A better comparison would be if the old doctor wouldn’t perform the surgery himself, but a team of highly skilled, younger doctors.
Especially if when you asked him if anyone else could do the surgery, and he drifted off, rambled on a bit, then eventually said only “lord God” would prevent him from doing the surgery no matter what anyone else said…
It’s fucking insane so many people are defending him. They act like the president is meaningless but also that it has to be Biden. And they can’t give a single reason that isn’t easily disprovable.
They’ve tied their identity to Biden like trumpets to trump.
But like, at least with trump I get how idiots would fall for it. I have no idea why it’s happening with Biden.
Because the other option is to support Trump. People don’t like Biden, they’re defending him because the other option is still worse
There is still time to replace Biden. After the convention there won’t be and a lot of ‘we need to replace Biden’ folks will return to supporting Biden because there is no other alternative. Until then they have an entirely justifiable voice.
The problem is that you can replace him with a better candidate, but that doesn’t mean the new candidates chances of winning are better. The DNC has to put up the candidate that gives the best chance of winning, not necessarily the best candidate.
I remember being told that exactly in the primary caucus in 2016 by a smug boomer when I was making the case for Bernie.
How did that turn out?
I agreed with this in 2020, but am far from convinced this time around. As much as folks like to bury their head in the sand about Biden’s troubles, they are way more of an issue than in 2020, anyone who doesn’t at least see that is not being honest with themselves or wilfully delusional.
They might still think that even with Biden’s deterioration he’s the better candidate, but he still actually needs to be elected and I’m. It convinced the majority agree any more.
A much younger candidates with centrist tendencies would at least be able to present a vision that is more that ‘I can beat the other guy’ and lay out a vision that, as middle ground as it might be, could get folks motivated again.
a vision that is more that ‘I can beat the other guy’
As was the case here in the UK, it’s all they need to manufacture consent to maintain the status quo at best. In reality, the descent towards fascism continues no matter who is elected, and it will continue to do so as long as we play by the rules those in power have set out for us.
Because the other option is to support Trump
Being given that illusion, doesn’t mean that’s actually the case. There are other options, they just involve more than bare minimum action, including the discomfort of confronting and unlearning the indoctrination we’ve been put through from birth, and facing up to the fact that the system is rigged by design and is working as intended, and that no matter which of the teams you pick, neither is there to serve you or society, but the owning class, and themselves, and that only playing by the rules they have set out will never result in that changing.
It’s fucking insane so many people are defending him.
It’s not. I only defend him when the criticism isn’t valid and he’s not even my president. People actively ignore that he has a speech impediment. People on this site repeat the lie that he has dementia. And everyone who remotely dislikes him keeps calling him genocide Joe as if he’s the one orchestrating the whole Israeli-Palestinian conflict alone, ignoring the history and political context.
They’ve tied their identity to Biden like trumpets to trump.
I hardly think that’s true. Biden’s personality is boring old white guy with no swag.
Stop the lies.
Don’t stop defending, the internet needs more users like you.
The world is where it is due to the sociopathic belief, lie now, figure out how to put out the fire later.
People actively ignore that he has a speech impediment.
You know Biden has been on camera for decades, right?
1988, literally called the greatest orator of his generation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R1GB-6aIPw
2008, still great:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89FbCPzAsRA
2012 debates, this is when his childhood stutter came back, because he’s almost 70 (get into that below) but he’s still lucid and very on top of his game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYcdSwbrErI
2020, lots of people had doubts, but between him and trump he squeaked out a very narrow win:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLvKaUi8VXw
Now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFyBapzgbSs
He had a childhood speech impediment. When someone overcomes that, it’s because of a semi-concious action in the prefrontal cortex. As we age, that’s one of the first parts of our brains that takes a hit. And it is very easy to write off damage for years, but it’s accumulating.
That same part of the brain handles critical thinking, controlling emotions, and overcoming impliciti bias which is why there’s a stereotype of people “getting” racist as they age. They’re literally losing the part of the brain that say people outside of their in-group might not be murderers and thieves.
You don’t have to take my word for it. There is literal decades of science about how aging effects the brain.
Look at those videos. Biden isn’t starting down this path, he’s pretty fucking far down it, and were discussing if he can run the country during a fascist takeover.
You know Biden has been on camera for decades, right?
These rhetorical questions sound very condescending.
