In her first interview as the Democratic presidential nominee, Vice President Kamala Harris told CNN it was imperative to reach a ceasefire deal in Gaza, but made it clear that she would not alter President Joe Biden’s policy in the region.
However, when pressed on whether she would stop sending weapons to Israel she told Bash, “No, we have to get a deal done, Dana. We have to get a deal done.”
“Adopting an arms embargo against Israel’s assault on Gaza is not only a moral imperative but also a strategic move to defeat Trump and MAGA extremism. It is difficult for the Democratic candidate to champion democracy while arming Netanyahu’s authoritarian regime” reads a recent letter to Harris from the coalition Not Another Bomb.
Recent polling has repeatedly demonstrated that Democratic voters overwhelmingly support the conditioning of U.S. military aid. A Center for Economic and Policy Research (CEPR) survey from March found that 52% of Americans want the U.S. to halt weapons shipments to Israel in order to force a ceasefire. 62% of Biden voters said “The US should stop weapons shipments to Israel until Israel discontinues its attacks on the people of Gaza,” while only 14% disagreed with the statement.
The numbers from a June CBS News poll were even higher, with more than 60% of all voters and almost 80% of Democrats saying the U.S. shouldn’t send Israel weapons.
“The real question should have been, ‘When are you going to start enforcing U.S. law as it relates to arms shipments’ because what we are doing right now, with this United States policy, is in violation of not just international law, but also of American law, “said the Arab Center’s Yousef Munayyer in an interview with Democracy Now in response to the CNN segment. “Vice-President Harris made it clear in other parts of her interview that she wants to be a prosecutor. She wants to enforce the law, but Israel is clearly getting an exception from the Harris campaign.”
As much as I hate to admit this, I don’t think this will change my opinion on her. Don’t get me wrong, I think it’s incredibly fucked up that they continue to give them the weapons they use to murder civilians. But I also know that pretty much every president that has been elected since Israel has existed as a country would do exactly the same. The vast majority of politicians are spineless when it comes to Israel and always will be, regardless of party affiliation. No matter who gets elected it will always be the same answer with varying degrees of severity. And even if Harris wanted to do something about it, do you really think she would say anything new until she knew for a fact she was going to win? She’d get ostracized by the majority of her own party and potentially lose a bunch of those fancy endorsements she just received.
I’m not saying it’s right. In fact, it’s so fucked up it makes my blood boil. I’m just saying that politicians are fucking cowards and always will be.
But I also know that pretty much every president that has been elected since Israel has existed as a country would do exactly the same.
Your knowledge is incorrect. Please seek out better sources.
Reagan said Israel is carrying out a holocaust, and stopped them with a single phonecall. Bush Sr. stopped them by threatening arms embargo as well. Eisenhower and Ford couldn’t stomach their bloodlust either and called them off.
Israel is a client state of the US empire, it’s best to think of it as the 51st state. They do what they’re told.
What does trump say? Ultimately that’s the only person you need to compare Harris to.
Pretty similar, promising to negotiate a deal to end the slaughter asap. But there’s no reason to believe any candidate wants to end the genocide.
If you’re an American who pays for the killing, you should act in solidarity with the victims and their relatives. There should be an #uncommitted group in your state, see what they recommend.
So I’m not American, I don’t have a say in this election, but what the fuck do you mean “who pays for the killing”? Get the fuck out of here with this guilt tripping bull shit. The common man doesn’t have enough power to raise their wage by dollar, you think they actually have a say in who their government sends weapons to? Honestly, nobody (of the common people) wants this shit, but other than voting what do you expect them to do? Sure they could vote for trump instead of Harris but as you say they have a similar stance on this topic. So if there is not difference in this topic, they need to vote based on other important topics. The whole “don’t vote for anyone” tactic is fucking stupid and at this point I’m 99% convinced are propaganda bots trying to reduce the Dems votes. I suspect either funded by Russia to cause instability within the US or by parasitic corporations worried the democrats will reduce their profits slightly.
The average American has far more power over the genocide than most everyone else in the world, including Palestinians. Any act of resistance an American makes is amplified.
