There may be an age or generational explanation for this, but I especially notice this behavior on Reddit while not nearly as much here on Lemmy (though maybe that’s also a mater of implementation).
It seems many are so quick to assert overly-confident positions, but then hit-and-run with some smarmy remark at even the slightest challenge, then quickly block. Like, not even crazy stuff. Just basic, civil disagreements. I can pretty well predict when it will happen, and it always feels like such a petty ego-sparing fingers-in-ears denial thing to do, and to me if anything shows they were not very confident in their views being challenged.
I think I’ve only blocked a handful of people over a decade who were actively spamming, stalking, or spewing extremely hateful rhetoric and I just reported them simultaneously. You have to cross a pretty extreme and irrational line for me to do that.
The reason I ask is to see if I’m missing something; to better understand the mindset of those who do.
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I’ve got better things to do than read a load of horseshit from bad-faith weirdos, so I block them. No point engaging with them and reading their opinions makes my day measurably worse.
Because you can go through your whole life with zero negative social corrections. It’s a low trust, collapse of society thing
If someone isn’t convinced by a reasonable explanation, they aren’t worth engaging with.
You find this out pretty quick when trying to interact in good faith on the internet.
I value my time, patience and sanity. There had been too many instances where I’ve poured way too much investment into things or people that just were not worth a single minute. The moment I feel someone gives me a snarky remark, wants to be a prick, wants to gaslight and whatever petty and bitter levels of engagement they want to bother me with. Fuck them, they’ll be blocked.
It does not make you weak or petty, that’s just them making up bullshit to excuse themselves when they knowingly were the problem.
Now in some cases it can be a little stupid to block people, like knowing you’re the one starting shit or deciding to get into debates you aren’t fitted to handle. Why would you do that to yourself? If you can’t handle it, don’t do anything. Lesson learned.
Damn if there was a function in real life where I can block someone and their existence disappears where other people can see them and I can’t? Fuck, dude, sign me up.
I use user notes for this - notes like “argues in bad faith,” “is knowledgeable about x,” etc. Then if I feel talking to someone is a waste, I still get their input if I want it but know whether or not to engage.
I use multiple devices to browse the web. Those user notes don’t carry over. So I just block people that argue in bad faith, those blocks do carry over, makes things easier for me to ignore, and prevents me from falling into the trap of debating those shitheads.
I have blocked more in the last year than I have in the last 20 combined. There are far, far too many people arguing to troll, arguing in bad faith, threatening, or insulting that will do everything they can to bait you, derail your argument, DM you with insults, etc.
It’s probably because I’ve become far more critical of anti-science, shitty politics, and shitty people, so I’m sure that’s part of the reason, but nonetheless I don’t have the time or patience anymore to waste on the pigeons knocking pieces over and shitting on the chessboard declaring victory, so I block them.
I also have been blocked outright when presenting any objectively factual rebuttal. Facts are often strictly disallowed in the narrative, particularly political and anti-science ones. People don’t want their flow of internet “likes” interrupted.
I need to start blocking people for my own sanity. You tell them the sky is blue, and they’ll demand a source. You send them a picture of the sky and they tell you its not a source. You dick about spending 5 minutes of your time finding an actual source because you obviously weren’t prepared to defend something so obvious, and they just tell you “pfft [source]. Actually trusting [source] in [thisyear].” It goes on.
Why would you read someone you don’t want to? Why would you use a feature of the platform?
Counterpoint- why hasn’t blocking been more common?
I’m a millennial, so I’ve basically grown up with the internet. Blocking has been a feature on basically any website, app, etc. that lets you interact with other people for as long as I can remember.
And I’ve never been afraid to use it. I’ve blocked probably hundreds of people across countless platforms over the last 2 decades or so, and I think my Internet experience has been better for it.
When I was in school, and I assume still to this day, one of the big things that always seemed to have people’s feathers ruffled was “cyberbullying” and other sorts of online harassment.
Now I’ll admit, somehow I ended up a reasonably well-liked, maybe even popular dude, (no idea how my weird, antisocial, probably-autistic ass pulled that off) so I was never really the target of it myself.
But it always baffled me how people let it be a thing. A whole lot of those problems always seemed like they could have been solved by just hitting the block button.
Not all of them of course, but a lot of them. Blocking someone of course doesn’t stop them from talking about you to someone else, but at that point a lot of it can just be out of sight and out of mind.
Back when I still had a Facebook, I had probably half of my town blocked because they were always posting dumb shit in the local groups. I had a bunch of businesses blocked because they spammed advertisements everywhere. I had actual friends who I hung out with IRL blocked or at least unfollowed because they flooded my feed with shitposts. Half of my family was blocked because I just didn’t want to deal with them on social media. I preemptively blocked people I work with or otherwise knew casually because they don’t need to see what I’m doing online.
