Search apartments.com or whatever for places 1-2 hour bike rides from work. Move there.
…not joking, I’m fortunate enough in that that’s what I’ve been doing. Biking/walking to work is the only way I get any exercise (even though I can work from home). In winter months/if it’s too cold or snowy I’ll use the stationary bikes our work building put in to entice people back from COVID.
I have to have a purpose to exercise (other than health I guess?) otherwise I won’t do it.
I noticed that I feel better emotionally and physically when I exercise regularly and feel like shit when I don’t, so it’s kind of a self-preservation thing.
Cycling/Spinning
It’s usually low impact on the knees & backs of perrenial beginners like me. If I’m stationary cycling, I can sneak in my favorite entertainment to make the time fly by.
find an activity that you legitimately enjoy. that’s it
And ideally also something that doesn’t require too much preparation. If it takes a long time to prepare for or get back after you are usually less likely to do it.
This is what I did. I joined a football league for fatties and it’s helping keep me active whilst not being massively outclassed by people younger and/or fitter than me 🤣 there’s no pressure to be ‘good’ at it, as the weightloss aspect of the game is more important.
Holy crap, How does one find something like that
I’ve never enjoyed anything at all in my life.
Get a sword and hit things.
So we need to harness your disdain and hatred and work with that…
what do you hate most?
Opinionated software.
Perfect, Grok it is
I hike/walk daily with my dog. ~8km per day, although some days are shorter, some are longer.
is your dog Clifford?
No, not last I checked… Why?
still trying to get laid daily as a form of exercise…
well thats not going to happen.
activity causes pain and exhaustion, both things i am very much not fond of.
Have you tried biking? I like it because it’s so easy to zone out with (and easier on the knees than running).
You can buy a cheap standing bike and watch shows or read books; and, if you go outside to bike, you get the benefit of the sun and trees. If they have rentable electric bikes, those can make the exertion part easier (and, if it feels like cheating, it’s still more exercise than you’d’ve otherwise been getting; plus studies have shown that some people, with electric bikes, ride for longer periods than those who don’t because they’re having so much fun).
This is the way.
Well, shit.
wasn’t trying to be flippant or trivialize this but at the core it’s what is needed
I found that trying to distract or occupy my mind while trying to work wasn’t enough, for example watching a show or listening to music while using my row erg as a primary workout. Still found myself counting down the time and minutes
I climb shit. In the gym and outside. It feeds my inner child, it’s fun, it’s exciting, and it involves problem solving so stimulates the mind. Rowing and biking are now secondary exercises or activities to support my climbing fitness and ability. I find doing them with less intensity, less often, and as support (shorter duration) makes it easier for me to digest because I know it will better me for what I truly enjoy. Along the way you just may find yourself growing to accept, like or love something.
Kinda gotta find workable angles that suit your mind and goals. eventually you’ll have tricked yourself into becoming a healthy bastard who has some fun along the way
Sorry, I totally wasn’t trying to be dismissive either, but I think it came across like that. When depression gets bad it’s just hard to find anything enjoyable, and sticking with it anyway is real hard. I’ll just have to keep at it until something clicks I guess.
The other side of the coin is that it should be something that you do on a regular schedule with other people who you enjoy being around.
Fun and accountability are the keys.
Not the person you replied to, but I’ve also experienced depression. Just let me add that exercise doesn’t “feel good” either during or after a workout, but once it becomes part of the weekly routine, yes, let me repeat that- routine - the impact on mental health starts to show as well. It’s tricky because it’s not so much a “positive feeling”, instead, it takes the edge off the blues and anxiety.
I’ve also noticed the thoughts that swim in my head all the time tend to be more positive after a workout. This feels completely out of my control, if you ever tried meditation and found it really hard to clear your mind of thoughts you’ll know what I mean. But, for example, immediately after exercise I have a tendency to think or remember positive moments in my life or positive people. Worst case scenario, if I was on a trend of self sabotaging thoughts or constantly going over resentment and painful memories, those thoughts are likely to stop after a workout for a while. If I really want to I can of course think of whatever I want, but soon again I’ll catch myself with some positive thoughts.
My two cents. Hopefully this adds up.
I can emphasize.
I only found out with past 40 why that is, because I am a medically very curious case. Happy to have found out it’s not my fault but it still sucks the same.
Trial a load of sports. One will click.
Fast speed hike incline on treadmill
Put in earbuds, drum&bass
Disassociate for 1-2 hrs while staring at the food channel
Experiencing the benefits of strength training day to day (being able to move heavy shit easily and not struggle with things that I used to) also seeing how I look in the mirror after I do it helps.
I chart my improvements over time and equate them to role playing game experience points
Do 20 crunches? that’s +20 xp towards constitution
Really makes it a lot easier to reframe boring tasks
I’m really not a charting guy or a numbers guy at all. I hardly write anything down if i don’t have to. A few years ago i kept reading how much people enjoy running or jogging, so i gave it a shot. I absolutely hated it, but i kept doing it to see if it clicks at some point. Suddenly i saw big leaps in improvement. I still kinda hated running, but the “leveling up” part kept me going. I bought a smartwatch, and suddenly i had numbers and graphs to back the feeling up. I got obsessed.
