• LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Only ever left a doctor’s appointment mid-appointment once. The doctor said he doesn’t believe some of my medical conditions don’t exist and I wasn’t dealing with that shit

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      I wish I’d been able to do that. But she was still writing the script for my stimulants (continuation of care) so I just let her rant about adhd not being real because if I left I would’ve lost my job

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      I too would be confused by the amount of negations and not know what the fuck he actually said, so not understandabln’t that you didn’t leaven’t

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        There’s literally one extra word they put in there. Remove the “don’t” and it’ll be fine.

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      Idk, running from unpleasant truths isn’t great either, so be careful that you’re not just shopping for a convenient diagnosis and instead looking for the truth. A second or third opinion is absolutely a good idea if you think your doctor is missing something (esp. if they refuse to run a test you think is necessary). Just remember that this goes both ways, so that doctor that tells you what you want to hear could be missing what the others have seen.

      In other words, don’t mistake hubris for confidence.

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    this should be made more clear to all patients of all ages, throughout life. they can’t force you to do anything, or do anything to you that you don’t want them to do

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      Nope. In medical, you educate and advise, the patient decides. Then it’s documented and you move on to the next patient.

      In diabetes this is often seen as a foot that is now getting amputated after years of noncompliance with medical advice, but again, all you can do is educate. People decide their own actions for themselves.

  • gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    My wife hates that I do this because it absolutely burns bridges, but fuuuuck these people

    Doctor makes me wait 30-45 minutes 3 visits in a row? I’ll walk that third time the second it hits 30m (you got charged for being that late so why couldn’t I charge them after all?)

    Job interviewer more than 5 minutes late? I’ll get up and walk out of your building without escort, I remember the way. If you can’t be on time to your own building, go fuck yourself

    • Mike D.@lemm.ee
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      I was at the dentist today. Second time they made me wait more than 30 minutes. Aside from that they asked for a much higher payment than I agreed to just one week earlier.

      I got up and told them I’m leaving and they can keep the money. The apologized profusely and convinced me to stay. They did get me in and out very quickly after that.

      I doubt I will go back for the second half of the work.

      Also happened when I took my 5 year old son to the dentist. The doctor’s policy was that no parents are allowed on the treatment room. I told my son to get out of the chair and left. Turned out that dentist was trying to put fillings in teeth that would fall out before fillings were even needed.

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        An objectionable acquaintanceship may be reconcilable.

        The person leaving might not be objective in a situation and might realize that they miss the metaphorical bridge.

        A person you dislike might be a valuable resource in other ways beyond social (especially in the referenced example of a medical professional).

      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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        Things change. For example:

        • burn a bridge at a company w/ a terrible boss - boss leaves and is replaced by a much better manager, but you have no shot because HR is still pissed at you
        • burn a bridge w/ a date - you end up working with that date and they remember how rude you were and end up making things suck for you
        • burn a bridge w/ a doctor - doctors tend to be friends w/ other doctors, so other doctors may choose to not bring you on

        That doesn’t mean you should let people walk all over you, it just means a little professionalism goes a long way. If you can’t stand your boss, give them a reasonable notice that you’re leaving. If your date is late, send them a text saying something came up and can no longer wait for them. If your doctor sucks, thank them for their time and ask for a referral for a second opinion, or if they take too long to see you, tell the front staff to cancel your appointment on your way out.

        You don’t have to put up with nonsense, but you should handle it as gracefully as you can, because it doesn’t cost you much and you never know if it’ll end up mattering.

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        Because it’s a small world. You could very well have to interact with former colleagues again or have your behavior shared with others.

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    I was amazed when we figured this out about movies. Movies is awful? You don’t have to stay and suffer. Just leave.

  • thesohoriots@lemmy.world
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    The doctor’s appointment is not a great example for the US because the system is so fucked. If the doctor is terrible, sit it out, and then request to never see them again. You don’t even have to say why (if/when the scheduler pressures you, just blame the free market: “my care will be better managed by someone else”). Because if you don’t like your healthcare in the US, you certainly can leave, but you will be stuck with the bill, and if it’s considered leaving “against medical advice,” you will be denied insurance coverage if you return for the same issue.