I have never blocked any one on the internet. And I probably have been in online conversations for longer than you have been alive.
I find it so strange that people do that. We learned in the 80’s that people are probably liars and there are trolls. So just ignore them.
Turns out a lot of people may have something that gets you annoyed while at the same time have something worthwhile to say about a different topic.
And how are we ever going to learn from each other if we just block each other all the time?
hmm, blocked! /j
Blocked you AND OP! /j
Trolls have no right to any of my time.
Someone disagreeing with you isn’t a troll.
They didn’t say it was.
I see what you did there.
I’ve blocked like 2 people total, it’s pretty clear when someone isn’t arguing in good faith.
Regardless, my point is the same. No one has a right to demand I read what they write.
Or when you know they have
racist, sexist, homophobic, or Naziconservative ideals and are either overt OR covert about it.
Blocked.
I dunno I haven’t blocked anyone and I don’t know if anyone has blocked me.
Yeah how do you even know when someone has blocked you?
If you want, I’ll block you so you can feel included.
last I checked I had over 220 users blocked. now it’s probably 250.
I block people who are willfully ignorant or trolls.
I constantly block both users and communities on Lemmy. Mostly because they are spouting doomer nonsense, and I ain’t got no time for their bullshit.
Quake is better anyway.
There’s definitely an addicting trend to making people more scared than they should be. News falls to it, individuals seeking attention fall to it too.
I use it to curate my lemmy experiance. 99% of the users/communities I block aren’t for anything personal, they’re just clogging up my ALL feed with things I dont care about (for example, sports ball or foreign language comms).
Why are you subscribed to them? No need to block just curate.
I subscribe to ones I’m interested in. But sometimes I browse all to stumble across new interesting communities. I block the ones I see repeatedly and aren’t interested in. I block mass posters, I block bots, I block tankies, I block mods/admins of larger communities. It just makes my all browsing time more efficient.
What’s the purpose of blocking mods/admins of larger communities?
I just noticed a pattern of personality types that I didn’t mesh well with. So it’s best I don’t see their opinions, nor give them mine.
Like blocking all hexbear users. I’m sure I’m probably missing something worthwhile here and there, but overall my life is better without it.
they’re just clogging up my ALL feed with things I dont care about
They aren’t subscribed to them.
Yes, I am curious why anyone would want to look at ALL. Easier to just curate what you want and be done with it. Works better for Lemmy too since there is no algo.
How would you discover new communities when only browsing your feed? And there is plenty of topics I’m not interested enough in to subscribe to but I might still want to see when a popular post there blows up.
I find it much easier to browser ALL and just block the communities I’m definitely not interested in.
How will you see anything interesting that “blows up” if you are blocking it?
In any case: Lemmy is not reddit. So a lot of the subs I belong to would never show up in ALL. There is no algorithm to show me things based on my tastes or comments.
Discovery is up to you.
When I joined, I browsed communities, searched for topics I was interested in and once in a while revisit the list. I am truly using it like a forum aggregator. Links to other things and subs I am interested in often show up in the comments and that is the best discovery tool out side of browsing.
By the way, switching to scaled helps pull in more of your subscriptions to the top even when they are smaller communities.
How will you see anything interesting that “blows up” if you are blocking it?
I’m not blocking them. I’m only blocking communities I’m definitely not interested in, for example AI art or video games I don’t play.
So a lot of the subs I belong to would never show up in all.
I’m often browsing ALL ordered by “new” or “new comments” so with proper timing even the smallest communities will show up there. I’ve discovered plenty small ones like that.
New Comments does seem like a good way. Just wanted to say thanks for the conversation, obviously no right or wrong way, just what ever works for each of us. It’s nice to have a civil conversation.
next you’ll tell me you don’t like incredibly low effort political memes reposted from (social media site you specifically joined lemmy to avoid), smh
SPORTS BALL!!!
For me personally, I just don’t feel like dealing with yet another source of garbage that I don’t want to read.
In happier times, I felt a different way about blocking. Nowadays, the fucking potus forces the country to match some phony fucking Fox News image, and I don’t really care about reading some dumb assholes dumb rant anymore. Not blocking people and “dialog” and “debate bro” shit isn’t fixing this crap anyway, so I’m going to go ahead and make my own life contain a little less hassle.
That’s also why I’m only really here and on mastodon. I know they’re basically left wing safe spaces. I frankly don’t give a fuck.
I’m 31 now but I’ve always been pretty quick with a block button, i don’t mind people disagreeing with me, but some people are just overly aggressive and I find life’s better to just not care about them and block.
I also block trolls because you know don’t feed the trolls.