Yes, I know the basics of neurology and anatomy. I also know that you’re less likely to focus and use those mental functions if you’re exhausted from travel and sickness, which I’ve experienced before at less than half his age.
There is literal decades of science about how aging effects the brain.
Yes, geriatrics is a branch of medicine.
My point about his stutter is that people are pretending that he’s far worse than he is because he struggled that night with his speech. He’s not excellent and yet not outright incapable because his executive functions are all there. You can piece together what he’s trying to say but it’s just not coming out how he intends to. The format of the event where he gets cut off instead of taking a deep breath and trying again unfortunately accentuates it. And if he’s still incumbent and doing fine without any obvious characteristic signs of severe mental decline that are not expected for his age, why should we focus so hard on it? You can see that he’s fine in the ABC interview.
And I will not accept your claim that his stutter was only during his teenage years. Those are life-long conditions. I should know because I have one.
Yes, I know the basics of neurology and anatomy. I also know that you’re less likely to focus and use those mental functions if you’re exhausted from travel and sickness,
Did you not watch the interview?
He was back 12 days from the overseas trip before the debate, and Biden contradicted himself by saying it wasn’t a virus and then it was a cold.
Seriously, it’s a good interview, they brought up a lot of tough questions and would repeat when he wouldn’t answer.
My point about his stutter is that people are pretending that he’s far worse than he is because he struggled that night with his speech
But it was far worse than a stutter…
I literally just gave you a 36 year timeline of his public speaking abilities…
and doing fine without any obvious characteristic signs of severe mental decline that are not expected for his age, why should we focus so hard on it?
Because “for his age” is him breaking his own world record for “oldest American president”…
And four years ago it was already a valid concern.
You can see that he’s fine in the ABC interview.
I can not…
The one that I linked for “now” up there?
Like, even if you mean you personally consider that “fine” theres noway that you can think people don’t have a valid reason to question after the interview.
And I will not accept your claim that his stutter was only during his teenage years.
Fine, but I can’t provide links of every single time Biden spoke publicly on video and expect you to watch all of it to verify.
You just need to find one video of Biden stuttering before 2012 when I said it came back. Hell, let’s just say the 2012 video I linked. Give me a timestamp where he’s as bad as he is now and I’ll say I’m wrong.
Those are life-long conditions.
You think it’s literally impossible to overcome a stutter?
I don’t think you understand how common stuttering was back then for kids. Biden got rid of it by fifth grade, completely gone with no trace before he went to college.
Like, it happens now less commonly, but how do you think everyone with a childhood stutter continues to have a stutter? And how is Biden so special his disappeared for 60 years?
it’s fear mostly. If the democrat candidate changed this late in the run, it significantly lessens the chance that the party will win, and to a lot of them, they see it as a “I can’t vote for trump” type vote. Personally I feel if he drops out now, the party wouldn’t recover in time for election cycle which would basically give trump the win.
But that fear is hypothetical, we’ve never tried it.
We do know what happened to Jimmy Carter and trump. The last two incumbents that ran for elections with approval numbers similar to Biden.
I just can’t imagine a single person willing to vote Biden but not for any other D nominee.
So I don’t understand how any replacement can be considered worse than Biden.
Where are those “only Biden” voters?
If theryre the same ones that voted against Obama, well, there wasn’t enough to matter back then either.
I more or less agree with that, it’s just I do know there will be people that wanted to vote exclusively Biden who will no longer vote because it wouldn’t be biden. And I believe it’s going to put the Democratic Party in the same situation the Republican party was when Trump originally started running again where it will basically split the party only this time instead of it happening super early in the campaign cycle it will happen super late in the campaign cycle therefore wouldn’t have the time to mend itself. Especially with him sharing similar ideologies with his campaign interests and not dropping
it’s just I do know there will be people that wanted to vote exclusively Biden who will no longer vote because it wouldn’t be biden
I mean, the DNC isn’t putting a progressive in the race, it’s almost certainly gonna be Kamala if it happens.
If there are some who will only vote for Biden (I doubt it) I just can’t see them not coalescing around the DNCs pick.
Even if they do, it’ll be like 08 PUMA where it turned out to be just an incredibly vocal but tiny group
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Too late to change the system now if you play the voting game. Elect Biden and the rest of the Democrats who will NOT turn the USA into a fascist state in the next four years, THEN start enacting real change to put a genuine Left candidate in that will actually push this country forward when they’re elected in four years.
