comedy. They blame everyone but themselves because they can’t get with the times. They look down on people and punch down constantly, and still manage to miss the mark. They are not down to earth, they are not relatable, and they should NOT be looked up to.

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      That’s spot on.

      If you look at actual funny people, they’ve worked out a way to do it without being heavily racist.

      If you look at shows like Brooklyn 99, they did an amazing job at respecting everyone whilst being hilarious. The parts of this nonsense I saw, was just cringe. It seemed like they were trying more to advertise racism than going for humor, because even my mates are funnier and they’re not professionals

      It feels like they were probably surrounded by yes men their whole lives so have lost touch