Is that Kill Tony?
It’s Tony Hinchcliffe at a recent MAGA rally in New York City.
Yup thats what he does… roast mfs! I dont understand how everyone on lemmy is losing their mind over 1 joke!
The context is important. Republicans are openly racists, and this is a rally for Donald Trump presidency. This isn’t a badly lit comedy room
People who attend these events know who will be performing. Kill tony constantly brings black/hispanic comics on his show so Im very confused by what you are trying to say. All republicans are not racist.
“I am not racist because I have black friends”. This is how you sound.
The presidential nominee for the GOP is openly racist, sexist and a fascist. By choosing DJT as a nominee, you cannot dissociate the rascim from the party. If you are still a member of the GOP and/or vote for Trump, at best, you enable racism.
So yeah, going to the GOP rally shitting on Puerto Ricans, you are most definitely racist.
How I sound to you maybe, but that doesnt matter. Remember all this over a joke… get over your self!
And yet, most racists are Republicans. Weird.
Did you know you can interact with other races while still being racist?
Do you still believe that racism means that you actively are trying to kill another race?
He is openly bigoted, it’s not an act. Just watch his show. When he is drunk it all comes out, including his self-hating for being gay
Its comedy but it sounds like you dont like that type of comedy. No one is being racist to people who willingly went to a show that kill tony would be on. Nothing I can do if it hurts your fragile feelings.
Comedy isn’t a free pass to be a racist piece of shit.
For those that didn’t know before that Tony Hinchliffe is a racist Republican, now they know and can choose for themselves what they want to do about that. You can go and suck Tony’s dick.
It’s just a joke get over it!
How many jokes about Christians or conservatives did he do? Zero?! Why’s that? Answer those questions.
This isn’t even good racism. This is like, 2000s-era ironic racism. Which was about as funny as Holocaust jokes, and aged about as well as Anne Frank.
Where’s the hateful, KKK, lynchmob racism? Don’t just casually half ass it. Show your real murican colors.
Why even say this? What a useless shitbag.
To them, cruelty is comedy.
They’re absolutely terrified of Puerto Rican statehood, so they try to drive them away.
Little piss-baby cowards.
Tony, Chapelle, and Joe Rogan are actively murdering comedy. They blame everyone but themselves because they can’t get with the times. They look down on people and punch down constantly, and still manage to miss the mark. They are not down to earth, they are not relatable, and they should NOT be looked up to.
That’s spot on.
If you look at actual funny people, they’ve worked out a way to do it without being heavily racist.
If you look at shows like Brooklyn 99, they did an amazing job at respecting everyone whilst being hilarious. The parts of this nonsense I saw, was just cringe. It seemed like they were trying more to advertise racism than going for humor, because even my mates are funnier and they’re not professionals
It feels like they were probably surrounded by yes men their whole lives so have lost touch
They can’t vote, so why would they care? Easy targets, no apparent consequences.
Puerto Ricans can and do move and there’s large numbers of them in swing states. There’s 450 thousand just in Pennsylvania
Yeah, I was being mildly satirical. Insulting any people group seems like it should be a losing move. I wish it were.
They’re just bullies.
You couldn’t invent a band of chucklefucks more capable at torpedoing a presidential campaign…and yet here we are, tied, with apparently no ability to sway any voters away from Trump. It’s so demoralizing.
Except for the millions of Puerto Ricans that live in the Continental US.
Yeah I’m on board, I was attempting some mild satire.
If they don’t live in Pennsylvania, Arizona or Nevada, they also don’t count.
Why the /s?
That’s literally the point. Easy target, plus they’re brown people i/e “Not Real Americans”
Bone stock Republican shit.
“We’re The Real Americans!” while flying the confederate flag.
Completely without irony. Absolutely destitute of self reflection.
I guess in this case the /s is for satire.
What a fucking cunt Jesus Christ. The racist rhetoric has really stepped up these past few months since there’s been 0 consequences
The joke only works if you understand that it’s not true and that no one can obviously believe it.
If it’s done where you and everyone thinks it’s true, you’re at a Klan rally or probably at the comedy mothership or something.
Is that Tony of the show Kill Tony?
Oh god, so stupid
Piece of shit human trash calls Puerto Rico “trash”. Republicans are shit 💩
I’m sure insulting puerto rico will really help ðeir ambition of winning ð state wið ð largest population of puerto ricans outside ð island itself!
You all are thirsty for hate god damn. leave them alone they are not doing anything wrong.
Wow, I can’t believe ðere are so many people here who would downvote someone just for using variant orþography. SMH.
yeah those people would not survive in ma pona pi toki pona. tons of variant orthography there
Would not survive in <unreadable gibberish>?
You can learn to read and write þat fluently in about 5 days
(I’m sorry but I’m dying to know, whats up with ‘ð’ ?)
It’s ð letter which represents ð soft ‘th’ sound ð way þ represents ð hard version. Like B and P but if we had just accepted representing boþ wið an fh for some reason.
You’ve got þat backwards… Þorne is þe unvoiced letter, as in þem or boþ, whereas eð is þe voiced, as in faðer.
Source: A semester of Old West Norse language class (wherein þorne and eð are used in the same way as in English).
Old English was never consistent about the difference between thorn (þorn) and eth (eð), and they were used interchangeably in English writing.
(Unlike Icelandic, where þ is consistently the unvoiced sound and ð is the voiced sound.)
…I get what you’re saying but…“þem”? You pronounce ðat unvoiced?
Þink þis depends on dialect, because boþ sound correct to me.
Edit: added more þorns
Fair enough
Where am I right now?
At one of the many crossroads in your life where you have to decide whether to commit violence or maintain inner peace.
Whatcha typing there buddy? TH isn’t good enough for you?