If you want to play the voting game, that’s how you play. The only other alternative is revolution and enable the “alter or abolish” option right the fuck now.
Make your choice of those two things. The “lol, I won’t vote” or “gonna vote Trump anyway” “option” is just alt-right Trumpery disguised as being concerned about a second Biden presidency for any reason.
You are the kind of Northern racists that MLK Jr dealt with that would say “time will fix this” and that those looking for equality needed to just quiet down and not be a bother.
Now, is always better than later. Change must happen even if you feel it inconveniences you and that order is more important than justice. You have no idea what the future holds but we have now.
Some of us are trying to seize a moment to actually make this country worth living in. And it doesn’t involve voting for Trump like your brand of idiots think is the only option. If you are so comfortable that it doesn’t matter to you then get out of the way.
A half decent candidate would tank Trump.
I heard this excuse in 2016 with Hilary.
Hilary sucked. she just expected to win, like it was her turn. fuck that, bring something to the table instead of just a name. trump won because it was a show for him and idiots ate it up. Hilary played her “better than thou” card and got wrecked.
Ok, Trumptard. Guaranteed you didn’t listen to a single thing Clinton said in the entire campaign and just listened to “ME TRUMP BEST NUMBER ONE VOTE ME” and you’re now cosplaying as a “Trump followers are idiots” person.
nah, Hilary was pretty shit candidate. trump was worse, a much shittier person over all, but I’m only one vote. she lost what should have been a free pass with her shit attitude and looking down on everyone.
but I appreciate your input! 🙂
Trump was and is a worse person. Clinton was a worse candidate.
Hillary didn’t rise to that level.
What a shit take that doesn’t equate
How did you take Biden saying he’d only step aside if the Lord Almighty came down, and that when confronted with being behind in multiple polls by 7 points that he’s fine if he loses as long as he tried his best?
It’s a dumb take because it doesn’t make any sense. I mean you’re talking about a position where the person can (and has multiple times) literally die on the job and someone will just step in and pick up where they left off. This example makes it seem like if the president dies or even just loses the presidential race then so does every person in the country or something lol.
I get the spirit of what they’re trying to say and even lrgely agree with it but it’s just a super bad analogy.
People don’t want to think and want to just assume everything will be fine. They have the right idea and everyone else is wrong and as soon as they can get everyone else to agree to that it will all be better.
This is why the Democrats will lose. If he’s got a lab coat on he must be a doctor and must be competent because he is a doctor. Getting a new one would just be too complicated.
This is why it’s so easy to lie to people. They want to be lied to. They will even do it to themselves.
Biden is not a good choice but it’s an easy one that requires no internal pushback just have to fix everyone else’s thoughts on him.
Yeah good luck.
I’m so tired of people trying to get famous by dunking on Biden.
Is he old? Yes. Out of touch? Yes. Does he misspeak? Frequently. Is he publicly supporting Israel while Netanyahu engages in human rights atrocities and crimes against humanity? Also yes. Is Biden a centrist oligarch who represents a status quo continuation of the devout capitalist policies that are rapidly destroying the world? Sure.
But he’s still better than Trump. And he’s the best chance we have at defeating Trump. America can survive a second Biden presidency. We will have a lot of work to do, but it will be worth doing. The USA will not survive another Trump presidency. It will be the end of the experiment, and the beginning of a whole new nightmare.
So Biden must win.
To that end, I have a modest proposal for the armchair pundits on Xitter, all the comics and authors and panelists hoping to make it to the next cable news roundtable as a contributor. When Biden does the next stupid thing, makes the next gaffe, fucks up again (Jesus fuck, did he say he’s a minority woman?), whatever, whenever you come up with that perfect burn, the clever observation that is going to go viral and get eyes on your name, feel free to share it. Biden is not King, regardless of what the SCOTUS* would have us believe, so he is not immune to criticism. But when you post it, include the addendum “But I’m still voting for him, because Trump would be worse.” Make it part of your signature, or shorten it to BISVFH to conserve characters.
Doing this will help all the rest of us reading your comments, so we don’t feel the need to explain to you why you should still vote for Biden. It will also help us more quickly identify the foreign agents and online trolls who exist to stir up discord and assist Trump.
Biden sucks. He really does. But I’m still voting for him, because Trump would be worse.
And he’s the best chance we have at defeating Trump
Have you seen the polls lately? You’re riding a dead horse.
Biden is polling 10-15% below of where he was 4 years ago, back when he barely defeated Trump.