A few variants I like:
- Weight lifting
I like the progression. It’s cool to see the numbers go up
- Cycling
It literally just makes me feel like a kid again, just flying around at quite high speeds. I’ve recently discovered that this is also a lot of fun to do with friends
- Walking
This is the one that helped me the furthest in weight loss back when I was overweight. You can do basically unlimited amounts of it, and with a podcast or audiobook in your headphones, it doesn’t really get boring either.
I got a recumbent exercise bike, a pawn shop tv, steam deck, and a steam controller. I play whatever is loaded on my deck while I bike, usually for about 30-45 minutes at a time.
Right now I am playing Fall Guys while I exercise, as it keeps me entertained on survival for ~10 minutes per game.
Work out watch star trek. By the season 4 you’ll be made of steel
Hold up. Which series? You starting with the original or with Next Generation?
That depends, how massive do you want to be?
Dance
Dance
REVOLUTION!!
(That rhythm game with the arrows on the screen and ground that you stomp on)
Find sports that you actually enjoy - try out different things. In my case:
- Cardio: running fucking sucks, swimming is boring as shit. Cycling, on the other hand, is pretty fun. Feels like flying when everything aligns.
- Strength: lifting weights at the gym is doable, but boring. Climbing? Hell yeah, give me more routes where I have to tie myself into a knot while pulling up all my weight with my fingertips.
It can be an exact opposite of it for you. Or you’ll find out that team sports are the bees knees because support from other people is what you’ve been missing.
I used to hate running until one day something clicked in my brain. I just ran my second half marathon last week. One thing I learned was that of your dying from running, you’re probably going too fast and should just slow down.
My PT told me that the best exercise is the one that you can do consistently
the runner’s high maybe? seems like it’s bad for your knees though.
Combining fun with short-term goals is what works for me. I started playing squash 10 years ago and I love it. I play 3 times a week and that takes care of most of my cardio. Now when I lift weights or do extra cardio, it is because I want to beat that guy from league, move up a division, etc. Open ended reasons like health or beauty were never enough motivation for me.
I want to beat that guy from league
Kinda same here. I want to argue with people. You know those people who promote their bs but you can’t disprove it since the others call you skinny or not strong enough.
Not sure if this answers the question; but, as soon as I learned about BDNF and how muscle building can increase the levels of it, I became a gym rat. I want my brain to keep working past 90 and be able to program well into my 90s (I wanna be yelling at everyone about my struggles with Rust).In all seriousness if you don’t wanna have dementia a little too early in life. Lift. Weights. Don’t ignore cardio though. But BUILD so you can reap the benefits of your lean mass into your elder years . Training also helps me improve my MTB performance, which I find really fun.
Sorry for the wall of text :D
Got any sources to read up on BDNF and working out? I just checked some stuff online but it’s mostly either ai-slop articles or science papers about the protein itself 😅
This stuff is incredibly complex to study. And every time I read a study I forget to archive it somewhere. We don’t have all of the answers, but studies like this one:https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37600508/
Really make me go, get your ass to the gym. No excuses.
And I suspect we are just looking at the tip of the iceberg here when it comes to things like BDNF. In short, exercise (specifically Strength Training and HIIT) seems well worth it since it is having some kind of effect on people who already have Alzheimer’s.
I wish the fitness industry promoted the practical and real cognitive benefits of strength training instead of using using people with eating disorders and six-packs(six-packs usually aren’t healthy by the way) to show/advertise the “perfect body”. When in reality they should be promoting how much it can help your cognition and mood. I might get heat for this, but I’ll say it anyway: I swear people would not have to take as many antidepressants in this country as they do if they just strength-trained twice a week. I see it in the software industry every day how people 15,20 years my senior (whom I respect since they are my mentors) and it hurts to see the beer gut and the lack of vitality (you can see this in someone’s face regardless of age) just because as programmers we are sitting all the time, and if you don’t fight the negative side effects of that with exercise your body will respond in nasty ways.
Thanks! I took a look at the studie and it’s “citations” and “cited by” articles. Sounds promising! I’ve got dementia / AD in the family, pretty sure I’m next in line in about 50 years. I’ve never heard about the topic but it seems pretty rigorously researched!
I climb, but not very often. Time to get the running shoes out and start getting some regular exercise in again.
Weight lifting can get stolen for all I care, I hate it 😂 But we have a forest exactly 3 minutes walk away, so time to get out in nature again!
I’m trying to do stuff that’s quick that I can do every day. I do pushups before my morning shower and some squats whilst I brush my teeth. Do it every day, I feel better for it and it only takes like 3 minutes. You can do extra sets around the house if you have a spare 30-60 seconds too.
Combine with work. Birds and stones.
