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On each side people are voting who they believe is the “lesser evil”. A third party doesn’t really need much popularity to start a landfall
That’s a solid point. They are both shit. Proof: they alternate and things keep getting worse for US and outside of it (as result of US policies or direct wars)
My party is slightly less bad than yours is the worst argument you can put. Be honest, they both don’t care about us.
it is depressing how much people in the US care about their little stack of chips over anything else.
When you don’t have a solid social safety net, 30+ years of indoctrination of “individualism good, family and friend support bad”, a medical system that is built for profit and generations of both subtle and obvious propaganda that the more money you have the better of a person you are, I can understand why people protect their small stack of chips.
It’s too late. Can’t trust him again.
If only there were signs before hand. 🙄
He says it like it is, but I promise, you’re looking waaay too much into what he says !
They will have forgotten all of this by next week, when the US is invading Greenland
Yeah, like maybe telling everybody he was going to do this if he were elected.
There’s no way anyone could have predicted this
I had this exact conversation with my MIL just yesterday. She voted for him, and she hit me with “This is so unexpected”. I told her no, no it wasn’t, everyone who was paying attention saw this coming a mile away, nothing could be more predictable.
How did she respond?
She is an immigrant and not particularly well informed politically. I went on to explain the predictable cycle of Republican presidents leading to market crashes which the wealthy use to buy up assets for cheap, and indicated to Project 2025 which was published well in advance of the election. She seemed to respond as if I had given her valid information that she lacked before (which wasn’t really the case, we’d talked about this well before November). But she didn’t really have any pushback or response, she mostly seemed quiet and contemplative.
Well, I suppose that’s a good thing.
Nevermind the fact the he straight campaigned of levying tariffs on everyone, as well as crashing the economy to “correct” it. I’ve brought it up to a few trumpets over the weekend and they just keep saying how they thought he was joking to own the libs?!???
If I could strike any phrase from the human lexicon, it would be ”owning the libs” or any variation with similar meaning and/or intent.
Yeah we get it, you’re so petty that you don’t give a goddamned what happens to anyone (including yourselves), so long as you get to sit on your high horse laughing like Nelson from The Simpsons. Congrats. Now go away.
Well yeah all that terrible shit happened, but now it’s effecting ME!
The effect of the oligarch’s mishandling of our economy are affecting the performance of our retirement investments.
I personally have a hard time defining/explaining words, except through an example.
Appreciate it!
Affecting. (Sorry)
*iffecting
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feckin’
Dammit, it was right in front of me the whole time.
I’m sticking with complify as the opposite of simplify though
Why you always gotta go and make things so complified…
if ffecting, proceed to nearest trash can. if not ffecting, proceed to terminal.
(not sorry)
Just insane this is happening.
Um, this was a campaign promise. He promised to raise tariffs, and the natural reaction of the market to new tariffs is to drop. This isn’t surprising, this is expected, and Trump said as much.
If you didn’t want that, you shouldn’t have elected Trump. Simple as. I didn’t want that, so I didn’t vote for Trump. Simple as.
The knuckleheads all thought that the other countries would be paying the tariffs because they didn’t understand how tariffs work.
well, it’s been a quick and painful way to educate the American population on specific economic theories and topics
A few did. Many still don’t understand, and some are doing some pretty impressive mental gymnastics to make it sound like it’s Biden’s fault somehow.
You don’t even need to get into economic theory, just tell them it’s a hidden sales tax, and that’s all they’ll need to know. Tariffs are pretty simple:
- product gets taxed when it comes into our country
- companies increase the price of goods to pay the tax
- products are more expensive for customers, because of that tax
They won’t see the tax when they buy stuff, but it’s still there, and it’s largely the same as if the fed government levied a nationwide sales tax, but it only applies to imports. Most US-made stuff relies on imported materials, so it even impacts them.
The Harris campaign literally did this, I want to say in a sideswipe during the debate. And Trump said nuh-uh, it’s not a tax, and the campaign more or less shut up about it, wasn’t a core feature of their advertising, stump speech, or debate strategy going forward, they opted for “save our institutions” and “he’s going to raise the ever nebulous cost of living” (which got lost in the Biden is responsible for bird flu egg prices noise from the other side). Can you imagine betting it all on courting Republican voters, and being so easily talked off of the “he’s going to tax you more” hill? I know hindsight is 20/20, but that’s some frustrating shit to think about
“Tariffs are a Trump tax” was a core message of the Harris campaign… (Trump really was planning to tariff the entire world 10% since last August!) The last months of the campaign befoee election day are a blur to me, but did Harris really drop that line after the debate? I really doubt it.
Neither do Democrats or they would have used that information to win the election.
Even if you expected some tariffs the degree and arbitrariness have exceeded almost every expectation. Charitably you could have assumed he meant he would implement tariffs in a way that makes some kind of sense, you know, warning well in advance so businesses can actually plan for them.
It’s kind of amazing the market hasn’t dropped even more now that the administration has revealed that it has no guard rails guiding Trump’s dementia fueled decisions and that he doesn’t give a fuck about wall street at all.
Yeah, Trump is a real estate guy, and I expect he has a relatively small allocation to stocks in his portfolio. So he probably doesn’t care all that much about Wall Street.
That said, he did give several warnings. He campaigned on a platform of across the board tariffs (I think he even mentioned his 10% figure), he tried doing tariffs at the start and backed off, and now he’s committing to them. So that’s several months of warning, not necessarily for the actual numbers, but for the general direction.