How do you propose Biden will make up that ground? Do you think he has a strategy to pull off the biggest electoral comeback in our lifetime?
You can make a futile attempt at policing anti-Biden comments, but it’s not going to stem the bleeding. Normal Americans can see the dementia written all over Biden’s confused face. They can hear it everytime he struggles through another incomplete, mumbled sentence.
I hate Kamala too, but I hope the DNC pushes her forward- at least she has a shot at stopping Trump.
Kamala is polling worse than Biden. Is she really your best option?
Tell me your plan. How is she going to turn it around between now and November? What can Kamala do that Biden can’t? How is she going to avoid the appearance that the Democrats don’t care what their primary voters think?
Kamala is already in the race. What could she do at the top of the ticket that she can’t do now?
And if it’s not Harris, then who? Give me a name, and then answer all of those questions for that person.
Well it seems a bit unfair since no one answered my questions, but I’ll bite.
Kamala Harris has lower poll numbers because she has not been campaigning for herself. Being at the bottom of the ticket is not the same.
Once she is nominee, she will have hundreds of millions of dollars to sell herself to the American people. She will be front and center in campaign rallies, press briefings, high profile interviews, and (hopefully) the debate stage against Trump.
What can Kamala do that Biden can’t? She can speak without showing obvious signs of dementia.
It’s been 8 years of Trump vs. Biden, most voters know where they stand in that race. But Harris vs. Trump means voters can reevaluate their position and get a fresh view. Democrats are being destroyed in the polls, they desperately need a refresh.
I think most people don’t care about their primary votes- remember it was mostly Biden vs. Uncommitted. People understand it was not a real primary when theres only 1 viable option on the ballot. I think the overwhelming majority of the party will gladly adopt Harris now that Biden has shown how bad his dementia is progressing.
Kamala is not charismatic, her politics suck, but at least her brain works well enough so that she would have a shot at beating Trump.
It’s sad that the standard we set is “better than Trump”, particularly given that Trump is the epitome of no standards whatsoever.
Extremely sad. But that’s still the standard, which is why I’m still voting for Biden. Maybe after the election, and Trump and his cronies are actually behind bars, we can worry about 2026 and electing some actual progressive leaders. But the puppet masters behind Trump, the Project 2025 dipshits, they’re not going to go away quietly. Fascists never do.
Biden sucks. He really does. But I’m still voting for him, because Trump would be worse
This is what most voters likely to vote Biden say.
But for you, would you say there’s any Dem that you wouldn’t vote for?
Do you think that answer is common among people willing to vote for Biden?
And shouldn’t we run the person who most voters are willing to vote for because Trump is such a threat?
I would vote for anyone opposite Trump.
I don’t believe that a plurality of voters would vote for anyone opposite Trump. I’m not narcissistic enough to think everyone thinks like me. I recognize that most voters don’t follow politics, don’t engage with the news, and don’t really care much about learning who the candidates are.
The most important factor for all elections everywhere is name recognition. People want to feel like they know what they’re doing, even if they have made zero effort to engage in the process.
It is far too late for anyone other than Biden to introduce themselves to America.
Trump doesn’t need to convince people to vote for him. His acolytes will show up to vote. Trump just needs to convince everyone who won’t vote for him that it’s pointless to go to the polls. One neat little gift the DNC could give to Trump would be to say to all Democrats that their primaries don’t matter and there’s no reason to vote. Annointing a new candidate now, after people have cast their votes, would be a giant fuck you to every voter who has been screaming for better candidates over the last 6 years. Nothing will kill enthusiasm for voting quicker than passing the buck to someone new.
And let’s say they do pick someone else. They haven’t been vetted or tested. They haven’t campaigned in any states. They haven’t built the infrastructure or donor network or legal team. What if the new candidate has a scandal? Does the party hand the baton to yet another candidate? Should we leave the ballots blank? Do like a MLB trade, where we all vote for “A candidate to be named at a later date.”
Like it or not, we are stuck with Biden for this one. February 1st, we can all start talking about if he should step down, who should be Harris’ VP, whether the Dems have someone that can win in 2028, etc.
I’m curious, though, who is your candidate? You get to hand pick the name on the ballot across from Trump, who is it? Whitmer or Newsom? Buttigieg or Shapiro? If they are so great, why aren’t you calling to replace Harris on the ticket? I mean, that’s the stronger play, right? If you wanted Harris, you could just argue that a vote for Biden is a vote for Harris, because he’s really old and can resign as soon as he is sworn in. That’s the best of both strategies.