NO IT ISN’T! Launches into multiparagraph long rant about ð importation of ð Gutenberg press mid GVS ruined English spelling to a similar extent to Thai and Tibetan spelling
I’m not one of the people who downvoted you. I like your passion. But maybe this is one of those things we can deal with after we’ve got a handle on climate change.
Yes please
Probably, but Imma do my þing anyways until ðen. I’m not pushing ð change institutionally by a longshot, just writing to my own sense of jollies.
Interesting. Curious – beyond the historical linguistic context, do you find yourself using ðis style because you’re deeply passionate about these language quirks, or is it also a way to make your writing stand out? Or perhaps it’s a bit of boð, or something different?
I genuinely just do it because I find writing ðis way fun, and þink ð letters should make a comeback (along wið a host of oðer orþographic reforms viewable in my profile).
Not like I’m going out of my way to force oðers to use ðem ðough, so ð sheer vitriol I’ve caught for it has honestly made me double down over ð belief ðat people so devoted to ð status quo as to become enraged over a goddamned letter should spend ðeir lives mad about it until all ðat wasted anger kills ðem.
Are you not the one fighting to go back to the previous status quo? Are you not the one fighting change, something that language naturally goes through over time? What is your problem with change? Why do you want to make communication more difficult than it already is?
The only reason English abandonned the letters ð and þ is because we switched to using the French alphabet. I’m not sure I would describe that as natural change.
I’m not fighting for shit but my own right to write as I please wiðout being accosted for it as if ð þorn was used to anally rape someone’s moðer.
“as if o porn was used to anally rape someone’s mooer”
I see.
Speaking for Americans, we absolutely have the right to publish anything legal on any infrastructure that allows it.
It’s quirky, and I am pretty quirky myself. Still, I would copy and paste one or two of your sentences into some language model to be sure I fully understood you.
A gentle request for clarity in your communications might be appropriate if one deems it prudent. Vitriol is a little over the line - the style is certainly not offensive. To address the specific wording on your point about rights, we would probably agree freedom from criticism is not a right, though we would also agree that extreme attacks are unnecessary.
more blah blah
I have visited a couple of forums over the years whose rules included English only. Each time, the rule was for the benefit of the community. Hey, I just had an idea: text in a spoiler tag could be used to hide a little glossary, so everyone would know the modern spellings of the old-school words you used. Or, if it’s easier, simply copying the message a second time and using modern spellings would be another way to facilitate clear interpretations. Nobody is going to be struck by lightning or anything for not writing in a way that every human will immediately understand. But it does seem like this happy middle ground where you start by promoting your preferred syntax before respectfully appending a “translation” as this little olive branch of clarity.
We probably write in our journals for ourselves while we write on here for other community members, so taking the feedback you mention you’ve received into account is ostensibly a courtesy.
(not a mod, $0.02 only!)
I guess you could argue that using ð and þ like OP does makes English spelling clearer.
Right now, the digraph TH can make two different sounds (the sound in thy and the sound in thigh), and if a reader comes across a word or name they don’t know (like Athena or Mathers), there’s no way for them to know which TH sound it uses.
Using ð for the thy sound and þ for the thigh sound (which is what OP is doing) makes it clearer.
But how does that fix the other 99% of English spelling that is equally broken?
Why would it need to fix everything else? How could a single digraph swap fix any other issue than the one it is trying to address?
The point is that spelling and pronunciation in English are basically so different they might as well be two completely different languages so why bother with that one thing in particular?
I, too, have unskipable cutscenes over my special interests.
Also, Revive the Thorn/Thurs!
Racists can not help themselves. If there’s a MAGAt in your life, I can pretty much guarantee they’ll say some hateful shit at some point…
MAGA maggot lmao
Folks in Puerto Rico when they’re admitted as a state: “he tells it like it is.”
“It was just a joke!”
Oh, I don’t get it. Can you explain to me what the joke is? Like, can you put into words why you find that funny?
I don’t understand the joke because everybody knows the trash island (not an island btw, you cannot walk on it) is in the Pacific Ocean, and Puerto Rico is on the Atlantic Ocean, so it’s inaccurate. I mean… geography is important, otherwise, you could do the joke with any island in the world and as a French, I would of course pick Great Britain.
(ok, that would be funny, then)
I think it’d be subverting expectations. From the start you might think it’s about the Pacific trash island that has collected there, but then it turns the other way and calls Puerto Rico a trash island. A decently funny joke imo, even if rude. I’ve seen the same joke being done about the UK and it did get a proper chuckle out of me.
The main difference is that the UK used to be powerful and did a lot of bad things to a lot of countries around the world. Puerto Rico on the other hand has always been weak so it feels weird for someone in a much more powerful area of the world to pick on them.
Good comedy can punch up, but very rarely works when punching down. Punching down is generally just bullying in disguise.
I think Anthony Jeselnik sums it up pretty well
When punching up it’s funny, punching down is called bullying
It can be meaner but for a stand-up I think it could be fine, if the context is comedy and it didn’t have genuine hatred behind it. In this case it’s clear that it was used as a tool of hatred and not just for making a joke.
I don’t think how places used to be plays any part in how funny insulting them is. Despite being as powerful as the UK when it was last relevant and worse, I think people would still be offended if he said Japan instead. “Always OK to hate colonizers” as someone put it my butt, the internet just really wants to make fun of France and not feel bad about it.
I would say it is fair to make fun of them as long as they themselves still glorify that past.
So you would say it’s fair if he had said “It’s called Japan” instead? They glorify their recent past as well.
I’m sure a lot of folks on SEA would heartily agree, especially Chinese and Koreans.
If by recent past you mean the genocides in their most recent wars with their neighbors then yes, I would say that would qualify them to be made fun of in that way. If you just mean some industrial successes in the 1980s, not so much.
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