• kurcatovium@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    I’m not American and have only brief idea of how US elections work, but… damn this gets more and more ridiculous every day. I’m not saying Trump is better or anything, that dude is batshit crazy egomaniac, but… But… you’re saying there are no other options like if there was only one available candidate from the whole blue party? Or is it impossible (or too late) to switch candidate now? I’m confused.

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      Biden can resign and hand it over to anyone else. He’s decided he wants to stay in the race even though he clearly has some neurological issues.

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        Is it him who has to hand it over? Or is it possible for blue party to say “Hey, Joe, enough is enough” and substitute him for “health reasons”?

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          Both can happen. The party loyalists didn’t want to go against him for their own political careers. The GOP and Dems will push you out if you go against them.

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    What that should tell you is that Biden and anyone else that approved him saying that doesn’t believe the Democrat “vote for us or you’ll never vote again”/“end of democracy” style marketing.

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      How did you take Biden saying he’d only step aside if the Lord Almighty came down, and that when confronted with being behind in multiple polls by 7 points that he’s fine if he loses as long as he tried his best?

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        It’s a dumb take because it doesn’t make any sense. I mean you’re talking about a position where the person can (and has multiple times) literally die on the job and someone will just step in and pick up where they left off. This example makes it seem like if the president dies or even just loses the presidential race then so does every person in the country or something lol.

        I get the spirit of what they’re trying to say and even lrgely agree with it but it’s just a super bad analogy.

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    Sure… but if we’re talking about the presidency, it’s more like we’re choosing a Dean of Medicine, rather than the surgeon who’s going to be doing the operation.

    Don’t get me wrong, I would prefer not to have to deal with an 81 year old Dean who had some good days and some really bad ones. But, ultimately, the Dean of Medicine’s most important job is hiring good doctors and then delegating to them. It’s a rare occasion when you know ahead of time who the Dean’s team will be… but in this case we’ve seen both options as Dean, and we know that only one of the two is planning to hire Dr. Nick Riviera and Zoidberg.

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    Gotta love all these anti-Biden straw man posts where we overlook the reality of a thing and substitute in some random bullshit that makes our point for us.

    It’s so fun to suspend reality in order to manufacture outrage for others.

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      i wonder if you’ll ever see the similarities between trump’s camp and biden’s. yaknow how he has folks who love him no matter what he does and says, right?

      its ok to not like biden or be unhappy if he says shit you dont like. its also a good thing for democracy. If you were only exposed to the pro biden propaganda every day you wouldn’t even know he did or said these things. If everyone thought exactly as you do there would be no nuance.

      Ozma’s hard-on for biden memes doesn’t mean theyre a psyop, thats the dumbest fucking idea ive ever heard someone say with a serious face on lemmy. like embarrassingly stupid.

      And embarrasingly useless. I’ve seein ozma around and no matter how many times you say he’s a propagandist he will not stop. You and your ilk will never stop whinging about people who say things that attack your fragile world-view.

      Not that you and your friviolous friends i see crowding ozmas posts will ever engage in self-reflection.

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        This comment makes it seem like you have zero exposure to politics outside of Lemmy/Reddit echo chambers. It also makes you look like a fucking idiot.

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          I’ve noticed the hottest takes usually come after a thread has cooled. Would you care to tell me how i seem ignorant? I would like to come across as learned in your eyes. Please advise if you have content behind your words, with your point. Or are you afraid of exposing your own lacka acumen?

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        The idea that trumps cult is anything comparable to Biden supporters is absolutely the most insane shit take.

        You can’t be serious.

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          Man you are such a psyop.
          Running around telling everyone that the only option is to run the poorly polling candidate.

          That his loss is “possible but oh well, only one option”.
          Man Russia is taking a weird strategy to get their pick in these days.

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            Bruh, you’re talking about supporting project 2025 and literal fascism.

            Shut the fuck up.

            Jesus fucking Christ it’s not complicated.

            “Wah wah Biden is tired, let’s elect Hitler”. Fucking dumbasses.

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              No I’m not I’m just so tired of it being only one way that we pretend the complaints and warnings are the problem.

              I didn’t say that at all and you keep lashing out at the people that also don’t want to live in fascism.

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                No, you are just running an argument that was created by the right’s agenda.

                So are you actually an agent of the right, trying to push that line, or just a moron who fell for that stupid argument?

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                  Oh no. The right has spies everywhere… They’re even inside your own party!!!

                  You idiots are so paranoid about your bogeyman you feel you can just ignore every criticism because it’s probably some evil person trying to stop you from your perfect idea of reality. It’s not perfect. Grow up.

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                What you don’t seem to realize is how politics works. Everyone running around regurgitating what they saw some headline say and screaming in panic that they’re going to lose will make them lose.

                You want to know why Trump supporters rally around him no matter what? It’s not because they’re idiots (though most are), it’s because they actually understand the importance of projecting strength as a collective and using that to shape a narrative into reality.