But it’s not Harris. So why not replace her on the ballot with your dream candidate? It solves the primary problem, since people were casting votes for Biden, and he’s still on the ballot. Plus, then the new person can introduce themselves to America, and Harris can retire to write her book.
I would vote for anyone opposite Trump
So why argue against people trying to get a better candidate?
- You and everyone else willing to vote for Biden, will vote for any Dem.
- Some people don’t want trump, but won’t vote Biden.
- There exist other politicians who can be the Dem nominee.
Conclusion: Sticking with Biden, becomes the worst chance at beating trump.
Don’t worry about anything else, just look at that logic.
Can you find any flaw in it?
But just so you don’t keep asking:
I’m curious, though, who is your candidate?
AOC
But again. All we’re talking about who can beat Trump. And if that logic up there isn’t something you disagree with, let me know. Just stripping this all down to a pure logic thing.
I’m optimistic this will work.
So why argue against people trying to get a better candidate?
Because I don’t believe you are trying to get a better candidate. I believe you are trying to attack Biden so that Trump wins. Your arguments are ridiculous and nonsensical.
- You and everyone else willing to vote for Biden, will vote for any Dem.
I already answered this one. I don’t believe it is “and everyone else.” I’m only speaking for myself.
- Some people don’t want trump, but won’t vote Biden.
Yes, some people don’t want Trump but won’t vote for Biden. There are more people who won’t vote for someone they don’t know. I don’t believe the former group outnumbers the latter.
- There exist other politicians who can be the Dem nominee.
No, there are no other politicians who both can and want to be the nominee right now. None.
Conclusion: Sticking with Biden, becomes the worst chance at beating trump.
You only reach that conclusion if you want Trump to win.
Don’t worry about anything else, just look at that logic.
Can you find any flaw in it?
I cannot find any logic, so I also can’t find any flaws.
But just so you don’t keep asking:
I’m curious, though, who is your candidate?
AOC
This reveals you aren’t serious at all. Every progressive would love to see AOC in the White House, but no true progressives are delusional enough to think she shouls challenge Joe Biden for the nomination. AOC has no interest in running for President, and has zero chance of raising the money or infrastructure required to mount a legitimate campaign. You might as well have named Jon Stewart or Kermit the Frog.
But again. All we’re talking about who can beat Trump. And if that logic up there isn’t something you disagree with, let me know. Just stripping this all down to a pure logic thing.
Again, no logic, just distractions.
I’m optimistic this will work.
I don’t believe you. But if you’re serious, grow up.
Thanks for responding!
If it took two days I’m sure that means you gave it an honest try.
Well, you complained that I didn’t respond, and wrote the same comment twice, so I figured it meant a lot to you.
Look I’m from Missouri, I will vote for a dead guy again if I have to. Because the other choice is fascism.
If the dead guy is going to lose and you can pick a live candidate thst supports your platform that will win, will you still run the dead guy and lose?
I’m still willing to hear a viable candidate and how that would work less than half a year before an election. In order for us to have another nominee we have to do something to get someone else to put their name on a ticket. That actions might create a bit of a loophole where any party could run a lame duck candidate in the primary, won, and go on to basically pull that candidate for “cognitive decline”.
What I believe will happen, based on our laws and our history, is w.ell have another Al Gore moment where the vote gets split and we get a Republican as a result. And since right now the Republican is Donald “I touch 13 year Olds” Trump, I’m gonna ask you why a sane person would choose to let Trump become president.
and how that would work less than half a year before an election.
Normal countries don’t have elections that last over half a year. It’s clearly workable everywhere else, and it’s not like the people already voting Biden are going to not vote for whoever the Dem candidate is.
I don’t buy that it would cause confusion or somehow be less viable to change candidates; this isn’t 1880, we have phones and TVs and the internet now. If the candidate changed as little as a month before the election everyone would still know what was going on, even if was a huge pain in the ass to account for in terms of ballots.
"Normal countries don’t have"I’m gonna stop you right there. Because what I am asking is how it works for this election at this time with our constitution, laws, and regulations. Because that is what is pertinent now in the event that he steps down.
