FAFO
Yeah I haven’t told my parents I voted for Trump. Don’t plan to either, at least not soon.
Even when I was still a democrat I didn’t like talking politics with them because it was all so mean-spirited. They didn’t talk about policies or futures or problems they just talked about Republicans.
So I just don’t talk politics with them and as I started to shift I just got more and more silent. I don’t really care how they vote. I don’t really care about their politics. They’ve my parents. I’d never cut them off for opposing me politically.
But I’m worried they might. Or I just don’t know what would happen. So I don’t bring it up. They talk their shit over dinner and I smile and nod and don’t add anything, because I don’t get to see them very often, and I love them.
worried they will ask hard questions? Like, “Does he treat people like things?”
They don’t talk policies, huh?
Can you name one republican policy that’s both not hateful and something they actually follow through on? Just one.
I’m not that poster, but if you want a policy that Republicans have endorsed that’s not explicitly hateful, please consider tax cuts for the rich. Yes, the net effect is bad, but the stated motivation and I think the honest motivation is not one of malice towards the poor.
It is true that down the road Republicans will complain about the budget, so they will use their tax cuts for the rich as an excuse to try to cut benefits for the poor, but it doesn’t mean that when they cut taxes now it’s intentionally malicious. Many of them are just trying to get more money or give more money to their friends.
This absolutely fits the criteria, well done. Doesn’t marginalize people, because it hurts the majority. And they always keep their promises about this one.
That’s sad. You shouldn’t have to hide the fact that you voter for Epstein’s closest friend to your familly.
Yeah, what you dont understand is that by voting für Trump you are actively hurting woman as well as trans people and the american economy as a whole.
And, even tho Im no expert about humans, I think people dont like you if you hurt others.
And I think Democratic policies are hurting people. Like all the drug overdoses, and the military deaths, and the women being stoned to death in Afghanistan. Mismanaging the world causes lots of death, and could cause the death of all of us.
But I can’t change any of that by being mad at my parents, even if they’re connected to it by their votes.
Life’s too short to hate the people I love.
W started two illegal wars… Trump singed the order to leave Afghanistan a mess. Wtf are you voting for exactly?!?
You can’t possibly be this misinformed
and the military deaths,
what the fuck is this bullshit?
Drug overdoses are not a democratic policy.
Military deaths are a policy of both major parties.
Afghanistan is not our country. If republicans were so concerned about the Afghan people, Trump shouldn’t have pulled our troops out of Afghanistan.
Try again, maybe with something that is a democratic policy, and not just a lie that you’ve been fed.
Ah the classic:
“Your behaviour has harmed me, so I do not wish to see you anymore”
“No, wrong, it is YOUR behaviour in saying this that has harmed ME”
Idk who needs to hear this but:
Your children don’t owe you self assurance, if they chose to cut contact with you fully then that’s their right.
He’s not saying they have no right, he’s saying he’s sad they won’t come to thanksgiving. Pretty simple. You can say its justified sure, but it doesnt change his perspective any.
No it’s not, he is trying to claim the moral high ground.
It’s not always simple. I have a close family with a NC child, and he’s highly autistic and had been living at home until his mid-20s until the decision. It’s not rooted in politics or abuse, and ultimately everyone hopes that sooner or later he figures himself out. But the temptation is very strong to reach out; and the temptation to say he’s acting ridiculously is, like, not even overcome. We do think he’s being ridiculous. And we sometimes say it. But with sympathy because of the circumstances. I think the author of the original post is probably a tithead, because he voted Trump, but I don’t see him as doing that much more than what we do about this lad. Except for do it publically. And also he’s the one who’s been cut out because all of them have gone NC. So maybe not a similar circumstance at all, but probably still similar local emotional justification - i.e. I bet he feels similarly in many respects to how we feel.
Edit: I forgot to justify the relevancy. The point I was trying to gesture at with that was that moaning about it doesn’t necessarily mean you think you’re really owed. It’s just moaning. But. As I was writing the comment I realised that actually the fact that he’s doing it in a public forum under his own name is kinda different. And it goes from just moaning to, at minimum: chiding (since they could also see the message); public abuse (since their identities are - I assume - concludable from the message); and making himself the victim. So yeah actually I guess everything I said was probably all wrong, but I still rather like it as an exploration, even if it was of the wrong space, and I’m just gonna leave it up.
I’m not sure I understand what you’re talking about. You’re related to a couple who have a son who went no contact, but it had nothing to do with politics or abuse? I’m not sure how that maps onto this situation.
I know some people who have gone no contact due to manipulative dynamics, though the parents refuse to acknowledge they’ve ever done anything wrong. E.g. financial manipulation, or refusing to use their child’s preferred pronouns. I feel like if the parents apologized, acknowledged the problem, and made a commitment to change it would make everyone happier. Not sure how that applies to your story, but that’s been my experience.
The leopards, they hunger
Leopards after January
Everyone else:
If liberalism is a mental disorder than neoliberalism is a new mental disorder that is so bizarre it doesn’t even have a definition yet.
merely because they believe my one vote…
He thinks his vote doesn’t contribute or something?
Conservatives think consequences are extremely unfair. Everything is an act of god to them.
Hi daughters are victims of powerful propaganda. It’s sad but they’ll get over it eventually.
Username definitely checks out…
Right? The real news are on Twitter, you should go back there with your people.
The right denying women’s bodily autonomy is propaganda?
Yeah, c’mon everyone. What’s a little regression in women’s rights once in a while? It’s being blown way outta proportion.
The screen sings its song of doom for you. But not for your benefit. Balance that against a lifetime of parental love.
Why is the screen heavier? High technology of course.
