Bytes, my man, you need an archived link. https://nitter.net/PabloReports/status/1919822694477947003#m
Just curious, why?
Are we expecting the original to get deleted?
Trying to avoid fake tweets while also not sending traffic to Twitter.
Was the post edited since these comments? Because the image is just a screenshot they seem to have uploaded to slr.punk itself; it doesn’t go to Twitter at all.
A screenshot is worthless as a source.
You need a link to the post to prove the tweet is real, and an archived link to prove it was real in case it gets deleted.
Xcancel works better
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It’s just an x frontend that correctly embeds lol
Chang Chang
Lol, really? Was no other name available?
Spoiler: They do need a warrant.
Also “you are tresspassed” is a magical phrase that turns ICE agents into criminals and armed ICE agents into armed criminals that you can pull a weapon on.
Funnily enough the “second amendment” crowd has been completely silent about all this shit. But people really have to use those stand your ground laws.
I’ve given up on humanity after the racist Karen in Minneapolis raised a shitload of money off of a Christian based fundraising website while pretending to be the victim of calling a 5 year old racial slurs.
Like we have a problem. Society preinternet didn’t have this problem, society after internet didn’t have this problem you could be called a dick with no recourse.
Once society figured out you can just make money on being a racist asshole and be crowd funded for it, that’s when society went to shit
I saw that headline a few days ago. Was that all it took to make you give up on humanity? Trying to understand.
It’s a bunch of things combined but that just pushed me over the edge.
Understood. It’s a shame to lose you at the start of the fight, but get what you need to hang on and recover.
One strategy I’ve found helpful is taking little breaks from political news and spending time with those around you. It’s been a good antidote for the despair of the news cycle.
And if you need someone to talk to I’m here.
I’ve taken a big step back from most apps and social media in general, unless I’m playing Xbox online for 2 hours after 10p’m hardly using the Internet for anything else. .
Plus just got done with daughters club volleyball, now it’s onto softball season… working with her on pitching have to use a lot of YouTube for that because I don’t know how to pitch fast softball. So we’re both sort of learning as we go.
She’s got a Canon for a arm. Like has made my hand hurt on multiple occasions from 40 feet for only being 11. Ive been trying to teach accuracy over speed and a actual coach said not to do that. If they have natural speed. Let them pitch fast and ccuracy will come later.
She’s improved. I’d say 3/10 are strikes, 5/10 will probably get someone to swing at. The other two watch your shins or head 😅. Or in my case sitting on a 5 gallon bucket, the family jewelry. Have had a few close calls
Sorry for delay. Had to take care of a few things offline.
step back from social media
That’s pretty huge. Everyone I’ve known who did that said it improved their life and mental health in lots of ways, and the harder their exit the more enthusiastic they were. Tried it myself back in 2012, and stuff probably wasn’t even as bad back then, but deleting google facebook twitter snap etc really did help me build better relationships and enjoy life more. I still text/chat people and use some forums like lemmy but never have to worry about an algorithm trying to fuck with my head lol
daughter mobile softball turret
That is wonderful! While I don’t have kids, I know the feeling of helping young people discover things they’re good at and it’s deeply gratifying. Really cool that you’re there to practice with her too. Having a parent who’s there isn’t a given yet helps so much with basically everything.
3/10 strikes 5/10 swing
From what I understand of baseball rules, that would mean like 8/10 over the plate or close enough for the hitter to attempt? 80% success sounds damn good for a new player. Is it possible she has some natural athleticism and/or hand-eye coordination?
learning together
Ditto re: softball knowledge; could only guess where to begin. Did see a few rounds of a softball game at a pub once and noticed the pitcher would deliberately bounce the ball, which I thought wasn’t a thing in regular baseball. Is this something pitchers in her league practice, like a type of pitch?
Our species is trash - it has nothing to do with the news cycle. There are just too many fucking stupid people that are being allowed to shit out legions of children.
I sincerely wish there was a virus that killed people who were “too dumb.” It’d be much more peaceful…
#ThanosWasOntoSomething
#HeWasntAndYouKnowIt
The solution to ignorance is knowledge, not eugenics. Also get your ass into therapy before hate consumes you.
I’m not a big 2A guy, but I’m more than well armed and practiced, and I haven’t shut up about shooting anyone attempting these kidnappings.
Most of the second amendment crowd have a “daddy” fetish and want to be ruled by a strongman figure. Mostly cuckish cowards
That and the 2a isn’t necessary for resistance. Been done in places without it obviously.
And yes, seems most of them seem quite happy with the current situation. Funny that.
