Sad b/c teachers really don’t get rewarded monetarily enough, and OOP is acting like that’s some kinda lucrative career that would provide enough even for that.
what does “no real kids” and “no real bills” mean?
She’s a teacher, so she has kids that aren’t hers, and probably pays her phone bill and auto loan and student debt (and possibly rent to her shitty parents). Those parents of course don’t consider those real bills.
It’s worse when you consider that “real bills”, ie a mortgage, is probably out of her reach while he had it easy.
He’s mocking his own daughter when she probably got absolutely fucked by corruption and the economy for not having the opportunity to indebt herself for housing, when he probably bought his house on a potato salary.
Pets and “only” bills related to the daughter and her everyday life.
And I’d bet “real bills” are only bills that the parent seems worthy — mortgage, car payment, etc. I’m guessing teacher pays rent, utilities, pays for groceries…
Nah. Rent and utilities are definitely counted as real bills by everyone. She probably lives at home, or at someone else’s house and just pays like $400 a month to stay there.
Am I the only one who lives with their parent and helps paying bills? I am asking, because some people seem to be surprised that my father forces me to pay for the living in his house, but the truth is I don’t mind that, and I’d rather not be a freeloader.
I think It is fair that the members of a family, that are a community living together or not, all share in the burdens of life so it is easier for everyone. But if the parents are like forcing you to pay rent, then I would just live somewhere else.
Put in another way. It is fine if you have an adult children to say “hey, help out anyway you can so it is easier to everyone” and if they cannot figure out how to do that or they are like stuck and not progressing in life then instead of an ultimatum of “pay rent” better is a “I think you need the experience of living on your own”. Again I am all for money staying in the family and much prefer that or even better they saving money to buy a place than paying rent to some shitty landlord. But anyway.
I mean, if you’re an adult with an income and living with anyone else (parents, roommate, etc.), you really should be helping with the upkeep of the place and bills. As well as paying for your own food, phone bill, etc.
“Forcing you to pay” sounds harsh without context. You’d have to pay rent to live anywhere else, right? Perhaps, “expected to pay” seems more logical… assuming you’re an adult with an income.
It’s situational, but you’re not the only one.
I lived with my dad for many years because he slowly lost the ability to take care of himself. My brother and I were there to handle whatever he needed and since I was working full time, I’d cover bills when it was required, either because he forgot or because he was struggling.
We eventually made the decision to have him moved to a care facility where he could get the care he needed, and far better care than we could hope to provide. He’s passed on now, but it happens. That was a crazy time in my life. Now I live independently.
For the record, I’m over 40 now, and I’m the youngest of his children. He died a few years back at this point.
Setting an appropriate amount of contribution is between you and your dad. There is no wrong way except if a child truly needs a roof to sleep under and they aren’t a complete fuck up.
Even complete fuck ups need a roof
But at some point, it doesn’t necessarily mean your roof. Especially if the fuck ups damage property or other persons.
If your parents want you to pay rent, while at the same time complaining that you still live with them(which is often the situation), they can charitably be called dumbfucks.
I really subscribe to the idea of the kid helping on bills + a little extra and the parent saving as much as they financially can of that into an account and giving it to their kid as a moving away gift.
But yes, I think you are more talking about having the kid pay market price to live at home which is fucked.
I understand the need to privacy as people get older, but if my kids want to stay with me for a long period of their life, I will be pleased to have them with me as long as they like.
It wouldn’t occur to me to broadcast this to others on the internet, especially with personal details, even for a random solicitor, let alone a family member, let alone my own child.
And since the kid didn’t anticipate the public ridicule, it may very well be the first time they ever asked for this kind of help. What an awful way to learn your parent considers you little more than an expendable prop in their social life.
In nature, some species prey upon their young. We usually understand this as an evolutionary mechanism, to ensure only the strongest offspring survive. With that in mind, if your parent behaves like this, consider that they may no longer be your caregiver, and it may be time for you to decide what it takes to be the offspring that survives.
It wouldn’t occur to me to broadcast this to others on the internet, especially with personal details, even for a random solicitor, let alone a family member, let alone my own child.
That enrages me. I don’t understand why people feel the need to air their dirty laundry on social media. Keep that shit to yourself, the relevant parties, and your therapist.
Social darwinism disgusts me…
Social Darwinism disgusts me…
Same, but I picked this illustration for a reason.
Abusive parents often use essentialist language to keep their children bound with obligation and guilt. Vulnerability to that rhetoric tends to be associated with notions of “natural law,” so I suspect a natural metaphor has a better chance of resonating with those that need to hear it.
I’m hoping she doesn’t teach highschoolers. If her students cought wind of this post and worked out it was about their teacher, classroom management goes out the window.
