I’m not saying the worst, otherwise I would need to include the star wars sequels or transformers movies… Just some really dumb movie that somehow got praised.
For me has to be Ready Player One. That movie message is so “uhuh” obvious that is stupid, the whole nerd that saves the world in a thing that otherwise would be useless to know in real life… The so over the top evil gaming corporation. The whole 80s and 90s movies and games references get old after half an hour… And it’s so pandering towards the geeks and nerds, they really want the viewer feeling really cool for knowing that is the Shining hallway, or that is a Monty python reference… Or look a GUNDAM! YOU’RE SO COOL FOR COLLECTING THOSE GUN PLA! Look we have also overwatch and halo in the background! You’re so cool modern gamer!
Also the obviously attractive “nerd” hacker girl that thinks she’s ugly and deformed for having a small hard to see red tint in one side of her pretty face… Cmon man. In no universe anyone would think that actress is ugly.
And the message at the end is so hilarious: Look man, you’re cool for getting these references and being a real gamer is cool, but go outside more!
Is like the creators have no self awareness.
american beauty. it was everywhere, and everyone seemed to LOVE it. feels like history kinda agrees though since all I hear these days is people making fun of it. guess I’m just ahead of the times.
Ready player one and also Scott pilgrim or whatever its called. That whole “needs are cool, buy funko pops” craze is super cringe.
Out of curiosity, how old are you? I hold up Scott Pilgrim as the Fast Times at Ridgemont High of my generation (older millennials). I could see it not hitting the same for older and newer gens.
Of course it’s a perfectly valid opinion even if we are in the same gen. I’m sure Fast Times had its detractors, too
I’m in that same generation but I like to think I have some taste and am quite able to critique bad writing and stupid stories
Out of curiosity, how many funko pops do you own?
The first Harry Potter was okay, but it just got worse. I’d say the worst was Goblet of Fire. That one should top my list of worst overrated movies.
I’ll go ahead and say it, the first one is a great movie even. It has a particular atmosphere of joy and hopefulness.
Then that entire vibe goes away and it just goes generic dark teenage fantasy with mediocre writing
They were all pretty close to the books except that they cut out a lot of the pointless bickering that kept happening all the time, so I’d blame JK Rowling for those.
Funny cause apparently she had almost entire creative control
Haha yeah goblet of fire was such an odd movie. I don’t even remember the books or if it was the same but that movie made no sense.
My favourite part is how they let these kids fight dangerous dragons, one only didn’t drown because harry broke the rules. They kept saying how dangerous it was, but then at the end everyone was shocked that cedric died. A dead child in the child murder games? That is crazy
Remember, the movie is based on a book written by a women who didn’t had high education and is a book for children… Most things about the universe make no sense.
Black Panther.
It had so much hype in the media, i was so excited to watch it. It turned out to be rather boring and forgettable.
A nation of people so advanced that they decide their dictatorial ruler through a trial by combat.
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V for Vendetta. For a movie with both Padme and Palpatine as actors, the movie is just an edgy construct. I’m sure V isn’t totally without reason, but bro, you sabotaged a train just because you wanted real butter on toast.
You got my vote fo unpopular opinion. I love that movie :)
The Matrix. So, so dumb. Dumb, lots of dumb.
Absolutely the most overhyped film I’ve ever paid money to see.
I don’t think it’s dumb but very overrated and not anywhere near as deep as people make it out to be. It’s little surprise that “the red pill” had been embraced by so many arrogant people that are pretty ignorant.
Using people as batteries never made sense since you’d have to continually use energy to feed them and they really dont make that much heat energy.
If I remember correctly in the first drafts they used the brain for computational power but went for the battery idea because it was, for a then tech illiterate audience, easier to understand.
Ok no. The matrix, the whole trilogy, it’s a damn masterpiece. Misunderstood to the max. I won’t bother with a essay because I know haters never move from their place.
Hey, you asked for these exact kinds of takes.
the whole trilogy, it’s a damn masterpiece
An unpopular opinion from OP themselves.
I like the matrix series, but the two sequels are far from being masterpieces. The 2nd was a good action set piece, but the 3rd one got a bit up its own ass at times trying to fit all the exposition in with the action scenes.
As usual people don’t understand the hidden message, every dialogue the AI characters say is ON POINT. Even Neo, becoming less human and more omnipresent and digital z everywhere, meanwhile Smith becomes more human. Is perfect, the antithesis, the one and the zero, binary code. Is perfect. Majority of people just don’t get it.
And the very hidden references in music and Hinduism… I stand in my position, the movie is too clever for the average dumb viewer.