Yep. The common myth is that 2A is for defence against tyranny, but it’s clearly about having people armed and trained to be ready to fight if they’re needed against an invading nation. That’s what the military was in the day: militias, not standing armies.
2A is broken and shouldn’t apply to the modern day, but that doesn’t really matter. It doesn’t matter why we are allowed to have weapons, just that we are and we should defend against those trying to intrude on the rights of others.
Militia is army in Latin, but in the day it already meant how people generally understand it now.
Also you are notoriously wrong about “not standing armies”, people were recruited and served for many years. Of course militaries were scaled up and down depending if it was wartime. Mandatory conscription and mobilization were a new tendency that, in some sense, led to WWI.
I think I want to play “Victoria” again.
2A is broken and shouldn’t apply to the modern day, but that doesn’t really matter.
Yes! Glad you understand that.
There’s a dialectic law with constitutional rights - if they are not on paper, then someone might say they don’t exist. If they are on paper, then someone might say they are given by that paper and exactly as much as written and intended.
Rights just exist, they are a transcendent object that can’t be defined or limited by laws.
I’ve been called a sovcit for saying that, despite it being pretty logical that if rights are limited and defined by law, then over time you’ll have fewer and fewer rights and not vice versa.
Rights just exist, they are a transcendent object that can’t be defined or limited by laws.
I don’t think rights exist in any meaningful way unless enforced / people agree to follow them. They’re just norms in a nicer suit. There’s no external referee that’s going to stop the game because “your rights are being violated”.
Yeah but in this county only law enforcement can trespass someone.
And they likely won’t.
Owner / caretaker of any property can trespass anyone on their property. Law enforcement included. Which is why they need a warrant.
Only law enforcement can enforce the trespass. But you are trespassed when informed by a person with authority over the property that your presence is not welcome there. If they fail to leave, you can follow up in the courts.
Hmm, I would check your local law. That is not how it generally works. If someone is on your property and you tell them to leave and that they are trespassed, then they have to leave. Failure to leave is almost always a crime in progress.
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Stand your ground
I wouldn’t be surprised if some cop who ate there wasn’t happy with the service he got and organised this shenanigan
Cops will take as much freedom as you give them and often they will attempt more than they have been granted. Never give cops an inch they are not legally entitled to. In democracies, laws exist to grant people freedom from the power of the state, not to grant the state freedom from the power of the people. Any laws that grant cops protection from the people are laws of a tyranny. We get only the protections of the state that our rights make possible and no more. Trading freedom for security gets us neither.
In democracies, laws exist to grant people freedom from the power of the state, not to grant the state freedom from the power of the people. Any laws that grant cops protection from the people are laws of a tyranny. We get only the protections of the state that our rights make possible and no more. Trading freedom for security gets us neither.
Correction: In democracies, laws exist to grant power to the state, not to grant people freedom from the state. For example, I’m guessing that in your nearest democracy, there’s probably not a law granting you the freedom to stand still for more than a minute or lie down for more than a minute. The people’s freedom is a default.
Now, perhaps what you were thinking of was that some laws have exceptions (that might be phrased as affirmative defenses). But those aren’t granting freedom to the people, they are restricting law enforcement. It’s like a “tax refund” — the government isn’t giving you their money, it’s returning your own money.
They need a warrant
At some point, someone is going to fire the first shot. Then it’s open season on ICE agents. And you know what? I’m okay with that.
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I do wonder how all the “violence is never the answer” folks will go if it comes to that. I think a lot of them would side with ICE, sadly.
Personally, I won’t be upset if a would-be nazi meets an abrupt end to their career.
Violence is not the answer. Violence is the question. And the answer is “Yes”
That reads like a Cave Johnson quote.
when life asks you if violence is the answer, you BURN THEIR HOUSE DOWN with the LEMON BOMBS‼️‼️
Yes! He’s saying what we’re all thinking!
“Violence is never the answer” types are just controlled opposition. Any and every peaceful protest that doesn’t have the risk of escalating to violence can and is just ignored. Did those anti war protests against Bush II’s wars ever amount to anything?
I’m inclined to agree. Unfortunately, a lot of moderators on lemmy and other sites have a very strong “no calls for violence” stance.
Let me be clear to any moderators here: I am not telling people to get an ICE agent pelt. I am simply predicting it will happen and choosing not to be upset about it.
We’re just talking about history here. No one’s calling for violence.
Like violence and threats in the past are okay, but never in the present?
What did I say that was a threat?
If you’re inciting violent civil insurgency, you’re a criminal in the present. If successful, you may be accepted, even celebrated, retrospectively. It’s not a question of right or wrong, but of who is currently in power.
