Pretty sad really, just like in general.
If only everyone’s friends were like this.
idk what kinds of ‘friends’ you have, but none of mine are like this.
This is more of …what, a mini business incubator but for life goals?
There are people who literally have like become capitalism. They don’t see human interaction as a thing beyond some sort of gain. And this is basically someone realizing that maybe just having supportive friends is a good thing, but can’t frame that outside of the realm of pure capitalism and how every interaction must be a transaction.
Oh shit, that’s right – you just reminded me of a guy like this. Every “friendship” seemed to be transactional, and he didn’t seem to understand friends who just wanted someone else to succeed with nothing in return.
Yeah unfortunately it’s more and more common with people who only interact with social media and are force fed like “alpha male” or “hustle and grind” style bullshit by the algorithm and it’s the only thing they believe.
I don’t think this is bad advice. However I don’t think that it should be limited to just men.
Also I think the group should align politically and be able to support each other in solidarity. They could also use meeting time to plan resistance to fascist regimes.
However there are quite a few people (I am mostly thinking of men I know) that tend to isolate themselves from friends when they need help the most or once they get into a romantic relationship. This is probably not just a men’s issue however.
Cut it off after the first 2 points and it sounds ideal.
A bunch of 4-5 guy friends who are open to talk about anything with the motivation being to get a better understanding…where do I sign up?
Create the group chat and send an inv
Here’s a telegram group I’ve just made:
https://t.me/+3a653HYGjSc5YWU8
Could go for Discord if there’s more interest in that.
I don’t have Telegram and I’m in the process of abandoning Discord 🤪
Telegram requires a phone number…? Bah
Create the group chat and send an inv
Signal? Matrix?
I’ve been wanting to try Revolt. Thoughts?
I don’t care. Apps are easily installed. If it’s not a platform that’s got a strong userbase then people don’t take it up and it’ll end up being just a chat between the 2 of us.
It’s not questioning of isolating, it’s because people only have a limited amount of time and energy and we’re all forced to prioritize. Once you factor in romantic relationships, family and work/business many of us don’t have much time left for regular meetings with friends.
Not to diminish your position however, I think the problem you are describing is caused by having a lack of a social safety net, not a reason to cut free from one.
Humans are a social animals, and we are more likely to thrive as a community than as rugged individuals.
Also I think the group should align politically
I think it’s best if people get along well with each other despite possible conflicting political views.
If I have to explain to anyone that genocide is wrong and that human rights are good. Or if I find someone votes to promote genocide or reduce human rights. Then they are not my friend.
I might try to talk in good faith to them, I might attempt to negotiate with them, i might even exchange pleasantries with them. But they will never have my full confidence.
I do not have to “get along” with a fascist.
“Conflicting political views” doesn’t necessarily mean “fascist”. I don’t understand why this topic always causes such misunderstandings. This is something I also noticed when I made a thread on the Fediverse community asking about possible advantages or disadvantages about the mostly limited range of views on Lemmy. Some users replied in a similar fashion. Maybe it’s just a deliberate exaggeration, i don’t know.
If you haven’t noticed the USA is in the middle of a fascist auto-coup.
So it’s not exaggeration. I’ve had to cut ties with members of my family. Because they believe some people are sub humans that don’t deserve rights or that regions of the globe should be purged.
Politics usually aren’t as polarised as in the USA
I don’t have any first hand experience outside of the USA. But from global news it sounds like this is a global trend in places like germany, France, Italy, most of south america, Africa, and Asia too.
Maybe I should say that you should align with friends based on your moral principles rather than politics.
That’s better yes. Some of my closest friends are politically very different from me, but in the end we mostly do align morally.
It’s because that language is specifically what fascists are hiding behind, right this minute. It goes right along as the evolution of the ‘you’re being intolerant of my intolerance!’
Full agreement but I will say as a syndicalist it’s been good for me to be friends with progressive liberals and some more authoritarian and central planning communists. We all want the same thing: a better society that’s less oppressive and fairer. We each can help each other see flaws in our ideas and figure out how to advance things.
Fascism should be always off the table. But single party approaches are extremely self destructive
Do, uh… Do i know you?
No, he’s isolated right now.
Let’s synergize and offer value-added guidence with some D&D.
it’s called a wargaming teambuilding exercise
Let’s share each other’s emotions and experiences of the week while drinking beers.
What a novel idea, let’s call it “Happy Hour”
This sounds like the guy who suggested “virgin edibles” as an idea worth trying out.
Or, to rephrase it, “food.”
Fuck, imagine if someone ONLY ate edibles for all their nutrition needs
I propose adding “dressing up in leather” and “worshipping the devil” to this list; Just to make it spicy.
Smoke meth and hail Satan!
Finally. Somebody talking sense in this thread.
Hey, if that’s what it takes for Nathanael to have some human interaction, I’m cool with it. I don’t necessarily want to be involved, but I’m not against it.
Ngl I read this as a positive thing at first
Like friendships should be about creating a safe space where people can talk about sensitive subjects without being judged. A lot of toxic masculinity influencers keep saying that men shouldn’t have feelings, men should just bottle it up, etc. and that’s just not a good and healthy mindset.
Then I realized this was on linkedin lol
So a support group?
I’ll start our group, you pick up the other 2 men/women/etc.
My goals:
- Doomscroll no less than 5 hours a day.
- Post one shitpost and one 196 post every day.
- Install Arch once a month.
- Compliment a furry or trans every day.
I got you fam
It’s really sad because that’s exactly what this is. He really doesn’t know this is what friend groups are.
This is satire.
Fair enough, I don’t have time or interest to vet every post like this. OP should have made that clear or posted to a comm that would make it obvious it was satire I suppose.
A lot of the posts I see in this community are satire, actually.
They could make some shitty startup named BroBar that creates public places where the atmosphere is chill, beer is served, and where you could find people for your “core group”. Maybe even play some pool.
I was so close to going on a rant
But first of all, you have to think about the monitarization and scalability! Make it a subscription service! And you need an app to track your
pay slavescustomers! And you need merch! This “friendship”-business model must be profitable!/s
Would be a nice place for 30-50 hogs to hang out.
A very large urinal?
The sink you’re allowed to piss in.
I remember before the plague it became fashionable to talk about “having your personal advisory board”. It was just a friend group for socially stunted MBAs.
I see it as symptomatic of something worse: the tendency to monetize, advertise, and exploit everything that you are. For anyone willing to go hard enough on those ideals, it’s (theoretically) possible to achieve more income. The thing that’s keeping the rest of us from doing this are opposing ideals like privacy, quality of life, respecting boundaries, and healthy relationships.
Is this for his AA meetings? Because it sounds kinda fire for that.
Fellas, is it gay to have friends?
