• letsgo@lemm.ee
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    It’s like one of those irregular verbs. I’ve got a cool fantasy, you’re a pervert, he’s in jail, etc.

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      I don’t think the broader populace has any link between the two of them in their minds.

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      …TIL furries have any relation to gay people (except I don’t actually believe they do)

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        There is a significantly higher proportion of LGBTQ+ representation within the furry community than the general populace, and it makes sense why. Fursonas are another way to explore sexual and gender identities in a safe way, and furry communities tend to be pretty accepting places.

        This is just my opinion, but I see kink in the furry community criticized the same way I see kink at Pride events criticized.

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          I don’t know what you mean using “kink” this way, but the general population is not aware of this connection and thus it would only be a coincidence if what you’re saying is true. I mean, furries are kinda weird but I don’t get why they’re even a topic. I’ve never met one and I doubt I will. Being gay is probably ten times more common.

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            You are right, but a lot of the roots of furry criticism do tend to be queerphobic in origin. It’s just something to recognize.

            I’m using kink in a pretty generic way because a lot of the criticisms of furries relate to sex (e.g. beastiality or pedophilia), and thus any depiction of kink (like bondage gear) is used to demonize them that it’s a fetish (and one that is coming for your children.)

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              That might be fair in some contexts but I think most people would only make any connection to beastiality, which is probably fair, no? The whole thing is dressing up like an animal and it’s confusing for most people who don’t do it.

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                A furry is someone that identifies with anthropomorphic animal characters (or sometimes just animal characteristics). No dressing up required. Now, a lot of the people that go to cons tend to have more money, so you will see more fursuits and such, but most furries do not dress up.

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                  TIL. I first heard of furries like 10 years ago and hadn’t ever known this. I thought the entire thing was dressing up.

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        You do know that being gay and being furry ain’t mutually exclusive right, but I guess whatever justification you can find for letting your true feelings out.

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          Might wanna practice reading more carefully. I just said they are two separate and unrelated things. And here you are acting like I said they are one and the same and in a homophobic way or something. Bizarre.

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            I don’t think it’s forbidden knowledge that a large portion of furries are LGBT. Don’t know why you’re calling them unrelated.

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              At no point did I say anything insulting. Claiming that two groups aren’t one and the same isn’t hateful, and it’s frankly weird you’re trying to twist my words into that. Whoever hurt you is not me.

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              So because I am white and a male, I guess you can’t say anything about what it means to be male without that applying to white women too? Do you actually speak English or what?

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                I have no clue what you’re trying to say. How many women are men?

                Exactly zero, because (excluding certain trans identities for the purpose of simplification) there is no intersection between the two groups. Talking about what it means to be a men doesn’t involve a single woman, therefore it doesn’t apply to them.

                Hating a primarily queer subgroup has very much homophobic implications, the same way the war on drugs is obviously racist:

                We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or Black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and Blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities

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                  The analogy was straightforward. My whiteness apparently makes me the same as every other white person. You’re trying to find something that isn’t here, at all

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    I personally don’t really care that much, but I guess this is mostly about “living stuff out openly” vs. “keeping your fetish in non-public spaces”.

    Yes, there are public mermaid events, but I don’t think those are perceived as less weird.

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      Being a furry is not common

      The number of children who identify as a furry in your local grade school would shock you.

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    Probably because old folks know that mermaids are a myth and don’t identify as mermaids ( although ai think I saw a docuseries about a 30ish year old thinking he was one) Where as furries bleed the line between what might be fetish realm, and what might be some people actually believing/thinking they are a furry animal–which would be considered a delusion.

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    I would say that if anyone is upset about an older furry, then that person is living proof that furry is a sexualised fetish. Why else would it upset them?

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      50% of mythology is just fetish, just check out Greek mythology. People most definitely masturbated to mythology in the past based on the amount of fetish oozing out of the stories.

      You can’t tell me the ancient Greek equivalent to furries didn’t think Zeus transforming into animals and fucking was hot.

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    My brother in Christ, werewolves existed for at least 150 years and shape shifting goes back hundreds more. A beast that becomes a person… What could that possibly be for? A person becoming a beast is easy and the not weird part of folk history that didn’t upset any kind of established morals. Violence is a part of life. Hot wolf dick that escapes into the night after making sweaty sheets? More difficult to keep as an oral tradition. Well, in stories at least.

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    I went to dragon con one year, people were dressed in all sorts of costumes even though it’s not a furry con. And I know the hotels where the con is are incredibly hard to book. That said just once I want some senior executive to accidently book a room in one because he has some meeting with a potential client of something and just so happen to click it at the right time.

    He shows up and is completely bewildered by all the people in costumes. “you’ll never believe it mark. I rode down the elevator with a robot and I swear to God… Tiny from Bob’s burgers”

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      My partner went to a convention in another city. He was caught off guard by the number of dudes in leather and fetishwear that he saw around the hotel when he first arrived but just thought the city must have a diverse and adventurous night life.

      The next morning on his way out he spotted a poster, it was “The Bear Ball” weekend, some disco themed big gay guy event, and the hotel he was in was the headquarters, which explains why most of the other attendants of his conference were being housed in a different hotel.

      He said he had some great people watching for the next couple days.

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    I mean, the point of a mermaid isn’t that it’s a sexy looking fish, it’s that other than its tail, it looks like beautiful human women. In some stories, sailors don’t even realize they’re taking to mermaids because their tails are underwater. Also, mermaids were generally considered bad omens or malicious entities, and when they did seduce humans, it was usually to kill them, so it’s not like the folklore was very pro-mermaid sex.