Youre the ones who believe everything on Facebook, Fox, and Newsmax
If you read their other posts, they’re against huge corporations and for a planned economy, so they agree with leftists and just don’t know it.
“Lets give everyone medicare and break up Google and subsidize manufacturing” is hardly a planned economy. The most extreme dont wanna go anywhere past the Nordics, and we’re the richest country in the world- we could easily afford it. The only place youll meet legit planned-economy advocates, because not even all Socialists fit that descriptor, is lemmy.ml and similar forums
“I just supported taking away your rights. Why are you mad at meeeeee???”
To be fair, he might have not supported taking their rights… he might have just loved a rapist, criminal so much he was willing to overlook taking away their rights.
Slightly off topic:
When my parents divorced, I was bummed out that I had to attend two thanksgiving dinners. The second was not turkey. We charred hot dogs over an open fire (lived in the midwest at the time) and made smores. It was pretty great.
This had nothing to do with the election. It’s just a nice memory.
bummed out that I had to attend two thanksgiving dinners
I’m not skinny enough to understand this sentiment
I, too, choose this guy’s second dinner.
Check out this random story from some guy.
I don’t know why my memory of hot dogs on an open fire and smores doesn’t appeal to you. We’re different.
“Childish and rude”.
Kinda reminds me of someone.
Oh nonononono - you see, when Trump does it, he gets the good words: HE is “good at nicknames”, “strong” and “tells it like it is”. When anybody Trump doesn’t like does the exact same thing, then they are being childish, rude and it is altogether absolutely inacceptable.
I kicked my son out of the house when I found out he voted for Trump. That was 8 years and I haven’t spoken to him since. I heard from my daughter that he was homeless for a couple of years and is now working retail while couch surfing.
Why the hell is this downvoted? Good
There’s a difference between kids not coming to dinner and parents kicking their kids out of the house.
because someone’s political opinion doesn’t (usually) define who they are or even affect the rest of your family in any way.
this is like kicking your son out because they put pineapple on their pizza.
Yikes bro. Teach with love.
I’m torn on that tbh.
Hurt doesn’t heal hurt but on the other hand is rewarding disgusting behavior the way forward?
The family members who supported turning half of us into subhuman citizens don’t deserve business as usual.
History doesn’t care why germans voted in hitler in the 1930s, be it economic anxiety or hate for minorities, they’re just nazis.
I hope the three girls organise heir own thanksgiving dinner and invite their mom.
I mean white women also supported Trump…
Not all of them
yeah, but more of them voted on Trump than on Harris
Your point?
my point was to point out that most white women (that voted) voted on Trump, I’d argue it’s more valid than “Not all of them”, of course not all of them voted like that, that’s what democratic voting is all about, majority won, majority of white women voters voted for Trump
We should probably assume all 3 of his white daughters who voted against Trump are Trump supporters as well then. (Assuming the post is even legitimate)
“I let them”
Dudes showing internally he thinks he controls their votes. That he could’ve not let them had he chosen so.
So his daughters should be thankful for such a benevolent patriarch. /S
He clearly said in context “I let them vote in peace without objection or argument frome me”. Kind of like how I can either let your comment go or choose to respond without claiming to have control over you. The man is still ignorant AF though.
Your explanation is accurate, but your undercutting the importance of the statement. If you don’t have the power, then you don’t “let people” do anything.
Which is to say, he was contemplating being a giant a****** and pressuring them to vote the way he wanted, but he decided to use common sense, to not be a jerk, and now he’s asking for a prize for doing what most of us do all the time everyday.
This doesn’t make him a horrible human being, but it certainly doesn’t make him a good one. In his mind, special rules apply only to him.
You are contriving crap out of thin air here.
Well it’s kind of semantics. The symbolism behind this is not the hill you’d want to die on. Letting somebody do something can either be allowing it or simply not disallowing it. I hate Trump and his low IQ followers, but that sentence does not imply anything.
can either be allowing it or simply not disallowing it
Exactly.
When I go take a shit, did you allow it, or not disallow it? Neither, because you have no agency over me, so it’d be a stupid fucking sentence.
I’m not saying he thinks he owns his daughters like some 16th century inbred minor noble.
But connotations and implications can exist even when they weren’t particularly intentional by the writer (or speaker.)
I let you waste my time but somehow I’m implying I own you.
Sure buddy.
You’re welcome for not disallowing you to post this. I will also allow you to reply with something snarky if you like.
Sure buddy
Just to be clear; I let you say that. /s
I’m very thankful for that
Interesting that he phrased it as liberalism.
The American definition of Liberalism is the exact opposite of the original meaning, so maybe he was just being extra-oldschool?
What do you consider to be the original meaning?
To be liberal was to be open an accepting socially. The americans have changed it to mean to allow anything economically which is then coupled with bigotry because division makes the rich richer, or at least stops them being lynched
Bro this is just wrong on the fine details, starting with the fact that the original liberalism, and using that term specifically tends to mean the founding ideology of the American and French Revolutions btw, allowed racial chattel slavery and ending with the reality that the “liberal” parties in most countries besides America are conservatives.
Neo liberal / laissez-faire applies to both major parties in the USA.
Although, it’s certainly becoming less so with the GOP than the Democrats. IE: bailouts for farmers affected by their own tariffs, mass deportations which will affect business, etc.
Sure, and what ideological branch does a right winger who doesn’t follow liberalism fall under?
Is a “right winger” who doesn’t follow liberalism even a “right winger” at all, insofar as the term is used in modern US politics? Considering that without the central bird of liberalism there wouldn’t be a need for the division into right and left wing. Maybe I’m off the mark, though?
His wrongness was so great, that it caused integer underflow and him saying something correct.
Or horseshoe theory.
