Many people work from home and don’t have very many Internet providers in their area. In a post COVID world, many people are never getting a job in an office. They can’t risk losing their job over losing Internet access over piracy.
*arrs auto downloading stuff for sure.
What’s funny is that the source those *arrs are downloading from is largely unchanged from the 90’s &aughts by still being newsgroup based
Yeah, I’ve been using newsgroups since the 90s back when I was also using xdcc on irc. Times were quite different.
Funny thing, I tried using newsgroups for their intended purpose after rediscovering that Thunderbird is also a newsreader. The amount of topics is large (and really old), but the ones I checked out haven’t had many updates. Though i admit I haven’t been brave enough to dive into the alt. group yet. It reminds me of the internet before the web.
…thats because newsgroups have been around a lot longer than the web?
Well, yeah. My first interaction with the internet was a friend’s technical savvy dad who had compuserve.
Funny thing is that the only reason I’ve found *arrs a few years ago was Netflix deciding to be stupid, making me look at how I can manage my local library better nowadays.
In the late 90s and very early 00’s you could
googleyahoo song names and get a downloadable mp3 link as one of the first results.early ’00s*
Yep, too much of search engines today is people pushing SEO crap to rise in rankings and the businesses “protecting” users by delisting tons of sites that Google/Yahoo or who-the-fuck-ever has decided are “bad.” The number of times legitimate sites get swept up in that bullshit is too damn high.
Having no filtering certainly had its pros and cons, considering how much traumatizing shit google would throw at me as a child lol
It’s largely the same because we started out with mostly enthusiasts doing it in semi hidden places. Then it was mainstreamed and became too easy for casuals to do out in the open. So laws and enforcement caught up and now it’s most effective again if you know your way around, which most casuals won’t if they can afford a few streaming services.
One big change is no longer having to burn any media, you download something then it’s on plex and you can watch it instantly.
If I could bring anything back from the 90s it would be a big selection of games, movies, tv, music, and books that I actually care enough to consume. There’s hardly anything worth downloading anymore.
Plex is likely spying on you. It’s a binary blob with financial aspirations. It takes less than a few MB to upload your entire database to their servers.
Probably right, but at least my watch history is all attached to a throwaway email address I use for it.
How much easier it’s gotten and most of what you download nowadays is usually exactly what you’re looking for. In the 90’s/00’s, alot of what was pirated had the potential to just be total BS or mislabeled, so you were never entirely certain what it was you were getting. I think Madonna had even gotten into it and released a one of her own albums as a fake download with her telling the listener “What the fuck are you doing?” At the time I mostly got music, though the Dreamcast pirating scene was pretty big for me for awhile. I think anymore though I’m probably more interested in obscure RPG books now.
I think with torrenting, there’s a certain amount of trust that’s inherent with some torrents by virtue of the number of downloads/seeders there are on a torrent. At least for me, I can assume, ok, there’s 100 people seeding this thing, chances are this is exactly what it says it is, otherwise this many people wouldn’t be still seeding it (you can fool some people some of the time, or something like that). I don’t pirate nearly as often as I did when I was younger, but now I feel the need to use protection (via a VPN) because you just don’t know who might be watching. In my entire time having pirated stuff over multiple decades, I had only ever gotten a single letter from my ISP, so it’s not something that I ever felt particularly afraid of, but you never know and it’s better to be safe about that stuff.
We torrented so many movies, so so many movies. It quit being a question of what we wanted to watch and just became a game of how much can I get today. Then I just wandered away from it one day. I never received any letters. I do have a friend who got a letter from Lucas.
’90s*/’00s* a lot*
Usenet Newsgroups were a big part of my life back then. Games, MP3s, Software, Movies, TV shows. So many Xbox games that I burned to DVD and loaded onto my modded Xbox. Those were the days. Now I only torrent some movies and TV shows thru a VPN and pay for everything else. My time is worth a lot more to me now than back in the late 90s/early 2000s.
The whole political discussion about Internet media licensing, like a 10-15€ tax to finance artists while making piracy global. In the end we have the same except it’s financing Internet millionaires over artists
Is it weird that I don’t want to pay for any streaming media, I don’t have a cable package, but if some reasonable system were created such as that I could have access to digital copies of media for a flat monthly rate I would pay it?
Like if someone would come and just say you pay $80 a month and you can watch listen to or read anything you can find and save them all locally for future reuse, no problems, I would probably pony up.
$40, yep, I’d do it. $80? Nope, I’d rather drop $2k on a new HDD array.
Yes I’m also the same way with ads. I’d happily spend more for internet if there was somehow an “ad surcharge” that would mean I’d never see ads or be tracked. Let me pay whatever the advertisers pay.
Adblock exists, and as such, I never see ads. You could do the exact same, for the low low price of $0.
I’d rather pay the same then use knowledge online to learn how to circumvent their bullshit. I will never pay companies to remove bullshit ‘features and items’ that make services inherently worse. It only enables them to continue molesting and raping you
Ease of grabbing content. There are so many tools that make it too easy and automated. I mean this has changed drastically in the last 10 years let alone 90s.
Mp3 to cdda sounds like shit
It might be boring and obvious, but the speeds.
I used to have to plan ahead, set overnight downloads, very consciously and actively manage data rates and in general never plan around getting something. Today, I can get basically ANYTHING in less than an hour on FiOp. Most things, 5-10 minutes. Transfer rate has outscaled data size, and it’s fantastic.
I remember downloading the big stuff at work, because they had a T1, and network security wasn’t really a thing yet.
FiOp
Faith in Older People?
https://www.faithinolderpeople.org.uk/my guess: FiberOptic cable
One thing I truly miss from the Winamp days of piracy was the live feeds. Anime, porn, music, some great adventures discovered from just browsing. It’s how I discovered Deftones, Neon Genesis Evangelion, and Sindee Coxx.
Downloading a movie only to find out it was actually porn.
Or the other way around.
And a whole lot of content that I frankly would have preferred not to have seen.
When you’re 12 and your parents have no idea what you’re doing, you’ll end up in very dark corners.
rotten.c0m?
Christ, that brings back unpleasant memories…
Pretty sure it was spelt wrong and had one ‘t’
Seen some deeply dark shit for a 10 year old
Downloading a movie only to find it was the pain Olympics or a cartel/terrorist beheading was also fun
A lot less VCDs and MP3s downloaded from FTP servers and BBSes.
Not sure if I’d bring it back, but I sure do miss the fun of playing Quake against my mates on public servers.
The thing to remember is that internet and cellular service wasn’t available everywhere. I had to talk 10 minutes to a hill to get service to be able to make a cellular phone call. Most internet options required landline phones and wifi was barely off the ground for most consumers.
Media was something we extracted from the internet. Now the internet is something we have to extract ourselves from.
I used to pirate because I was poor back then. Now that I make a decent living I’m more than happy to pay devs for their hard work.