As for the bit about them voting for any democrat on the ticket (we know historically that’s not what happens), this is literally what happened with Hilary Clinton. It caused so few people who otherwise might have voted not to vote that we got Donald Trump as president for a first term. It’s not about confusion. It’s about people being disheartened enough to think it doesn’t matter. And believing in the super majority of democrats who will vote so they don’t have to. Because not voting is a form of protest.
People would still know. But the whole reason the media is playing up the age and health of the president currently is to convince people not to vote. And it’s working. There are people in this country who voted for Trump in protest because Bernie Sanders was not ok the ticket.
Because what I am asking is how it works for this election at this time with our constitution, laws, and regulations.
The convention hasn’t even happened! Biden isn’t even officially the candidate yet!
I’m sorry but who the fuck is going to not vote or vote for Trump because Biden isn’t the candidate? Nobody loves the dude.
Why ask him to step down if they can choose someone else. He is the official candidate as voted for in the primary. The primary is over. And if you’re gonna stick your head in the sand and believe that people are going to just vote for whoever they happen to put up as a democrat I’m gonna need you to look back on the 2016 election like I said because we already know this has happened before. If you think it can’t happen again you’re part of the problem.
He is the official candidate as voted for in the primary.
Cool, he’s still not the official candidate because he hasn’t been selected at the convention yet. If you’re going to lecture someone for not knowing how the system works you should at least understand that the primaries don’t actually select the candidate, the convention does.
“We have to run a weak candidate that polls like shit because the last time we did this exact same thing we lost but it’ll work this time” is the real head in the sand stance.
I’m sorry but who the fuck is going to not vote or vote for Trump because Biden isn’t the candidate?
I’m starting to think the answer is “every centrist on lemmy.”
Was it a facist play when the DNC propped up Biden and forced in Kamala even though the base was behind Bernie and Kamala was so bad the she was forced to drop out early in the primaries? How come no one talks about that being facist?
Let’s be fucking real here. The party head figures will be running the white house if biden gets in.
Still better than Trump, anything is better than Trump.
Is that ok? No. Is this a “you you want one bullet in the head or two bullets?” Yeah, pretty much though the the two bullets will first shoot you in the balls for fun. Chose one bullet, please
That wouldnt be so bad, but people vote for brands, not policy or administration
Yeah, I will at least know what to expect, and not have to worry about them speeding running the creation of a fascistic theocracy.
Let’s compare that to “Dr. Trump” who would tell you people say he’s the best doctor, the best surgeon, the other doctor is a stupid poopy head who can’t golf, then no-show for your lifesaving operation and say only suckers and losers get cancer. But he’d still take your money.
Ok so what?
You can’t get rid of him that’s not the part of the game that we have any control of.
So, so what?
Well, you can technically [redacted for legal reasons].
Makes you start to wonder about the logistics of martyrdom.
Your response is “don’t talk about the other guy?” You can get rid of him if you vote.
Edit: Ah, you’re one of those Defeatist Democrats. Are you astroturf or for real? Your political comment history amounts to Trump sucks, but Biden and the democrats suck more because that’s the only choice we have. Did I mention that Biden and the democrats suck? Because they do.
Yeah my response is don’t fucking devote all your attention and emotion to how the other dude is worse.
I can’t get rid of him if I vote and yet 75% of the country doesn’t.
You can’t just run a dead fish and keep pointing at the hills saying there is a wolf coming any minute now so buy my dead fish. Eventually people stop believing the kid crying wolf and everyone gets eaten.
Passive tactics that keep you feeling comfortable are just hospice for a democracy you don’t care about anymore. That is on you and your kind for why I feel defeated.
Edit: the Democrats suck because it’s the only part we as a party should have any influence over and they haven’t listened to constituents in a few decades. Democrat voters can’t pick the Republican nominee we can only pick who goes up against them and we haven’t for over 3 elections now.
Deal with the fascist first. Deal with the party after.
That isn’t very hard to figure out.
And how many times will we have to keep dealing with the fascist before realizing dealing with the party will help deal with the fascists?
Cause this won’t end in 4 years if Biden wins he will just be unable to run again.
It seems to be going over your head that doing nothing but kicking the can down the road doesn’t deal with any problem at all.
Ah, see…that’s where you’ve gone wrong. There is no “finish line”. There is no hands-off autopilot for human society. It’s a never-ending slog against all those people who want to game or corrupt the system for their own uses - which is almost always power or money, but often enough just to wreck everything because they want to watch the world burn.
Do you understand that?
