I thought I had finally found a healthy drink I liked with no artificial sweetness and they had to go and fuck it up
I thought stevia wasn’t an artificial sweetener. It’s just a leaf.
Stevie leaf extract is a petroleum base sweetener. It was used as an artificial sweetener , but then they found that it could be naturally occurring in small quantities and rebranded. It works like natural flavors where it can still come from petroleum so long as its naturally occurring with some source. I find it extremely bitter and soapy, just like almost every other artificial sweetener.
sounds more like aspartame, aspartame is entirely artificial, stevia comes form the stevia plant.
Could you give a source? I can’t find ANY mention of stevia being “petroleum based”.
Afaik Stevia is entirely produced from the shrub.
That’s the trouble with words like ‘artificial’ and ‘natural’. They mean nothing. It would be better to call them refined additives, because I expect the “stevia” would be in a refined, extracted form when added - whether substantially changed from the form present in the plant or not, this could be considered artificial, if we insist on using this word.
the oop said it came from petro, which isnt true. the substance which used to extract stevia isnt organic though, probably using an organic solvent, but they purify it to some extent. but alot of stevia brands only used the pure stevia from the plant.
Sugar is refined.
This is what bothers me the most from marketing. Uranium, arsenic and petroleum are 100% natural too
Careful, this drink contains chemicals!
Thanks California calm down please
/s
The only benefit this company offers with their beverages is the non-alcoholic-but-not-NA-beer tall-boy. My recovering alcoholic friend brings these to parties if he knows people will be drinking and just hold one and I’ve watched him go sober through so many situations where he’d probably have had a drink before. Not that these are the only options for that, though, obviously.
Sips from a can of tonic
Am i doin it rite
I think that’s up to you. Does it work for you? Then yes! 😃
I hate this brand, we now pay 6$ for water from a stupid can instead of having water bottles at festivals for 1-2$, the dude who owns it is friends with insomniacs owner, ruined the water supply at every festival. Redbull is typically cheaper than water now at 4$.
No ppl dont think you’re drinking alcohol like they claim its for, that has never been a valid reaon to grab it, we all know its water, someone asking you for some water should be the first clue ppl dont think its alcohol.
Where the fuck were you getting $2 water at festivals? I remember paying $5 for anything to drink back when the Mayhem Festival was still a thing.
The reason venues live the cans is that that can’t be recapped after opening, so they are harder to refill so you keep buying more instead of reupping in the bathroom.
Also to keep people from throwing full bottles of capped water at people and hurting them
I think a full can of water would hurt more
They throw away caps either way, but like 50% of ppl are nice and let you keep them
Cans are actually recyclable. That’s the benefit. The rest is marketing.
Red Bull doesn’t give you wings either.
Insomniac like the video game company? Are they problematic? Or am I misunderstanding?
They keep raising prices, keep overselling down to the night of, damn near get crowd crushed every other festival, I kinda stopped going to the more mainstream ones because of it
The company that has a monopoly on music festivals now, post covid especially.
Ah, thank you. That makes more sense.
The company behind massive music festivals like EDC.
Ah, thank you. That makes more sense.
Forget your water backpack or theres a fat line? Liquid Death is there to empty your wallet, or you can die to dehydration.
How were you convinced sweet tea was a healthy drink to begin with? https://health.clevelandclinic.org/what-is-stevia Stevia to reduce the amount of agave nectar used is making it healthier if anything. Can you actually taste it if it’s used sparingly in addition to real sugar?
To be fair, I’ve heard it’s a migraine trigger for some people, but I suppose everything is a migraine trigger for someone.
Ow, my migraine.
Stevia leaves a disgusting after taste and is an immediate deal breaker for me in any drink.
I agree if it’s the sole sweetener in a sweet thing. But if it’s combined with real sugar in a only lightly sweet thing I find it unnoticeable. I recommend giving it a shot.
I can tell every time. Nasty stuff. Reminds me of sachirine. I get that stevia is natural, but it’s taste is real obvious. If they want to use less sugar… Just use less sugar.
Like that coke ad where there’s a fake candid camera where in a theater they pretended to swap all coke drinks with coke zero, nobody noticed and everyone is laughing
WTF I would have noticed at the first sip and immediately go to complain to the clerk “you gave me the wrong overpriced drink”
For me the flavor of any sweetener gives me a terrible aftertaste, I much prefer plain water
Same. A small amount of time I can find it just passable at best. When it’s added to yogurt? Probably the worst thing I’ve tasted sold on shelves.
