It’s impressive how duckduckgo manages to be so much better than bing despite being a frontend for bing

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    6 months ago

    Oh my god that’s amazing. Instructions on how to do what you’re literally doing, dead internet theory is so correct. Instructions for robots by robots

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      Unpopular opinion: dead internet is not only real, but GOOD. Once robots get good enough to autonomously sign up for websites and make convincing posts, this will force us humans to go actually outside, make friends, form deep social relationship, and build lasting, resilient communities. Meanwhile on the internet, websites that are willing to allow AI content for money will eventually die out due to lack of actual users. The only remaining websites will be run by individuals and organizations with non-profit motives, and a strict human-only policy with verification based on word-of-mouth / invite system.

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        I’m a geek, always around computers, gaming, tinkering, etc.

        Once I moved for work, to Spain, didn’t know the language. My laptop broke, like, when opening it, the plastic was fatigued and the screen just bent.

        I was broke, expensive training… Couldn’t replace it before a few months.

        So I went to the bar of the inn I was starting at. And just, tried to pick up some words.

        Long story short, after a while I knew everyone in town, had many friends, and after work, laptop or not, I would go to the bar. I got fluent in Spanish too.

        Happiest time of my life. I don’t think my mental health has ever been as good as back then.

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        6 months ago

        Enshittified internet and software made me no longer obsessed with technology, and instead I focused on other hobbies. And it also made my socialize more.

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        this will force us humans to go actually outside, make friends, form deep social relationship, and build lasting, resilient communities

        There is no chance it goes that way, how is talking to people outside even an option for someone used to just being on the internet? Even if the content gets worse, the basic mechanisms to keep people scrolling still function, while the physical and social infrastructure necessary for in person community building is nonexistent.

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        5 months ago

        Boooo, this is just diet accelerationism! Let me have genuine online connections in addition to my IRL ones.

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        6 months ago

        I’m extremely wary and nervous about how disruptive LLMs can/will be but one relief is just getting an answer directly for things instead of wading through page after page of SEO optimized BS. Just really nice when you can get a quick answer and get back to the things you want to be doing.

        I suppose the AI overlords will screw that up somehow too but IMO it’s at a brief moment of usefulness.

        • RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          If the answer is even correct. Friend tried to use it to see what laptops with 4k screens cost and all 3 options were in fact, not 4k at all because the AI is dog shit :)

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            No that’s very true, I had it look up leather repair shops not too long ago and it listed six completely fictional shops with fully fleshed out trip-advisor style blurbs for each one. It was hilariously convincing and a complete waste of my time. But it does seem like that happens less and less lately.

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              Thing is, you never have any clue whether the AI is telling you something even remotely true unless you go behind it and trawl through six pages of shitty SEO-optimized bullshit anyway. So you can either take its word at face value and potentially be completely wrong, or else just do the research yourself anyway and ignore the AI answer.

              Personally, I choose the second. I find it to be less frustrating if I just assume the AI is wrong.

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    6 months ago

    I’ve been using my own searxng instance for a few months now and my god I’m never going back.

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    6 months ago

    Hey now, that malware has paid to be the top result! Probably using the proceeds scammed out of somebody who downloaded it.

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    5 months ago

    i remember i got a opera broswer recommended on bing when i was searching for zen which is a firefox fork

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    Here’s the UBlock filters for a better experience, on this day, 12-9-2024. Sadly, the results are still bing results, and the MS data vacuum is still in effect. (there’s a chance this get’s filtered cause of all the urls, so if there’s nothing below, oh well, woulda been nice, huh.

    edit, image now

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    6 months ago

    Okay, totally off topic…what is it with this annoying trend of censoring a company/name with an asterisk when it’s a subject of ire? It just bugs me - and not in a way that focuses my anger to Microsoft.

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      It’s ironic, except for when we’re talking about the Fr*nch. It’s self aware humor that you’re being ridiculous. The tone it’s supposed to convey in situations like thisis that you’re being hyperbolically obtuse.