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      But also, make sure you have good reason to not like the doctor, regardless of financial implications. A doctor giving you bad news or making an honest but unflattering comment is an easy situation to want to leave, but bailing on that situation is not a good solution.

      I’m not trying to say one should never take a stand, just that they should make sure of their reasoning before doing so.

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          Idk “I’d rather you exercise and focus on a more nutritious diet than focus on a number on a scale or your pants. Let’s focus on getting you healthy so we aren’t just trading one eating disorder for another” is both the original meaning of that concept and probably the best approach for a doctor to take

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              No they’re telling you to exercise because it’s necessary to maintain cardiovascular and muscular health as well as playing a role in endocrine regulation. Because it’s critical to a healthy lifestyle and it’s difficult to do.

              The point of my comment was that there are elements of heath that are vital and associated with weight loss that are better separated from it because if you think of exercise as a “weight loss thing” instead of a “important element of a healthy lifestyle no matter your weight” you will be less healthy

              The plus side is exercise does help regulate the endocrine system which can help you lose weight

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                Yet the doctor is fat, they explicitly say the exercise is for weight loss, the knowledge hasn’t helped them.

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        Yeah, walking out would be more reserved for “why are you wearing that mask, don’t you know the pandemic is over?” or “don’t get (that vasectomy/your tubes tied, I know that you’ll change your mind later”.

        Just basic science denial shit, or shoving somebody else’s culture down your throat while trying to pretend it’s compassion. Stuff that no competent doctor would do in the first place.

      • thesohoriots@lemmy.world
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        Oh of course, 100%. I wouldn’t suggest changing from providers for reasons other than really botched/mismanaged/negligent care. I don’t think everyone wants to give a reason to a scheduler for the switch because honestly they don’t need to know, and I would assume the patient is having conversations way above a scheduler’s level about any issues with a provider.

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      Because if you don’t like your healthcare in the US, you certainly can leave, but you will be stuck with the bill, and if it’s considered leaving “against medical advice,” you will be denied insurance coverage if you return for the same issue.

      Insurance is just a pain in general in the U.S. For instance some people might struggle to find a new doctor in their area if they’re dealing with a specialist and have specific insurance coverages which means cutting off their toxic doctor might be more difficult.

      Burning bridges to escape toxicity is fine, just don’t strand yourself.

    • CodingCarpenter@lemm.ee
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      Some areas are lucky enough to have Kaiser. It’s just a quick click and you have a new doctor of your choice. Though the rest of Kaiser is falling to shit

    • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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      The doctor’s appointment is not a great example for the US

      It’s a terrible idea for the first world too, as our system was overwhelmed by Mah Raghts hillbillies begging the doctor for a miracle and physically threatening them for trying to treat the problem. Many medical staff left from all branches and levels of care because Fuck This. Now we’re stuck with very little service availability, and the very politicians who supported the aggressive halfwits are now convincing them it was the incumbent politician’s fault. and they’re believing it. We’re gonna be led by little Trumps next year.

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      I’ve been told at one office that they didn’t allow patients to switch doctors within the same practice. Currently, I live in a very small town, and am on Medicaid. I’ve been trying to switch to the only other practice in town (my current doctor has made 5+ screw-ups with medication, and has declined to write down my information and make requested referrals), but they’re dragging their heels. So I’m not holding my breath that it will be any better. Anyway, I guess my point, apart from the rant, is that the system is even more fucked than you say.

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        Hey, I’ve heard that one before, and big surprise, it was told to another Medicaid patient. It’s a lie that means “we don’t want our practice potentially making less money.” The provider probably doesn’t even know you were told that. I wish the gnarliest of 8th-dimensional waking nightmares on every admin who enables that bullshit.

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    Phone calls too.

    I have a friend who just won’t let you hang up. I’ve started just hanging up as soon as I say bye and not waiting for the other person on all my calls.

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    This is a weird post. You might get charged anyhow and there might be other negative consequences of just walking out. I mean yeah I agree with the sentiment that you shouldn’t have to put up with bullshit from doctors but in America at least you have to be a little more careful about it than just ghosting anytime you like. They have us by the balls and you don’t change that by just ignoring the fact.