It absolutely is alarming though. But that’s kind of Trump’s MO, he holds his cards close, and is usually bluffing, but sometimes he actually takes action.
Anyone charitably assuming anything of him is either a complete fool or complicit. This is exactly what they voted for, whether they admit it or not.
I find this baffeling. Multiple people, on different topics did disagree with his campaigns promises, and voted for him against their best interest. (Farmers for exemple) Their justification ? “He won’t do it”. Are you telling me you are voting for someone who promises to do things, in the hope that he does all the other things but the one that would negatively impact you ? REALLY ?!
Common clay of the new west and so on
But you see, America is the Greatest Country in the World™, and therefore anyone they elect as President can’t be that bad. It doesn’t matter if he repeatedly states how he absolutely will be that bad, he won’t actually do the things he says he’ll do because those things Can’t Happen Here.
Couple of days ago there was a news item here in the Netherlands about a Dutch tulip grower. And his dad was wearing a MAGA hat. And this old man was saying that Trump was doing the right thing even though his business is negatively affected by Trump’s tariffs. Seriously, conservatives all have brain worms or something. Or they hate everyone else so much that they would gladly suffer to see other people get hurt.
Our agrarian sector is indeed not known for its progressive outlook, so I’m not surprised.
Currently nitrogen deposition is a big issue as it fucks up local plantlife. Their lobby has been downplaying this problem since it became known in the fucking 80’s, hindering every political attempt to take action.
Now that the point has been reached where action needs to be taken they are all Pickachu-faced and shouting “how did this happen, it’s the fault of the leftwing treehuggers”. No, fuck the farming lobby in particular for kicking that can down the lane for 40 years.
Blissfully ignoring the consequences of adverse actions and acting as if nothing bad will come out of it is fully ingrained in their thought process.
I always assume politicians won’t keep the promises I like and will keep the promises I don’t. Generally speaking, I’ve been pretty right about that.
That said, Trump did these tariffs in his last term, so I don’t understand why anyone would think he wouldn’t do it again.
Literally yes. I recall there was a study (can’t find it now) which showed that people who vote for extreme candidates often do so under the assumption that they won’t actually follow through with their promises, and hence the vote is more about “sending a message.” In some sense, it is a sick version of normalcy bias.
Gavin Newsom? He does not need republican votes to win in a blue state.
Republicans: Useless, even when try try to do the right thing
Who could ever seen the conman crashing the economy for personal gain coming? If only their were big flashy neon signs alarming people.
But also, fuck these people. Didn’t matter that innocent citizens with no charges are getting back bagged and tossed in cells. Didn’t matter families were getting ripped apart and deported. Didn’t matter that the bigotry against trans people has ramped up to being codified in confessional fucking rules levels. No it took an economic nightmare scenario personally affecting the livelihoods of these people for them to wake up AT ALL. Like fine, welcome to the fucking real world. You’re still a piece of shit in my eyes now start making better fucking choices, moron.
100%. The world has just done nothing but coddle these morons and their feelings for so long it’s about time we start telling them that they’re not getting a gold star for doing the bare minimum after the damage has already been done.
Well most of that stuff was happening under genocide joe too. And kamalacaust promised to continue. Didn’t matter to the libs. They attack people for pointing this out.
“Wait, this affects me? That changes EVERYTHING!”
That’s what makes it even more awful. They’re so selfish.
Mama told you the stove was hot.
It’s worse… Mama told you the stove was hot… You grabbed it and lost one hand… Then you went and grabbed it again and with the other hand…
Not even toddlers are this stupid, Republicans legit have brain damage
The difference is that this affects his voters’ (the ones with any money) place in the hierarchy. If their retirement accounts zero out, they’re no different from the poor people they consider themselves above and made so many choices to separate themselves from. If they introspect a little bit, they might even say “then what have I been working so hard all this time for?”
The dems become the rational alternative. These Trump voters can hold their nose and vote for a little less brutality on the trans folks and a little more DEI lip service as long as they stabilize the market.
Meanwhile ofc the dems are likely to keep 80% of the immigrant deportation policies, tax cuts for the rich, etc.
Meanwhile ofc the dems are likely to keep 80% of the immigrant deportation policies, tax cuts for the rich, etc.
Listen, 80% of fascism is still better than 100% of fascism so we have to vote for Congressman Lil’ Hitler 2. You leftists can’t just get everything you want. Sometimes you have to triangulate between the guy with the Sea-Do business owner with six sexual harassment complaints, the seventh generation plantation heiress trying to dodge any kind of inheritance taxes, and the Groyper with the confederate flag face tattoo. You don’t have room to flirt with Starbucks unionized workers or migrant farm labor or college professionals with enormous student debts or black church parishes, because they were automatically going to vote for you anyway.
The dems become the rational alternative.
What could possibly be more rational than this?
Vote for Dick Cheney’s Daughter’s Best Friend or you aren’t serious about beating the Republican Party.
If you said you’d not include the name, you might want to edit this image…
Ryan is the person asking to take the screenshot
Good God I hate conservatives. The most selfish people on the face of the Earth. They literally care about nothing until it affects them.
There’s a good What Now with Scott Galloway.
I’ve always been enamored of Trevor Noah’s comedy but his daily show didn’t draw me in. This podcast though, mostly, is thoughtful and insightful.
Galloway is great, he’s rich but he’s pretty no bullshit in how he talks about it. And men, in this podcast.
Their discussion offers better perspective and long game insight than this guy.
Leopards
