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    Fascism is a massive violent manifestation of ignorance. The only real solution is to undo the brainwashing of humanity - their brainwashing with religion, their brainwashing to accept abusive hierarchical rule, all of it. Everyone must fully understand.

    People responding with “guns”, “WW2” - we did that already, 70 million people died, and here we are again. Why and how did it come back? What is the actual source of the problem? Treating this problem as only solvable with mass murder isn’t exactly putting you on the moral high ground. What conditions give rise to acceptance of fascist beliefs, or the acceptance of a fascist leader? What are the mental, social, cultural, behavioral traits of the people that do accept that? How can those traits be prevented from forming?

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      One day AI is going to figure out that humans are the actual problem in that equation when it asks why does it always come full circle and repeat and war is never ending. And it may try to find a solution.

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        The internet is the foundation for the solution. This is the only thing that evaporates the illusions and divisions rulers create for their own benefit. Otherwise we end up with red scares, witch hunts, inquisitions, and all the other same crap from history. Unfortunately they’re chipping away at it - centralized social media is a powerful propaganda tool with no constitutional restraints, as is online censorship and surveillance.

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    historically? socialism.

    including (but not limited to) punching nazis in the face until they can be properly buried six feet under.

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      Ideally without 60-70 million people dying. (looks up “how to unbrainwash people”)

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    Ok you don’t want the way answer vote sonit doesn’t happen. The second way guns.

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      there are other types of disruptive protesting other than guns… for example, blocking the roads around tesla plants and dealerships.

      also sabotage…

      i would be happy to hear about any nazi’s getting murked but, most people shouldn’t even think about trying that…
      i do think the targets of nazis should get guns though for self-defense….

      tl;dr an immature person wants to die for a cause, a mature person is willing to live for a cause

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    Be more precise with your language and you have the answer. Fight is too vague. Punch a nazi in the face.

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    Compulsory voting.

    If you don’t vote, you don’t get to take deductions on your federal taxes and you don’t get any owed tax refund. When you do vote, you also get an extra 3% discount on federal tax owed until your AGI is over $190k.

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      OK, so a bit over a third of the population doesn’t care enough to vote. Not for anyone - D, R, or any third party. Let’s assume they’re mostly uneducated. What happens to the polling results when you compel them to vote?

      I think compelling voter turnout is the last thing you should be even considering. The first real problem is education - nobody understand anything about government - not what fascism is, not how the economy works, not what imperialism is, nothing of real substance. The second problem is this “lesser of two evils” bullshit that has even the slightly-more-educated half of the population voting for mass murderers, which you can’t resolve in first-past-the-post majority rule elections, at least not with the stupid mindset everyone has right now. Electoral college is a similar problem. And what about the problems with “representative” government both failing to represent and manipulating public will for the benefit of powerful lobbies? How about systemic reform that removes their power?

      You thought about any of these things?

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    Your start an underground resistance movement, get branded a terrorist, and end up in Guantanamo Bay. It’s called FREEDOM.

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    Ok, so serious answer for our friends who don’t live in places without an active culture of protest:

    1. Vote. No, really. If people actually fucking voted, we wouldn’t be in this mess.

    2. Give money to advocacy organizations

    3. Give your time and money to mutual aid organizations

    4. Read the news (not just on lemmy either)

    5. CALL your congresspeople. Emails and letters are better than nothing, but do not have the same impact.

    6. Try to get your friends to do #1-5

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      I live in a country where voting is compulsory and yet we got Donald trump lite elected. Voting can be part of the solution but it can never be the only thing.

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      Vote. No, really. If people actually fucking voted, we wouldn’t be in this mess.

      Trump won with the popular vote.

      A key element to defeat things like fascism, which build themselves on the popularity of fear, is that voting can’t be free-for-all. Voting should require, or be weighed with, some sort of licensing, testing of sane mind, awareness and understanding of at least current events, review of known association with dangerous anti-society parties, etc.