Fair enough if you’re in that camp
I’m sorry, you didn’t actually think this beverage was healthy to begin with, right? Lol
For starters, agave is one of the highest fructose-containing sweeteners out there. Our bodies can’t use fructose directly, so most fructose metabolism occurs in the liver where it’s converted to glucose. Overconsumption of it may promote metabolic syndrome even more than glucose.
The only two sweeteners I use are date sugar (whole powderized dates), and rarely molasses. Unsweetened teas might be an acquired taste for some, but after getting used to it, they generally add plenty of sweetness on their own.
Why do all the 0 calorie sweeteners have to taste like a dead hobo’s arse?
They don’t
Have you tried dead hobo’s arse?
Can’t say I have, how about you?
The products containing them definitely taste weirder though.
Pepsi Max is about the only one that I think tastes decent. Fanta zero? Weird. Coca Cola Zero? Weird. Sprite Zero? Does nothing for me. Sugar free red bull? Ew.
Monster’s white Ultra flavour, whatever it’s called, is semi-ok. Watermelon Ultra is OK. But neither is as good as say, Aussie Lemonade, which has sugar in it.
Of course, I’m Estonian, so the baseline here is regular sugar, not HFCS. I love Fanta, but American Fanta was disgusting.
Taste is subjective. I stopped drinking sugar soda several years ago because i’m pre-diabetic and don’t want diabetes. Sugar soda tastes weird to me now because I only drink diet soda.
How about drinking water from the tap? Much cheaper, not wasting cans, and healthy. If you live in a community with bad tap water, write a letter to your local water board, and buy a filtration tank you can put in your fridge.
If you must really have flavor, buy some of the powdered dehydrated lime or orange powder packets.
Ahhh this line of logic. Yes, people can forego luxury items and save money while being healthier. You could never eat red meat, or drink soda, or have ice cream, sure, that would be much healthier and cheaper.
That’s tea
I presume you’re not from the US.
Many municipalities across the US do not have drinkable water, and many more do not offer public access to water fountains. Thus, bottled water is a huge market in the US as free facilities are not always available.
I’m Canadian and I legitimately cannot recall the last time I bought bottled or canned water. I bring my two 18.9L jugs to the store to fill them with filtered water for $5 and that’s the extent of my “bottled water” consumption. Elsewhere, I carry a metal water bottle I can get refilled anywhere for free.
Have drank tap water across the US for decades. Some municipalities are crappier than others, but a fridge filter tank takes care of those places.
I don’t know where you got that idea, but public tap water is federally regulated in the US (at least for now). Bottled water is popular because of marketing, not because tap water is unsafe.
hows flint doing again?
How Flint is doing is irrelevant to what I said, the same as me picking on a polluted city in Canada doesn’t change the fact that Canada generally has safe drinking water.
The comment I responded to made it sound like US tap water is mostly not safe to drink. That’s demonstrably untrue. I’m not defending the horrors of industrial capitalism or condoning environmental destruction, I’m merely pointing out that the US does in fact have standards, regulation, and enforcement for drinking water quality. This does not mean it’s perfect, but it does mean that in general you can drink the water out of the tap, like I do every day.
I hate that we live in a world where only extreme viewpoints are allowed. Either the USA is the greatest country in the world or it’s a complete shithole, anything else is just shouted down. I still make the stupid mistake of caring about what’s real rather than what makes a good soundbite on social media.
“Drinking water quality in the United States is generally safe. In 2016, over 90 percent of the nation’s community water systems were in compliance with all published U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (US EPA) standards. Over 286 million Americans get their tap water from a community water system. Eight percent of the community water systems—large municipal water systems—provide water to 82 percent of the US population.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drinking_water_quality_in_the_United_States
Yes, the US is a mirage of a first-world country.
Flavored Liquid Death tastes like absolute ass to begin with. It’s like unsweetened/lightly sweetened drinks targeted at Monster drinkers
Stevia can only be added in the manufacturing process by a cyclone valve which is actually quite noisy.