Hey, I’m not a hater, at least not in the trolling sense. I just genuinely think it’s a poor movie and massively massively overrated. Never saw the sequels as I had zero interest.
I’d be curious to see what you think of the sequels because I only loved the first movie and hated everything that came after it. But I totally understand that you have no interest in watching them.
In a thread full of hot takes, you’ve picked the hottest. I’d expect Lemmy users and people who like The Matrix have a Venn diagram that’s just a circle.
Ha, yeah, I thought it might not go down well, but I’m not trolling. I genuinely hated that movie.
Not gonna lie, never seen the full movie(s) and probably never will at this point since it doesn’t interest me.
It was dumb, but at least it was semi-fun dumb. Thank goodness they never made any more Matrix movies after the first one.
shut up shut up shut up shut up no they didn’t shut up shut up
Well, everyone is wrong sometimes, you just chose today. That film is a masterpiece. And yes they ripped off a bunch of other shit, but they did so with proper style.
And if you watch the matrix today for the first time, everything is cliche and done to death.
The reason for this is that every single action movie after the matrix has copied it. When it released, it blew people away. No one had seen anything like it. I remember going to see it after an event because of how much people wouldn’t stop talking about it. Even overhyped, I was blown away.
The Matrix defined action movies for a decade+
When it released, it blew people away
I actually saw it on release in the cinema. Hated it. Ah well :-)
I saw it in theaters too. Two months later, I saw The 13th Floor. Dark City had come out the year before.
I think that all of this was just the zeitgeist of the time.
I mean, the post is literally asking for unpopular opinions, so… respect the honesty at least
Thank you :-)
Masterpiece, schmasterpiece. It’s a series of dumb set pieces tied together with a pseudo-philosophical plot and some impressive effects.
Just IMO, of course.
Don’t Look Up. It felt like a movie made by a Redditor who thinks he’s really smart.
I’m probably going to get some hate for this one, but Spider-Man: Across The Spiderverse. The story wasn’t as tight as the first movie, they introduced too many new characters to keep up with, and it ended with a setup for the next movie.
Why do both of the Spider-Man animated movies look like they’re something like 15 frames per second? It actually made me sort of nauseous to watch them when things were moving around really fast.
crash won an oscar for best picture and it was complete and utter garbage
I can’t see the name Crash and not think of the 1996 movie with James Spader. Which is weird as fuck.
Cronenberg be cronenbergin
I never understood the hatred for crash. It’s a great story great acting and great ending. I really don’t see what the hate is about.
For me it was Blade Runner. Everyone always talks about how great the movie is, and man, it was a struggle to get through. The setting was cool and that’s about it.
I get it. I love the slow pace, the beautiful cinematography, the careful dialog. But it’s not for everyone.
Did you watch the one with Decker’s voiceover, or without?
Apparently the common experience is watching it without voiceover first makes it harder to watch. But watching it with voiceover first makes rewatching it without, more interesting. Or something like that.
There Will Be Blood. Wooden acting, almost nothing happens, the soundtrack is earsplitting noise, but everyone loves it because of the “milkshake” meme at the end.
Fuck that movie. Walked out on it halfway through, read about what “happened” afterwards later (spoiler: fucking nothing) and regret nothing.
Donnie Darko, I found it incredibly predictable.
Avatar
The key is to watch it in 3D… on acid. The dialogue and characters are hilarious and the world is beautiful.
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Dances With Aliens was a masterpiece, dammit!!!
Seriously, it was fine I guess. Agreed that it looked fucking amazing in theaters.
Name a main character. Not the actor, the character.
If you can, you’ll be the first person who has been able to that I have asked. (Though I have never asked online.)
I knew them (Sam & Zoe’s characters), but I watched the sequel only last year. I probably couldn’t have told you had you asked me in 2022.
I don’t remember any other character names from either movie.
John Smith?
Jake from State Farm?
You’ve asked the wrong guy. All I know is it’s Kevin Costner.
So close, if only you had said Mary McDonnell.
Same. I liked the movies for what they are: expensive, cinematic special-effects thrill rides with pretty much the loosest stories.
The second one looked absolutely gorgeous in theaters.
For me, it was A Quiet Place. I found it incredibly dumb and impossible to believe that nobody on the whole of the planet ever considered that these aliens with ultra incredible hearing weren’t somehow vulnerable to noise? Just dumb as fuck, especially when you consider that sonic weapons already exist and are used, and sound is routinely used in torture/incarceration scenarios.