My point is though they only have two options, and both of those options are happy to continue funding war crimes. They are stuck between a rock and a hard place. Yet people on this platform like to make out that generic mr smith underpaid mechanic in the middle of the US is directly causing children to be murdered. Protesting is the only option but let’s be honest, that just gets ignored. So instead of these relentless posts about Harris continuing funding, why not try to focus on topics where the 2 parties differ to give the people an idea about which party might be best for them in other ways?
As you said, protest is the only option. One form of protesting is not voting, or voting third party.
There’s a very obvious third option that you’re ignoring.
You can’t even imagine it. It’s fascinating, really.
That’s what people forget, all it takes is one phone call from a US Pres. Israel is nobody.
all it takes is one phone call from a US Pres
What an amazingly simplistic view of geopolitics.
Israel is a nuclear client state. One overzealous president is all it takes to launch a nuke at Pakistan and cause a global calamity.
Pakistan? You mean Iran?
Imagine being worse than Reagan 💀
Democrats will do anything to lose an election
Never underestimate a Democrat’s ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory
Fucking Everton of politics
Controlled opposition. That’s all they are.
Whelp, there goes that hope. Back to being angry.
At least during this period of anger we won’t have to also deal with the gnawing realization that they’re 100% going to lose. Harris may still lose, and this could certainly help her along the way, but it’s not a certainty, which is kind of better?
Checkout Trump’s history of making his “close personal friend” Bibi happy if you want to be even more angry.
Many people (like myself) are simply incapable of getting any more angry at Trump.
They know he’s an irredeemable monster and not the standard politicians should be held to.
It’s when other “reasonable” politicians fail to seperate themselves from him or clear that bar and normalize his ideas/policies that we continue to get upset.
How hard is it to field a presidential candidate that is not a senior citizen and who doesn’t wish to remain allies with countries engaged in genocide?
It’s almost as if the ICJ hasn’t declared it a genocide
There are several, Claudia De La Cruz and Jill Stein. The problem is that the US isn’t a democracy and never was.
The problem is that the countries engaged in genocide allow the US a foothold in the middle East, so they can basically get away with anything. Losing that means throwing away all the military and strategic advantage in that region.
Tl;dr you may as well wish for a president that wants to demilitarize the US
Honestly, I think it might be a deal breaker for me in November. I’m willing to put up with a lot of meat-brained nonsense, but dead children so out soldiers can have an easier commute to kill more is a nonstarter.
If I do decide not to vote in a few months, and not voting gives Trump the presidency, it’s what we deserve.
Wow, what a missed layup. Guess she wants to lose all of her goodwill? Fucking strange.
There’s a lot of Jewish voters and donors.
Christian Zionists far outnumber Jewish Zionists and even Jewish people in America.
It’s still millions of likely voters. Many who retired to places like Florida where just a few votes could decide the election.
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2021/05/11/the-size-of-the-u-s-jewish-population/
That page literally doesn’t reference likely voters at all. Do you just somehow think all Jewish people are a monolith? There are plenty of Jewish people against the genocide
We know for a fact that there are hundreds of thousands of likely voters in each swing state that would enthusiasticly vote for Harris if she changed position on Israel
Jews have statistical higher voter turnout than other groups. They’re overwhelmingly Democrats. Many have bought into the Israel criticism = antisemitism. Israel has a lot of influence and can easily help the Republicans win. There are rich Jews who donate to the Democrats. The Democrats also have down ballot races to worry about.
You get that’s general findings from a global poll right? When you look at US polling on the issue, it’s pretty clear
Recent polling has repeatedly demonstrated that Democratic voters overwhelmingly support the conditioning of U.S. military aid. A Center for Economic and Policy Research (CEPR) survey from March found that 52% of Americans want the U.S. to halt weapons shipments to Israel in order to force a ceasefire. 62% of Biden voters said “The US should stop weapons shipments to Israel until Israel discontinues its attacks on the people of Gaza,” while only 14% disagreed with the statement.
The numbers from a June CBS News poll were even higher, with more than 60% of all voters and almost 80% of Democrats saying the U.S. shouldn’t send Israel weapons.