And when the time comes that shitty person will ask “why she doesn’t love me? Why she threw me to this garbage asylum?” without understanding it.
And only because at some point they decided to stop hearing anyone who disagreed. It’s not just their kids who stop talking to them. Eventually everyone figures it out, and this type of person ends up pretty isolated later in life.
She only has fake kids and fake bills
I bet it was because she is not married and has kids. The conservative mind ladies and gentleman and in betweens.
It’s her students
Dude this is like every post on the estranged parents sub on reddit… they really are oblivious to the fact that their kids have good reasons to hate them
Why would people want to be on Twitter for posts like this?
It’s like joining a real life club where the more of a jerk you are, the more speaking time you get.
same reason people still watch reality tv
Someone tell them “i think i raised an entitled shit” isn’t the pwn they think it is
24 y/o with a teaching job.
No real income is what she has. Probably on top of a shitton student debt.
Don’t forget how much money she spends on classroom supplies for her “not real kids”!
By the description it sounds like she lives at home? Teachers start most places at $40k+ a year. If she doesn’t have any bills and she’s 24 and no longer wants to wear glasses or contacts, yeah. That’s on her.
Spoken like someone who doesn’t have student debt. Or understand it at all.
My starting teacher salary in 2016 was $33K before taxes
And that was a long time and a lot of inflation ago.
And a lot of inflation means that, unless wages kept with it (they didn’t), this situation is exponentially worse.
Where are teachers starting at $40,000? That was 10 year salary in most of the US not even 5 years ago. My brother, his wife, and one of my sisters all started at ≈$24,000 a year, and they still had to supply their classrooms with basic supplies. They all got into teaching at completely different points over the last 19 years. One in '05, one in '12, and the last in '16 and they all started at ≈$24,000 a year. This was in Indiana, Georgia, and Virginia.
Straight from the National Education Association website.. This is a .org pro teacher and pro education website that is actively trying to increase teacher pay.
The National average for NEW teachers is $44,530. 28 percent of districts that staff a total of 300,000 teachers start at below $40,000. However, 23 percent of districts start at over $50,000, and those districts staff a total of 1,300,000 teachers. So over four times more teachers start over $50k, compared to the under $40k crowd.
Furthermore, Montana and Missouri have the lowest average starting teacher salaries and they are still at $34,500 and $36,800. So even if you’re in the dead last worst off state in the country, you’re still average new teacher salary is about $35,000.
So your numbers you have are a far, far, cry from reality for all but the lowest paid teachers in the lowest paid areas and are like a decade back from today’s rates.
As a completely superficial note, my friend just got her first full time teaching job for grade school and is in the 2nd lowest paying state for new teachers in the country; Missouri. Her starting salary is $51,000.
So if you want to have any argument or discussion about my original statement for teacher salaries being incorrect, do as I have and back it up with facts and sources.
Thats because teachers have been fighting tooth and nail to get a proper salary and its still fucking awful.
She’s also probably paying for school supplies.
'Murica!
Apparently she doesn’t have a good parent either.
“no real bills” I’d believe…if the parent said she lived at home (no rent and food provided), was on parents’ insurance (health, auto, etc.), had no studentsl debt, and was walking distance to work.
But given that her parent didn’t, I’d guess that isn’t the case. Turns out rent, food, transportation, and like you said, student debt, are all…what’s the word…real bills?
To a lot of people “serious bills” means credit card debt for shit they didn’t need.
Why does she say no real kids? Did she adopt or something and the mom is crazy?
Probably has a pet or two and doesn’t want any “real” kids so they don’t end up acting like their parents…
She has robokids
My fifth grade teacher never had any kids, and considered us as her children. Maybe something like that is what she is referring to?
I wonder if this lady will ever realize the politicians she votes for (come on, we know which party) are why her daughter with one of the most importsnt jobs in the entire world can’t afford to see. Probably not.
If her eyesight can’t be corrected with glasses, I don’t Lasik is going to help.
I don’t know which one is the bad parent here.
Wouldn’t it have been nice to get Bernie’s medicare for all, with vision and dental coverage, so people fresh out of college with their likely first real job don’t need to ask their shitty ass parents for help?
It would be nice if boomers and older Gen Xers would stop cashing out and then blaming millennials and zennials for the inflation being out of control and the economy not being the monolith it was in the 1980’s. You know, the 80’s during which that little tech boom thing happened right around the time a famous actor got elected president and immediately started de-regulating everything under the sun so that huge corporations could start squeezing employees and consumers like the chattel they are, thereby inflating the value of goods, services, and land.
“No one has audacity like the people you raised” proceeds to post about it to potentially millions of people, you know like people without audacity do.
How dare a family member ask for help. Who do they think they are?
