One that comes to mind for me: “Whatever doesn’t kill you makes you stronger” is not always true. Maybe even only half the time! Are there any phrases you tend to hear and shake your head at?

  • BowserBasher@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    “Cheer up, it may never happen”

    I’m sorry but if I’m not in a good mood or I’m sad it’s because something has happened to make me feel like it.

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    “lets agree to disagree”

    how about fuck you, one of us is wrong and I want to know which one of us that is!

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      but there is just no right or wrong answer to every question… sometimes it’s just about opinion.

      sometimes these questions are trivial (which color of tie should I wear with this shirt) and sometimes they are literally life and death questions (should death penalty be legal)… and there will always be people with opposing opinions on them. “agreeing to disagree” is literally the best possible thing they can do to live in the same society.

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      Hmmm, while I see your point on the phrase, my friend group and I only ever use it on subjective things. Like orange juice or chocolate milk being better, for example. If we’re both arguing (in a fun way) and have no good points to change the other’s mind, then we agree to disagree. Haha

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      Most people don’t care about what’s true, something that took me forever to realize. Encountering humanity under the assumption that everyone cares about the truth (or any aspect of empirical and normative reality) is bound to be suuuper confusing until you figure things out. People are literally animals (we forget that), and animals are just trying to survive. Some of them are cute or loving. Not all of them are particularly “good,” and even fewer are willing to sacrifice creature comforts in pursuit of some abstract virtues. That’s why Trump gets any votes.

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      I find it really useful to shut down discussions where no one is budging and are just overall a big waste of time. As an example, if I’ve been trying to convince someone that the earth is round for 10 minutes and they clearly don’t have any interest in changing their view, I’ll just spare me the trouble and say it. If they still refuse to let it go, I start blindly agreeing with them, that usually does the trick.

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    Any phrase that begins with “no offense but”. Just say it, don’t add that phrase, it makes any statement look more offensive.

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    “everything has pros and cons”

    I usually give the CGP Grey’s legendary answer: “…but it’s hardly ever the case that all the pros and all the cons all PERFECTLY balance each other out, right?”

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      I have found this one to be largely true. “All the world’s a stage, and all the men and women merely players.”

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      Naw, this one works. If you look like you know you’re doing and are good at figuring shit out for yourself, you are good in almost all situations. We are all bumbling through life; some are better at pretending they aren’t.

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      Agloe, NY, was a fake town designed as a copyright trap on a map, but then a general store was built on that spot. When a company was caught stealing the map, they used the general store as proof the town actually existed.

      In Iceland in 2010, a group of comedians made a joke political party called the Best Party, with a platform that amateurs can’t mess up more than the pros. They won the mayoral election.

      There’s a youtube video about how to pretend you know how to play guitar, which suggests you learn just four chords and cycle between them. The comments noted that this is just a beginners guide to actually knowing how to play guitar.

      George Lazenby lied on his CV when he auditioned for James Bond. When he confessed this to the director, the director pointed out how he had already convinced an audience with his performance. By acting like an actor, he had shown his ability to act.

      The line between pretending and doing is thin, and you learn by doing, so you can learn by pretending to do. If it’s a good enough fake, it may as well be real.

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      Scrubs’ version was, “Sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will hurt forever.”

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      I once made my mom go quiet, and then apologize to me, defeating this point.

      I was telling her that she could be really cruel with her words sometimes, and that I’d like to her to be less so. She told me I shouldn’t take it so seriously, grow a thicker skin, that they’re just words.

      But she’s my mother, and what she thinks of me and what she says will always weigh ten times more in my mind than the words of almost anyone else. Ignoring what strangers think of me is easy, but with her, it’s literally impossible. I was telling her off because I knew she doesn’t mean the worst of what she says, and that despite that, coming from her every word hits like a freight train. That it takes enormous effort to think through and discount the parts she doesn’t mean. I told her that.

      At the time I felt really clever for making that point. Getting her to actually go quiet and say sorry felt amazing, so it stayed with me.

      I later realized it probably landed so hard because of how her parents treated/treat her.

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      “At least, not immediately visibly. But over time and with enough repetition and obsession they will carve canyons through my personality and emotional wellbeing. These canyons will be filled with emotional sticks and stones; huge, warped phantoms of the words they represent.”

      Take care with your words y’all. But also, who cares what they think!

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    “You miss every shot you don’t take!” or similar. It’s useless, makes no sense, and is disrespectful to yourself and others.

    Which is why I love saying it to pricks at work.

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      “To be honest” is mostly used in two situations:

      • to warn the listener that they might not like what they’re going to hear; e.g. “to be honest your lasagna is a bit too salty”
      • to highlight an apparent contradiction; e.g. “I like lasagna, but to be honest I’d rather eat pierogi today.”

      It should almost never be interpreted literally.

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      That’s why I prefer “to be frank” or “to be blunt.” Same implication but without that possibility.

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        Stand-up meeting: “to be frank, Frank is starting his holiday in Frankfurt next week so…”

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        “to be frank” or “to be blunt”

        Oh so you’re such a dishonest person you’ll change your name to Frank or Blunt midway? Unbelievable.

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    “This too shall pass” when faced with a hurdle but a “savor this moment” when something is supposedly good. If only life worked that way, you wouldn’t ever be complaining.

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      I’m with you on “this too shall pass”. My family uses this like it’s their damn catchphrase and while I’m sure the intentions are good, sometimes I would like validation when I complain about my life being a shit show, not just an idle ‘this too shall pass’. Might as well have just shrugged and walked away.

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        What would you like to hear in those moments instead of “this shall pass”? I find myself always in trouble when something like that happens: I want to be there for someone but it’s not easy and I feel awkward

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          I think if I come at you with the express purpose of venting, then just some validation is really all I’m looking for, personally. A “that sounds hard” or “dang, dealing with X sounds rough”. Things like that make me feel like you’re actually listening and like I’m okay to feel so frazzled about whatever is happening.

          Another approach that I think is good is asking whether or not whoever is talking to you wants validation, or solutions. I’m guilty of always offering solutions when people want to just vent and be heard, so that’s always a good stop gap.

          But I absolutely understand how awkward it can be trying to be there for someone and, of course, your results may vary. Still, communication gets us everywhere!

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    When people try to give bad news to someone and say, “there’s nowhere to go but up” as if they know that person has reached rock bottom… That has never been true in my life. So many times have I seen things get shittier and shittier for people. Fuck that stupid cheer up bs.

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    “it is what it is”

    If it weren’t what it is, well, it wouldn’t be anything at all, would it?

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      This one is about accepting things for what they are rather than wasting energy wishing they were different.

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      Yea as the other commenter said, the idea behind this saying is that ypu shouldn’t malinger in the “oh no I really wish I had done xyz!”. Oh well, it is what it is, no changing the present, only the future.

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    people talking about not being old enough to retire.

    Retirement is a function of finance not age.

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      You can’t take money from certain funds like 401k before reaching certain age without paying hefty penalty tho

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      There are parts of the world where it is a function of age, or at least of the number of years you’ve been working, because the government will pay you a pension after you worked and paid taxes this many years.