• Bronzebeard@lemm.ee
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        Our election system mathematically guarantees there will be only two useful choices. Any attempt to swap one of those out requires years of transition in which you are actively helping the side who agrees with you even less to win and move you further away from what you want.

        Until we have more ubiquitous ranked-choice-esque systems, that will not change.

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            Yes, but this has to be done in a more local level. Trying to force a new party into existence starting at the federal level is not planning for success

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              Exactly, from the bottom up. Local candidates are probably the only ones you have a real chance of meeting and engaging with more often.

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      If only Kamala had won, then the Biden administration wouldn’t be doing this

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    As a person who grew up in American schools post-Columbine, with kids in schools now, and none of us are CEOs, this is probably the take that saddens me most about this whole event. It’s our kids, and the argument used to be about freedom. Soon, we won’t even have that. What was the fucking point? (Rhetorical: profit)

    I know we’re all alive at a special time in humanity. We think we’re so civilized. Then I look around, and it’s the same history playing on repeat. When do the monkeys figure out it’s one species? (Rhetorical again: 😬)

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    This is because the Government with Republicans and Neo Liberals are about business interests over the American people. People need to just start sharing their denials from United healthcare every time they right a piece how Luigi is evil. So tired of this bullshit. And here is another thought pro lifers need to start protesting for universal healthcare to be consistent.

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      They’ll make it illegal to share “sensitive information” like healthcare insurance denials, and they’ll punish you for releasing your own sensitive information.

      And then they’ll go after anyone reposting it for violating your rights, they’ll charge them on your behalf regardless of whether you protest that you don’t want to charge them.

      They’ll violate you in weird ways.

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          https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/abortion-clinic-violence-terrorism

          “While the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) has maintained that these actions are not terrorism, this article suggests that there is a correspondence between incidents perpetrated between 1982 and 1987 and standards classifications of “limited political” or “subrevolutionary” terrorism. Perhaps the FBI has declined to accept the terrorism definition because of its preoccupation with international events which are seen in terms of administrative or jurisdictional definitions.”

          That’s from 1988.

          From 1977 to 1988, an epidemic of antiabortion violence took place in the United States, involving 110 cases of arson, firebombing, or bombing. The epidemic peaked in 1984, when there were 29 attacks. Nearly all sites (98%) were clinics that provided abortions. The FBI still says that those were not acts of terrorism.

          https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1957842/

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    Unfortunately, the people doing it are the media It’s a quintessential “man bites dog” story. Normally it’s the insurance companies killing civilians. Everyone is going to cover it. The police had a manhunt because it would look ridiculous if they didn’t solve such a high-profile case.

    It’s kind of a symbiotic relationship, the media covers it, the police react harshly, the media covers it more.

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      You know what looks even more ridiculous? Only taking action on anything when the victims are wealthy. Go read about how ridiculously lax NYC laws against crime are. But some rich dude gets shot and all of the sudden the cops are Columbo, and the court prosecutors are Matlock (yes I’m aware how old those references make me seem).

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    It pretty neatly fits the definition of (individual) terrorism (which doesn’t really exist). It was an act of violence, not based on personal grievance with the direct victim, but based on grievance with the system he represented. But, yeah, they probably wouldn’t ever pull that when someone gets murdered for racist reasons, which you could also classify as terrorism.

    🎶 Because it’s about class and not about justice. 🎶

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      For what it’s worth, we do have hate crime laws that are supposed to be used in cases where racism is at play. I’m not saying it’s always used, but we do have additional penalties for it.

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    I mean, terrorism is just politically motivated violence.

    This country was founded by terrorists.

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    What a shocking surprise. Why stop there? Why not charge him with genocide? Bring him to The Hague and charge him with war crimes?

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      Too many guns, too many people willing to shoot those guns, not enough politicians prioritizing mental health

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        Gun was printed. Do you realize that there is no stopping 3D printed guns now?

        I’ve been in the community for many years, reluctantly due to their right wing tendencies. People are making 50 cal sniper rifles, 38 mm grenade launchers, and fully automatic submachine guns.

