Too right. I’m actually surprised at the headline from the Guardian.

…and sky donkeys.

I’m not sure who has the brief for illegal immigration, but I really hope they are able to be effective with a “busting the gangs” strategy. It will take so much wind of of the right’s sails.

Her idiotic strategy?

Wasn’t that the problem with the Mary Rose?

…and so it begins…

LDs have never had this number of seats before.

The DUP propped up May’s government which put through Brexit. They take their seats and speak in debates. They have an effect, but not much of one with so few seats, and Reform is on a similar number. They will be a similar small voice in Westminster.

The vote share is a different issue. Some Tories will be looking at that longingly, but I suspect they would alienate more than they’d recruit if they actually shifted in that direction.

Presumably part of that was trying to account for the lack of preference data?

So it won’t be a big deal when we totally stop.

I don’t think that’s always true, but it’s true in this case.

…but if you give people the opportunity to list preferences, they don’t vote the same way. Tactical voting goes out of the window, and people are free to put what they actually want as their first choice.

I favour STV for this reason, but AV would have been an improvement too. AMS retains a single choice IIRC and for that reason I would never support it’s use. Also the AMS list means big parties can just put all their top choice people on it and almost guarantee their election.

Stadiums in France are municipal facilities. I’m sure the stadium will join the others in Paris and be used for a variety of events.

Or having them in parliament might expose them as the one trick pony that they are.

I think Labour have to have a real effect on things in the next 5 years to show that the system can work. That will take the wind out of the right’s sails more than anything. Most of the reform vote is people feeling ignored, trod upon, thrown away. Labour has to make the people feel supported.

Largely the same, but with a small LD bump at least.

I despair at people.

Yes, exactly.

I think if we reran the election today after these results…

• Labour vote would remain the same
• LD vote would remain the same
• Reform voters would see how ineffective their vote was, and swing back to some degree.

…and we’d be in hung parliament land very easily.

Labour’s Gaza stance doesn’t work were there is a large Muslim population.

Fewer seats than green would mean under 4 seats. We can dream I guess

131 is too many.

Do you care that the DUP has seats?

No, reform will be equally meaningless.