There are only temporary victories that are immediately followed by trying to keep building the infrastructure supporting the greater good (as difficult as that can be) against those who want to tear it down by any means necessary.
It doesn’t end.
Oh sorry I didn’t realize you were upper class white liberal who’s plan is do nothing at all because it’s easier.
You are somehow advocating for trying and getting a victory and also not doing anything but accepting things as they are.
So impressed by your own sense of order and doing things “right” that you would be on the side telling protestors asking for equal rights to just wait it out a little longer. You are part of the problem. Not a solution.
Your other option is a equally old man, hopped up on Sudafed, who lost his hospital privileges just 4 years ago because his mortality rate was insanely high, and no one would give him malpractice insurance, he had his medical license pulled in at least two states, and it’s suspected he sold illegally harvested organs to a group of rich people who wanted to eat them. He’s been legally found responsible for rape he’s committed in civil court, and he was found guilty in criminal court of dozens of felonies related to him stealing hospital records when he lost his license and privileges and may or may not have sold them to the last people you’d ever want to have access to them. He’s wearing a lobster bib and licks his lips as he says ''only I have the skill to save you, I don’t even want to, but I will… ‘’ He also forwards that everything is falling to ruin, and nothing is good now, and people are dying from surgeries left and right, and the people who died on his surgeries were fake deaths orcastrated by invisible foes only he can see or stop, so it was never his fault all those people died on his watch.
How about a criminal grifter doctor that says he doesn’t care about you, he just wants your money?
He tries to sell you beans while you’re on the operating table.
These non-voter apologists are just Trumpers in donkey clothing.
Notice they always have to neg him in a vacuum, because once he is juxtaposed to Trump, he looks like the best parts of Thomas Jefferson and John Adams put together.
They will say or do anything to suppress the vote.
Great, Biden’s not perfect, he is also a million fucking percent better than the alternative.
Oh look, more blue MAGA disinformation claiming anybody who isnt 150% onboard with biden is actually a trump supporter or Russian plant telling people not to vote (even when they say they’re voting, because rejecting the reality in front of you is important for fascism )
How many actual people are you seeing saying they won’t vote? Cause 1/100 isn’t really that high when everyone keeps saying they are voting blue but you ignore that bit to simply say the people disagreeing with you are the true problem and not all the people not on here voting for Trump.
You have the face of an ally near you that you can treat like that of the enemy since you can’t touch them.
Are you implying that the Washington bureau chief of the intercept is a Trump toady?
May as well be just any non-american who can’t beliefe this joke of an election is actually happening.
Gotta love all these anti-Biden straw man posts where we overlook the reality of a thing and substitute in some random bullshit that makes our point for us.
It’s so fun to suspend reality in order to manufacture outrage for others.
I didn’t even have to look to know who posted this, too. It’s like a fulltime job.
Yep. Predictable as a cicada that magically appears every four years to tell everyone why they shouldn’t vote for a democrat and then vanishes into obscurity.
You realize it takes literally 30 seconds to screenshot a tweet and post it here, right?
So, you’re only being paid part-time?
libs in this thread: “It’s completely fine that best reason to vote for our candidate is that they aren’t the other guy, this strategy definitely worked in 2016”. At this point I’m at least glad the liberal genocide apologists won’t be celebrating in november, gotta find a bright side somewhere.
Ah yes, that old chestnut. ‘Yeah sure this other guy would probably genocide harder but he didn’t (because he wasn’t president) so we should suppress the vote for the old genocide dude to help the other old genocide dude who also hates that autonomy (bodily, electoral, legal) exists at all’. Very sensible, enlightened centrist, let’s gooooo.
“We should teach the democrats that they can full throatedly support a genocide while abandoning the left of the party and still win reelection” Great long term strategy there chief.
And I would think biden being a horrible candidate is doing a hell of a lot more to suppress the vote than posts on lemmy.
biden being a horrible candidate is doing a hell of a lot more to suppress the vote
It is, yeah.
Great long term strategy there chief.
With Trump’s new King powers, I don’t think we get another chance.
Um.
Update your passports, people. Just in case.
I wonder if OP will continue posting after the election or if he’ll stop when the funding dries up
He will, but he’ll just post about whatever he’s paid to hate on next. Not to mention the alts he uses to downvote bomb users who disagree lol.
I agree with some of his opinions but boy does he post a lot of anti-biden stuff
I’ll still be here. I usually just do this during my daily peloton ride or at work when I’m bored. It’s easy.