        My little AR pistol runs at 10 rounds per second. Legally

        All at home.

        The Glock used by Luigi is an old design. He just made the most reliable one (ignoring the silencer issues)

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        Mental illness like forcing your employees back into the office when they did the job remotely just fine for two years

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          One can be pro-gun and for regulation at the same time.

          Disarm the violent, arm the nonviolent. For life.

          If you so much as strike another person in anger, instantly banned for life.

          Luigi was a non-violent person, he didn’t do what he did to watch a man’s head explode. He did what he had to do

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              I wonder how long it’s going to take for you people to join the right side of the class war.

              You are not one of them. The second your child gets sick you will understand

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                  You are right, wars are not one-sided.

                  Every single year 15,000 people die just because of the claim denials from United healthcare alone. Under the leadership of Thompson, UHC committed five times the death toll of 9/11…each year

                  1 vs 15,000. Do you attribute more value to the life of a CEO then a working class family?

                  More and more people are becoming suicidal because of the way that this country is turning into the hopelessness that it drives into their souls.

                  Mark my words, this is just the beginning. Why kill yourself when you can take out someone evil beforehand?

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      You know that the gun was printed right? You could ban all guns and you would never stop someone from making a homemade gun.

      There are people in European countries where it’s completely illegal to even own ammunition, they are perfectly able to make fully automatic rifles.

      I don’t say any of this as a bad thing btw

      Unless there is a plan to strip violent people of firearms, I’m going to continue to make my own and train twice as much as they do.

      ARM THE LEFT

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          Dude there’s an entire community of people reloading their own cartridges. You will not legislate your way out of this.

          There are people creating 50 cal rail guns that use only electricity. No explosions, infinitely reusable

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    Yeah, trying to upcharge this from murder to “terrorism” is going to backfire spectacularly in the prosecutor’s face.

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      Billionaires want to be both political and non-political. They want to be the average person who “worked hard to get where they are without help” and they want to be the special upper class who deserves special protection when one of their own gets shot.

      This is very close to them admitting that class warfare is real.

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    I love how they media seems shocked whenever they find Americans who have been radicalized, when one of their counterparts have been radicalized Americans for the last handful of decades.

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      That’s on purpose - by acting shocked they expect viewers to react the same way. It’s essentially telling their audience how to feel about the story without outright saying “you should feel like this”.

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        The same way the laugh track in sitcoms ques the audience to know that something was supposed to be funny. Try watching those shows without the laugh track and see how funny they feel or how often you laugh

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      funny how murikans are Super against gun violence all of a sudden when it happened to a rich white male… but not so much when its a class full of poor kids

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    Rumor has it, if you say, “deny, defend, depose” in your phone 3 times, you’ll get charged with terrorism too. Hopefully you’re an American citizen or else it’s off to Guantanamo bay for you.

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      The unconstitutional Patriot Act says they can do that to citizens too, as long as they’re suspected of terrorism. That’s why everything is “terrorism” these days, because under that accusation they’ll strip you of your constitutional rights and do whatever the fuck they want. It’s tyranny.

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        Still, as a person not interested (usually) in agreeing with my counterparts, notice how this is a “good guy with a gun” situation. So maybe militia movement has a point. They just don’t know how to use their correctness outside of their one part of society’s fabric, but that’s up to those who know those other parts. Cooperation and collaboration, all that.

        And almost any “good guy with a gun” can be called a terrorist formally. It’s an arbitrary separation.

        So maybe gun rights really are human rights.

        You’ve probably noticed how in any group the best decisions are made when every opinion is respected, and if it’s incomprehensible, made comprehensible with good and kind effort, and where aggression and expulsion are minimized.

        It’s the same in politics.

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            Yes, my aunts, uncle and cousin live in a country reproducing “Animal farm” the last 6 years, with the end goal of being occupied and turned into a reservation. That book is more like reality than many would think.

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      If you say “Gitmo Bay” three times in the mirror, a dark universe Obama appears and snatches you.