You’re absolutely right with thinking they’ll stick with ICE. People who value Status Quo over all else (“it hurts my head thinking about the world changing, why can’t everything just stay the same???”) always have and always will capitulate to Fascist regimes, because it removes the need for critical thought and the obligation to stand for anything. Moderates will be the death of us if we let them.
It’s not a new thought. There’s the grey hypocritical mass that obeys, which is the main body behind any fascist regime.
BTW, von Stauffenberg was pretty extreme right, yet he tried to assassinate Hitler, it’s not known of any moderates trying to do that.
Ooops. Sounds like you accidentally picked up a Texas MAGA “history” book? Or maybe one covering the 18th century or before?
Or maybe one covering the 18th century or before?
Have you ever heard about the WW2?
Read some news.
Countries simply taking land they want, killing millions, and getting away with it is still a thing.
The colonies didn’t resort to violence when unfairly taxed, they just offered a tea party.
I hope to see a time when it’s commonly accepted that Starship Troopers is not a fascist book, just a smart one.
The movie does, of course, accuse it of being fascist while pretending it’s satire.
Anyway, in history the conflict seemed like “military with the fascists or under fascists, and often helping fascists”, but in a lot of modern situations it seems that militaries are the component fascists fear most and try to neuter or spend in useless wars or corrupt. Every period of history is different. So maybe Starship Troopers being militarist is not a fascist trait too.
how all the “violence is never the answer”
Which is implicit support for covert, hidden violence. The stronger side, the government, the mafia have an advantage in that. The people have an advantage in open violence between the resistance and them.
It just appears that a lot of people are like “I won’t support violence until it’s bad enough”, well, how those dorks would know it’s bad enough if when violence is unacceptable nobody can resist or raise their voice and it all remains silent until too late? You don’t know when it’s bad enough. You can live your whole remaining life thinking it’s still fine, because all the worthy people have been killed\imprisoned silently.
A citizen doesn’t owe a state any reservation in citizen’s demands. A citizen not having that doesn’t hurt the society, quite the opposite. So if you feel that the situation demands reservation from you, for some supposedly good reasons, then it means it’s very bad. All conflicts in life are too hard and require all your effort and you still often lose, so being reserved for some supposed moral rule without good explanation is not an answer, it’s a scam, a Troyan horse, it means your are being deceived to give up without a fight. Probably that you already have.
These guys probably weren’t even ICE. At this point, treat it like an attempted kidnapping, or better yet, an attempted ‘robbing’ of your employees, and give them a free sample of buckshot.
The footage and other complaints I’ve seen it could be both. Thugs either way.
🎶 Stack em high. Stack em high. While they gurgle bleed and die! 🎶
What are the odds it was a couple magats pretending to be ICE to fuck with immigrants or people the think are immigrants.
They sell fake ICE federal agent jackets too. the Maga people pretending to be ICE could at least have the dignity to spend the 28 bucks on an ice jacket. Trying to get by with just a walkie talkie and a plain manila folder with no documents in it is a disappointing performance. They sell FBI, ATF and police ones too.
https://printerval.com/ice-federal-agent-3d-hoodies-p587374667
Odds are pretty damn good, I’d say.
Still, it’s a distinction barely worth making. Garden varity pigs doing this shit are equally as unjust as brand name Pigs doing it.
Depressingly high.
But also…depressingly low. The fact that they couldve been actual govt officials behaving this way is…worse?
The only disappointing part of the article is that the 2 brown shirts continued to live.
“Batches? We doan need no stinking batches!”
So how long until real criminals start following suit and impersonating undercover ICE agents? Not like there’s much distinction between either “career” now, is there?
And then how long until ICE agents start showing up with holes on the ground because property owners “thought” they were real street thugs trying to rob them? Is there even a way to tell the difference? ~wink wink~
How long? Negative three months, apparently: https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/04/us/ice-impersonators-on-the-rise-arrests-made-as-authorities-issue-national-warning/index.html
They’d be caught out too quickly.
“Hey, wait a second! Yeah, you’re holding me at gunpoint but you’re asking me to put the money in the bag? But real ICE would have just kidnapped me!”
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And then how long until ICE agents start showing up with holes on the ground because property owners “thought” they were real street thugs trying to rob them? Is there even a way to tell the difference? ~wink wink~
Should happen more often, this aversion to civil violence is a bit like a game of “I drop my weapon, you drop yours” between governments and people, except governments never fulfill their part.
Like Russian opposition trying to do “everything by the law” until realizing the other side never was, it was just silent enough in killing and randomly vanishing people and pretending its just dumb thieves. The same is happening in the EU right now, they just don’t know it yet.
Only way. Fight back hard…