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        5 months ago

        Those are generally used for bypassing filters on TikTok and Instagram

        But like, come on man, no matter how much you censor it I know the word and I get the message. Because that’s why you wrote it, you want me to read and understand it

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      6 months ago

      With stuff like Tesla and Twitter, it can keep away the weird nerds who search those terms in hopes of white-knight-sealioning a conversation into oblivion. I think it just became part of the lexicon.

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          https://amp.knowyourmeme.com/memes/sea-lioning

          Sea-Lioning is an Internet slang term referring to intrusive attempts at engaging an unwilling debate opponent by feigning civility and incessantly requesting evidence to back up their claims. The term was coined in September 2014 by anti-GamerGate Internet users to mock perceived online discussion tactics employed by GamerGate supporters.

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            I gotta be honest, the sea lion is not the bad guy in this comic. Lady randomly says some racist shit, and a member of the group she’s being racist against calls her out for being racist. And then the fact that the sea lion called the racist out is apparently justification for the initial racist statement.

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              Racism justifies harassment and home invasion? I don’t think I can necessarily agree with that. Consequences, yes. But harassment? I’ll have to think about it.

              The point Malki was making, I think (and the way I take it) is less about the purpose or content of the discourse and more about the harassment veiled in false civility as a means of silencing discussion.

              There’s also an element of Person C inserting themselves into a private conversation between Person A and Person B, even if that conversation is being held in a public place.

              Pretend he’s not a sea lion, but a conservative, and you’ll get the intended effect.

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                Racism justifies harassment and home invasion?

                Yeah. Not gonna cry over what the victims of racism do to racists.

                and more about the harassment veiled in false civility as a means of silencing discussion.

                How is the sea lion silencing discussion? They weren’t discussing anything, they were having a racist circlejerk. The racist lady said a racist thing and the sea lion invited discussion by asking, “Why did you say that racist thing?” and then they refused to actually explain why they’re racist against sea lions, treating it as self-evident that being racist against sea lions is correct and thus that it is unreasonable to question it.

                Pretend he’s not a sea lion, but a conservative

                He can’t choose not to be a sea lion. This is kind of incoherent. “Pretend he’s not black, but a conservative.” This sea lion could also be conservative, that doesn’t really have anything to do with the fact that he’s being criticized for immutable properties he was born with, not for anything of substance.

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                  Not gonna cry over what the victims of racism do to racists.

                  Eh…I dunno. I’m not going to tone police anyone, and consequences for bad actions are definitely good, but do two very-wrongs make a kinda-right? I’m not sold.

                  [the rest]

                  Look…if you don’t vibe with the comic, that’s fine. It’s just obviously not about all the stuff that you seem to think it’s about.

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                  Again sea lioning is a type of behavior not a type of person or being. As a form of humor they rather than have a person embody the behavior be a literal sea lion because whimsical tension between the metaphorical sea lion also being an actual sea lion is funny.

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                Racism justifies harassment and home invasion?

                You realize internet sealions don’t actually invade homes?

                You realise the harassment stops if you don’t respond?

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                  5 months ago

                  I realize that. The person above seemed to think that everything in this clearly allegorical comic is somehow intended to be taken literally.

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              Sea lion is slang for a type of behavior a person exhibits not an immutable characteristic of the person like the color of their skin. They didn’t have to prove the behavior because the behavior expressed IS the behavior.

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          Have you ever heard a sea lion? They’re super loud and they all get together and bark.

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        The inverse of this is that people who filter out specific words in their feeds will be tricked into seeing it. You get to piss off 2 groups of people by doing it!

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      It conveys “I have such a disdain for that thing that I’m asterisking its name like it was a slur or swear word”.

      I’m not a big fan either, even if you can find some secondary roles for that (as keeping someone from finding it, like ilinamorato exemplified). It distracts the reader from what is being said to the author’s personal opinion about what is being said.

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    No joke, I hesitated to even click on the thumbnail. That’s what this bullshit modern internet has conditioned me to do.

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    6 months ago

    is it based on your searches or something? both in the browser with fingerprint protection where it thinks im from Usa and from the one where it detects my correct location the first result is from logi.com. I really hate bing, specially since they started pushing ai, but dunno, doesnt seem like the normal user experience what you are getting.

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    6 months ago

    what’s even the point of a download link if you don’t have a guide that tells you how to click the link