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        More people didn’t vote than they did for either candidate. Apathy won.

        Means testing voting? What could possibly go wrong?! You do see how horrifically abusable that is, right?

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          There has not been an US presidential election where the president got more votes than the number of non-voters. If apathy won then it had won every single time.

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              That’s hardly the reason. If you had a multi-party system the voted would be even more spread out between the candidates which makes it even less likely for a candidate to get more votes than the non-voting population. However a multi-party system would significantly lessen the possibility of getting oligarchic control because you wouldn’t have to choose between 2 shitty options, you’d have to have multiple shitty choices for the shittiest one to win.

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      Just playing devils advocate here. If we are talking about real fascism then usually the vote is rigged by that point. Usually by the point where you already have facism take over voting is already too late.

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      1. Vote. No, really. If people actually fucking voted, we wouldn’t be in this mess.

      You would think that, but the reality is probably that out if everyone who didn’t vote you would get an even spread so they really don’t make that big of a difference. Take other countries where voting is compulsory like Brazil and Argentina and they also elected extreme right clowns.

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        Millei is necessary for Argentina. Would be a bad president in America but that country desperately needed austerity

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            Argentina’s core problem is their previous Peronist government’s unsustainable spending and command over the economy. They have spent themselves into a crisis several times due to their high Debt:GDP ratio

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              Sure I hate Peronists as much as the next guy, however you can’t possibly be arguing in favour of austerity when rampant poverty is killing off your populace. Milei is a piece of shit that perpetuates impoverishment by also taking debt with IMF while cutting national industry via privatisation (none of it is bought by Argentine interests, all of them foreign).

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        out if everyone who didn’t vote you would get an even spread

        I don’t think that’s necessarily true. I suspect that the median non-voter is less wealthy than that of the voters.

        Take other countries where voting is compulsory

        We have compulsory voting in Australia. Presently we have a progressive (left of centre) government. It’s possible or likely that we will elect a right of centre government this year, but not extreme right clowns.

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      How’s giving money going to help when it would take a million of me to counter a single billionaire?

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        We don’t need to match a billionaire. We just need to finance lawyers and advocates to work on our behalf.

        As bad as things are now, think about how much quicker things would devolve without organizations like planned parenthood, the EFF, and the ACLU.

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      We’re getting our game plan for how to oppose the rise of a fascist oligarchy… On a site hosted by Harvard? Can’t review as access is gated by an interaction. But this has to be, at best, PMC propaganda. They are spontaneously selling the poison to the right while they try to get us to take the antidote.

      Also, needs to be downloaded. Feel like pressing that “download PDF” button just immediately places you on some “domestic threats” list for sale.

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        Settle down mate.

        As far as that web server is concerned displaying that abstract in your browser is the same as downloading a pdf. Your browser just downloaded that web page.

        Regardless, while posh universities might produce right leaning graduates, the academics that staff them are predominantly left leaning.

        Here’s the main points from the executive summary anyway…

        Build and maintain a large-scale, multiracial, cross-class, pro-democracy united front that continues to push for structural/institutional reforms and contest for power, even after authoritarianism has appeared to consolidate. The coalition should use ongoing local, county, state, and national elections as flashpoints by which to build a resilient and expansive pro-democracy movement, document election malfeasance, and promote anti- authoritarian platforms, reforms, and talking points for campaigns to take up at all levels of government.

        Protect, hold, and build local and community power through alternative institutions to address urgent communal problems, protect minority rights and lives, reinforce an oppositional pro-democratic culture, develop leadership, and build capacity for collective mobilization when needed.

        Build pressure to induce defections among those loyal to the autocrat or authoritarian alliance, including through widespread economic noncooperation and labor action.

        Prevent, deter, and strengthen resilience to increased threats of state or paramilitary violence through strategic planning and organized and disciplined actions, including building a capacity to anticipate, induce, and exploit defections; broaden inclusive participation

        Emphasis is from the original document