I actually don’t mind the premises behind the Death Angels, but the reasoning is pretty weak behind them. They could be defeated easily and the cast would not survive outside of the film’s sound design. The rest is just shit occurring for the point of the movie to exist, and its told pretty damn well.
And then they made a sequel. And now a prequel. This didn’t need to be a franchise.
Iirc, cochlear implants don’t actually produce sounds, but an electro static (?) feedback. So the aliens aren’t actually vulnerable to sounds but to that.
The movie probably could have explained that better
I like it but yeah, somehow high pitched noise lose to gunshot.
Also the solution is guns.
Eh, I think of it more in the vein of It Follows. It’s not supposed to make sense, it’s supposed to be a minigame for the audience to play along with the characters. It lays out a simple set of mechanics and then uses that to build tense dilemmas, giving the audience a chance to think about what they would do in that situation, and what they definitely want to prevent from happening.
I didn’t see the second one, though. Heard it wasn’t great (no pun intended).
The Starwars Prequels.
I’ve recently come to terms with the fact that I guess I’ve just grown out of Star Wars. When you strip away all of the nostalgia, I don’t think any of the originals (or prequels) hold up at all. And the newer ones have just been trash.
I’ve recently come to terms with the fact that I guess I’ve just grown out of Star Wars. When you strip away all of the nostalgia
Very true. Rewatching stuff later with a new perspective certainly changes things.
I don’t think any of the originals (or prequels) hold up at all.
That is where I disagree. THe orginals do hold up, because Starwars was about classic adventure story. The character of Luke Skywalker. The original trilogoy (and there are quality differences between the eopisodes) overall get this right. It’s the sort of timless story, just with a spin on it beeing a sci-fi world.
The prequels and sequels completley missed that aspect of basic stoytelling. The OT stands out as a piece of revolutionary cinema, where the prequels are an elaborate ad to sell more Starwars toys.
where the prequels are an elaborate ad to sell more Starwars toys
This is clearly not true, Lucas cared a lot about his story and universe. I say this hoping it helps effectively communicate points later: statements like that detract from your premise because they’re obviously false to an audience that knows and cares. It would be better (from a rhetorical standing) to double down on the poor storytelling allegations by acknowledging it as true instead, then going on to say that they were cinematic incoherence regardless.
I haven’t seen a single one of the prequels in over a decade except RotS (which I thought was an interesting story but a poorly made film), but my dislike of the prequels is because they’re not good movies. My dislike of the sequels is that they were not good and were made to maximize profits.
THe orginals do hold up, because Starwars was about classic adventure story. The character of Luke Skywalker… It’s the sort of timless story, just with a spin on it beeing a sci-fi world… The prequels and sequels completley missed that aspect of basic stoytelling.
This is where I completely disagree. Movies should not be aiming to do only the classic adventure story over and over again, and the prequels weren’t bad because of the story. They actually had a pretty classic story too: an evil being corrupts a well-meaning but slow-to-react institution filled with self serving or incompetent representatives by manufacturing conflict to seize power. All the while the forces of good are distracted and unfocused by the chaos— and too sure that their institutions will not bend to tyranny— until it is too late. With a solid director, the prequels could have been excellent, and also perhaps a prophetic warning about complacent democracies.
This is clearly not true, Lucas cared a lot about his story and universe.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAH. Oh wait, your’re serious. Let me laugh even harder.
Movies should not be aiming to do only the classic adventure story over and over again, and the prequels weren’t bad because of the story.
Right. Movies shouldn’t. But Starwars should. But that’s not even the main issue. The prequels are just terribly written, no matter what genre they were supossed to be. Bad story, terrible characters with no development, inchorent and self condtradictory and padded with stupidly long and boring action scences. They are just bad movies. A director couldn’t have fixed that, they would need a complete rewrite.
Does that mean that from your point of view all the movies are evil?
Not sure what you mean by that.
I can offer you bad, terrible, aweful, dreadful, horrendous, vile, digusting … but I wouldn’t say evil.
I was joking using the meme by Anakin
They were so bad, but not nearly as bad as the sequels.
I think I would agree, though I only watched the sequels once and was so bored I didn’t really pay attention. But when the sequels released Starwars was already ruined and I very much expected them to be shit. So I guess they don’t feel as bad because they were close to what I expected.
Also I’ve seen very little praise for them compared to the prequels.
Hard disagree, the sequels were much better than the prequels IMO. Well, 2 of them were.
I was old enough to see the original trilogy re-released with all the bad dumb filler George Lucas thought was necessary to complete his vision.
All the poopy squelchy gross-out CGI was obviously a crass moneygrab, but it seemed like such a reflection of the man himself that I boycotted the prequels when they came out. Then I found Red Letter Media. Fuck the prequels. Fuck that creepy bastard. Han shot only.
