I know they’re going to say it is only jokes. Fuck that. I get y’all want to be edgelords, but this is the most dangerous thing that has happened this century. I would be surprised now if we make it to the end of the year without some people getting assassinated for real, and it will target overwhelmingly the leftest end of the spectrum.

Example, example, example. There are others.

Y’all are on the precipice of finding out firsthand the difference between “OMG I’m so oppressed, the police are racist and I’m struggling to pay my bills, civil war y’all” and “OMG I’m so oppressed, a gang of big violent fuckers with bats and boots and the support of the government just attacked my whole community, seriously hurt me, and burned part of my house down. They told us if they find us here tomorrow, they’ll kill us.”

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    I think I am deeply troubled by some of the comments I’m reading. I absolutely agree that Trumps ascent to presidency is a huge threat to democracy, and it’s important to do everything we can to stop it.

    But in my opinion it is extremely inappropriate to wish someone dead, even someone as harmful to American Democracy as Trump. No person deserves to die for things they’ve done - this is the main reason why the UN urges its members to outlaw the death penalty. And when I read comments that people would want the killer to just do one job, or that he shouldn’t have missed, this doesn’t work with my ideal of respect for the human life.

    I am really sad about these comments.

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      When you sexually molest a child, you deserve to die. There are definitely things people can do that they deserve to die for.

      Joseph Fritzl should have been given the death penalty for what he did.

      I can understand not wanting death penalty due to fear of it being misused. But if you think there’s nothing anyone could do to deserve it, then I think you lack imagination of what horrible things people are capable of doing

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        This is not about the death penalty for trump, he deserves that day in court. What is wrong is some asshole shooting an assault rifle into a crowd to kill the wretch, at least in my view. Like the US doesn’t have enough shootings every week…

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      I am really sad about these comments.

      If it makes you feel any better, they are completely wrong.

      For me it’s not even about the death penalty aspect (although that also, yes). It’s the extrajudicial killing aspect and what it will do to our already fractured democracy.

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      Absolutely.

      The death of a political candidate robs All of us of our Democratic ability to vote and voice our political opinions.

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          Reforming the electoral college is a great place to start, I agree there’s a lot in the United States system that needs to be changed. Especially the voting system not just The electoral college, but first pass the post voting in general

          However, the implication of your statement, is assassinations are fine if they achieve your political goals. My response is that is the absolute antithesis of democracy, you’re removing people’s ability to affect their outcomes by killing the people they might vote for.

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              The point still stands You’re implying that a government decided by assassinations as preferable to a government run by the electoral college.

              I’m saying assassinations are the greater evil, and further from any practical form of democracy humans know about

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                  https://www.archives.gov/electoral-college/2016

                  Reforming the system is acceptable, using assassinations to get the outcomes you want is destroying the system entirely, and not replacing it with a better system, replacing it with worse levels of authoritarian violence.

                  If you simply want to win, and you have no principles about how you get there, you have no business in governance. I’d rather be led by somebody who is wrong but guided by principles then somebody with no principles.