This entire thread had been really disheartening
The drink on the right is caffeinated, maybe that’s why they added sweetener? The label on the left doesn’t mention caffeine.
Stevia isn’t artificial lol
Have we applied the same scrutiny to HFCS or refined Sugar itself? Or does sugar get a pass because it was the first plant processed for its sweetness?
But it tastes artificial and fucks with lots of tummies.
Yeah Stevia tastes like poison to me, super bitter.
Basically all artificial sweeteners taste like either bitter or nothing at all to me. So I’m really angry when I buy a product I’ve been buying for years and it suddenly tastes like a Nintendo Switch cartridge.
>:(
Like the sweet plasticky taste of dasani.
suddenly tastes like a Nintendo Switch cartridge.
Fuck. I know this smell. You just triggered NES and Super Nintendo memories in me. Never played Switch but I’m assuming they’re about the same.
The switch cartridges have a bitterant added to them since they’re small enough to be a choking hazard. It’s not the smell of the construction material they’re talking about.
Ah, so not the scent-memories that were triggered in me then. Different Nintendo scents, makes sense.
You’re thinking of xylitol which gets mixed with commercial stevia crystals to cut the sweetness
I think anything you’re not used to has the potential to fuck with your tummy
I have yet to find a low calorie sweetener that doesn’t bother my digestive system. My wife, who lives on diet Pepsi, doesn’t believe me.
have you tried honey? Even just a drop or two will really add a lot of sweetness
Liquorice (there’s also an actual root, not just the confectionery) is tummy-friendly, actually recognised as a herbal remedy over here for (mild) gastritis because antiinflammatory and antispasmodic (alongside helping with coughs and having some antibacterial properties) but too much will fuck with your blood pressure, avoid it if you have any issues there. A bit will probably be fine but a habit generally isn’t “a bit”.
There’s some medicinal teas over here which pretty much only contain it to taste better (otherwise makes no sense in combination with e.g. valerian). The stuff is actually sweet and pleasant, not a neutral but woody sweetness, not to be confused with North European liquorice confectionery where the predominant flavour is Salammoniac. Which are also very good… hey I grew up with the stuff, don’t look at me like that. Anyhow if you want a naturally sweet herbal tea adding a couple of shavings of the stuff should do the trick.
I have the exact same issue! Haven’t met anyone else with the same problem yet. Really sucks that more and more non-diet drinks are containing some amount of artificial sweetener.
Before this picture I thought Liquid Death was literally water in a can.
Had no idea they added stuff.
They have a few different products including plain water
Yeah the slogan goes “Don’t be scared. It’s just water.” So same here, I thought it was just water lol.
So, having a pre-chilled and conveniently-available product can be nice when you’re away from home, but if this is for at home, have you ever considered just, you know, making a pitcher of your own drink with whatever you want? Maybe take a Thermos of the stuff chilled or iced if you’re on the go? I mean, if you want agave as your sweetener, then you can make a drink with just agave and then tweak it to however you want. Food-grade citric acid is a preservative – I have a bottle in the pantry. You can purchase all sorts of flavors.
Like, if you buy a premade good, then you can benefit from the R&D done by the company, but if you have extremely exacting demands that you feel no company is making, you can rage about it or just make what you want. In general, drinks have an enormous markup – I mean, you’re mostly buying water with a little flavoring and coloring – so you can have exactly what you want and it’ll probably be cheaper, too.
I take my own unsweet tea to work in a thermos. If that runs out, I drink the bottled water they provide.
These are the same people that bitch about the plastic waste in Keurig pods.
The unsweetened tea fight is a losing battle. The only way to get it is to make it yourself.
Why would anyone want to buy unsweetened tea? Its literally less work making your own than carrying the cans from the store. And costs like 1/100
When I’m out and about and looking for a drink on a hot day I’d love if regular unsweet tea was widely available. I hate buying bottled water but I also hate sweet drinks.
Just bring tea concentrate. There are several different versions of them from paste to powder to just a tea bag and then you just need water.
Cold brew is even a thing. Tea is like the easiest thing you can make especially if you want it unsweetened.
My problem is I always want lemonade and life has apparently run out of free lemons raining from the sky for me to use and I’m not bringing simple syrup anymore.
This isn’t unsweetened tea either. It’s probably very sweet considering how high in the order agave syrup is
What about tejava (spelling?)