                Yes Biden fucked up at the debate, but you know whats actually causing him to lose support? Everyone talking and publishing articles about him sounding hoarse and that meaning he has to quit, non stop. They’re not doing it because they have anyone else they think can actually beat Trump, they’re doing it because it made them scared and now they’re panicking and turning it into a self fulfilling prophecy (and in many cases, because they have an article quota to fill and they can capitalize on audiences feeling nervous after the debate by feeding that fear to get clicks in the most bombastic way).

                Biden seemed old. Trump seems old literally every week. No one is watching that debate and changing their mind to vote for the mean forgetful lying pervert geriatric who shits himself over the geriatric.

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                  What you don’t seem to realize is how politics works.

                  Christ, this shit again. Every last time a centrist gets called out on their bullshit, they pull out this gaslighty chestnut.

                  Everyone running around regurgitating what they saw some headline say and screaming in panic that they’re going to lose will make them lose.

                  Sure. It’s not like you were gonna blame anyone but the left when a neoliberal earns a loss. We warn you and you do something pigheaded and stupid anyway, and then you blame us.

                  Yes Biden fucked up at the debate, but you know whats actually causing him to lose support?

                  Him fucking up at the debate, in addition to his unconditional support for Netanyahu’s genocide.

                  Everyone talking and publishing articles about him sounding hoarse and that meaning he has to quit, non stop.

                  “We finally beat Medicare” isn’t hoarse. Forgetting which question he’s answering isn’t hoarse. Getting in a pissy little slapfight about fucking GOLF isn’t hoarse.

                  You just want everyone to your left to shut up and be happy. And maybe vote, as a tertiary priority.

                  Biden seemed old. Trump seems old literally every week.

                  Biden IS old. Not hoarse, not suffering from a cold, not hit with an energy weapon, not overprepared, not jet lagged, not any of the other ridiculous excuses that the “you don’t know how anything works now shut up” crowd insults everyone within earshot by expecting them to buy. The sun wasn’t in his eyes. The dog didn’t eat his homework.

                  Trump seems old literally every week.

                  He sure fucking does. And we need someone who can beat him. Biden is no longer that candidate. His debate performance wasn’t a fluke and there’s no way in hell you don’t know it.

  • S_204@lemm.ee
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    America deserves what it elects.

    May the odds ever be in your favor.

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    I wonder if OP will continue posting after the election or if he’ll stop when the funding dries up

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      He will, but he’ll just post about whatever he’s paid to hate on next. Not to mention the alts he uses to downvote bomb users who disagree lol.

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      I’ll still be here. I usually just do this during my daily peloton ride or at work when I’m bored. It’s easy.

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    How about if you asked him if he felt up to it and he said 'Don’t worry, I’m going to do the goodest job I can!"

    Like Ralph Wiggum pretending to be Dr. Nick, jesus christ our country is fucked.

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    If my choice was between that and the doctor who said “I’ve got this handgun, it’s the best handgun, nobody kills more patients than me”…

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      That’s not the point at hand though. You are just making yourself feel better about the shitty candidate that can probably lose anyways because you will have felt safe in your heart that yours was less terrible.

      Pathetic, apathetic, and lazy.

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      Dr. Trump: “To be completely honest with you, I’m really lucky to have this operation. The board was about to submit judgement with serious repercussions to my personal life, but I managed to get in here just in time to dodge all responsibility. Anyways, I don’t actually believe in medicine so I’m gonna let my Office of Management and Budget handle the situation from here.”

      Russ Vought: “First of all, every nurse is fired. The Anesthesiologist, too.”

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    So let’s go with the convicted felon doctor who only saves the patients who donate millions of dollars to him. The hospital fired him but he refused to leave his office.

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      But there is only two people in the country rich enough to pretend to be doctors and the whole country is like: this is normal, and you like the racist one or whatever the other one has to offer.

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      You can’t do that because in this attempt to manufacture outrage, the convicted felon doctor doesn’t exist.

      You see- they can’t help Trump get elected if they include him in their disaster scenarios.

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      Right? If the other doctor brought in a bunch of fishermen and a stockbroker, and a radio host, and a mime to help with the surgery and said “I saw this on TV once and I am an expert” then started up a chainsaw…I’d worry a little and take the other guy.

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        I feel it’s more like the other guy is actually a barber who happens to have a meat pastry shop on the floor below his butcher barbershop

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      Yeah he really would, could you imagine. “Ok I’m just going to inject the painkiller… Oh I mean bleach, ah no matter it’ll still clean out any COVID you have”

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      What a shame that no one can convince either of these doctors to step down for a younger, more capable doctor. Guess we’ll just die.

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        And people don’t want him either.

        The whataboutism doesn’t make Biden any better it just makes you look petty and unable to move on and try to do something about the issues at hand.

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    First of all, what in the blazes is your doctor doing in surgery?

    But let’s assume he’s also a surgeon… That’s honestly probably the healthiest point of view for a surgeon. Surgeons tend to lose people and it can be devastating if they take it personally. An 81 year old surgeon might have come to terms with it, so as long as he still does his absolute best, why does his relationship to the worst part of his job matter?