Honestly, now that I’ve watched them more recently I enjoyed them a ton. At least Lucas had an idea of where he wanted to go with it, unlike the shit Disney trilogy.
Aeons ago, I came across a picture of a young woman in a “steampunk Elsa” cosplay. It was “steam punk” because she had brown leather straps with brass buckles everywhere and she was wearing a pair of goggles like a hat. It was “Elsa” because the cloth parts of her bustier was cyan.
Feels reductive, right? That a genre of fiction with themes and ideas to explore, and a main character from a major motion picture, both get boiled down to some leather straps and colored cloth.
That’s what Disney did to Star Wars. It’s not a story anymore, it’s a cosplay aesthetic.
The prequels had the best light saber fights in the franchise though.
I guess they look prettier. But they are boring AF. There is no tension or stakes between the characters because they’re all boring or unlikable and it’s so highly choreographed it looks like dance number from a musical.
Yeah, OT lightsaber fights lacked action. But at least they had weight and meaning behind them. That makes them much, much better in my opinion.
They’re lightsabers wtf would they need weight lmao
Look, George Lucas wanted Wu xia style movies with space samurais and the choreography did that PERFECTLY. Is supposed to look like a dance, have you seen HERO or crouching tiger hidden dragon?
The Disney sequels tried to do a more “realistic” style, I bet inspired by John Wick or the bourne movies but with “swords” but failed, the mistakes can be seen during the choreography. I can’t remember a single mistake being noticeable during the prequel fights.
Ok, so you clearly only care about the action scenes and don’t care about the story at all. Guess that’s a view point that exists.
Anakin vs Obi wan was a visual spectacle and still one of most emotional fights in the series… And it’s in the prequel. I rest in my case.
I guess having 15 mins dance number against overloaded CGI background is technically a “visual spectacle”, I so give you that.
one of most emotional fights
I don’t even know how to respond to that. I guess feeling relief that the movie is finally over is an emotion.
OT lightsaber fights looked like people who practiced the idea of “less is more” combat and knew pointless flailing and twirling around was useless against a similarly skilled opponent. This MADE SENSE. Everyone in the prequels flipping around and going nuts with the lightsabers and all that – it was laughable. Even Luke in the OT who wasn’t as skilled as some of the so-called “masters” from the prequels used at least some restraint and thought when fighting.
The prequels are garbage and I’m sick of people who think they’re good just because we made memes out of them.
Spot on. And don’t even get me started on Yoda. Not even did they make him stupid as fuck … no, he also had to get a little lightsaber and flip around like a character on super smash brothers. So ridiculous and basically a total character assasination.
Oh, yes the special edition re-release … where all the guns have been replaced by walkie-talkies and the word Wookie has been change to “hair challenged animal”.
The Plinkett reviews are probably the best thing that came from the prequels! I must have watched them more often then the actual movies by now.
I kind of like them, actually. I know this is a fairly unpopular opinion, so allow me to elaborate:
I grew up with ep IV through VI, as my brother had them on VHS. I was instantly a fan, and I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve seen them.
Once I was old enough to be aware of the concept of a story not existing in a vacuum, I started wondering about how ep III ended, and other things, long before I knew they would turn the prequels into movies as well. I was curious about the world building and the star wars universe in general.And that’s what the prequels did for me: They finally answered so many of the questions I had after watching the originals. So it was pretty cool for me to finally see that aspect on the big screen as well.
However, they should’ve skipped JarJar Binks. And a lot of the world building seemed tacked on as a result of George Lucas realizing he could include anything he wanted thanks to CGI.
And speaking of CGI: Han shot first. I liked the remasters, but they truly fucked ip Han Solo, trying to make him a loveable loner instead of some outlaw who was after a quick buck
And that’s what the prequels did for me: They finally answered so many of the questions I had after watching the originals. So it was pretty cool for me to finally see that aspect on the big screen as well.
But it was terrible worldbuilding that often contradicts the original movies or just doesn’t make any sense.
I liked the prequels when they first came out. But I was around 11. And I thought they were great because of the much better lightsaber and spaceship action. I got so many Starwars LEGO sets.
When I rewatched them in my early twenties I was baffled about how bad they were, now having learned to care about storytelling and characters from other shows and movies, the fight- and action scenes weren’t really that important and when you don’t focus on them, the movies are just so boring and awkward. That wasn’t the case when rewatching the OT.
I want two things from star wars, lightsaber fights and mandalorians. The pre-quals are the best source of both.
I liked grievous