In case you ignored the polls from the article. Here’s another:
An April 2024 poll of likely voters across the U.S. found that 30% strongly supported withholding military funds to Israel until the attacks on Gaza stop; another 25% somewhat supported that conditional aid policy.
Below we asked all respondents what minimum combination of policies would secure (for non-Biden voters) or solidify (for Biden voters) a vote for Biden for President. A third or more voters in every state except Minnesota said a lasting ceasefire was among the minimum policies that would be needed to secure solidify their votes
Although voters are split on whether they approve or disapprove of Biden’s handling of the war, the vast majority (≥ ~75%) across all states still support an immediate and permanent ceasefire. Only a small minority of voters, from 11.2% to 16.1% in Minnesota and Pennsylvania, respectively, strongly approve of the President’s approach on Gaza. Of those, the vast majority in each state (≥64%) strongly support an immediate and permanent ceasefire. That is to say, a change in approach would not lose those votes, but staying on the current path risks doing so.
Seems pretty clear what voters want.
“We will adhere to US law.”
That’s all she needed to say.
She has my vote then.
And it’ll be one of her worst decisions of this campaign
It’s not like she has a choice. The defense contractors call all the shots and they want to keep the arms flowing. We vote for the promise of maybe getting a small piece of that pie to fund healthcare for the elderly, maybe, they’ll increase military spending anyways.
Not supplying weapons to Israel is not one of the options on the ballot.
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Why?
Seriously! Why!?
I don’t remotely understand this policy, and it seems that pretty much noone would vote for it if they could avoid doing so.
Israel is the country equivalent of the US sending an aircraft carrier outside a country it has tenuous relations with yet wants favorable trade. It’s how they cement the Petro-Dollar as the global currency and dominate financial capital.
Ceasing support for Israel risks hurting US profits, so the US has a monetary interest in propping up the genocidal campaign while pretending to push for a ceasefire to appease domestic tensions, however poorly.
We gotta make AIPAC happy or else they might stop paying for Pelosi’s yacht.
Her husband also made a pledge to, “fight antisemitism” when asked about Israel’s crimes.
Turns out the United States is a vassal state of the Israeli empire.
Wtf is this take, don’t even joke
Actually this is the opposite. Israel wants US involved and start another war on their behalf. US is pissed and saying what it was saying for a while, that it is getting out of Middle East. If Israel wants to fight a war, US won’t block them from purchasing weapons, but they are on their own.
It’s honestly disgusting that this anti-semitic bullshit is upvoted.
Because our government’s support of Israel furthers US financial interests in the Middle East.
The US and the UK.
US was saying this over and over and it is finally doing it, which is getting out of Middle East and letting them on their own. This is why there’s also so hard push for EVs.
The policy is to allow selling weapons, not to give them, it is also not what Bibi hopes that US will enter another war and fight on his behalf.
Trying to claim that the US is trying to get out of the Middle East is both infantile and asinine. As long as there’s natural resources to be stolen, the US will be there. If there was such a fight for EV’s, the US wouldn’t be blocking Chinese EV’s from entering the market.
If there was such a fight for EV’s, the US wouldn’t be blocking Chinese EV’s from entering the market.
So it would switch from being dependent on Saudi Arabia to China?
If China made a superior product at a good price, yes, I would buy Chinese.
Not if China is heavily subsidizing them to kill western manufacturers.
China doesn’t need to kill off western manufacturers, the West did that. Capitalism has turned the US from a predominantly manufacturing country to a predominant customer service country.
God they’re so stupid.
Israel will not stop until we take away their ability to continue.
When this war ends, Netanyahu will be removed from power for his prior crimes and likely jailed. He doesn’t want that and he’s murdering Palestinians to be sure he never sees the inside of a cell.
I wish we had an actual viable option for ending this war. But my choices right now are vote for the genocide or flee the country because Trump has promised he will make my wife’s life hell day one.
Oh cool, look the Democrats are trying to suppress the vote in Michigan.
I didn’t expect this at all and am deeply hurt.
I really thought the handpicked second most powerful person in the country would differ significantly in policies from the people who handpicked her.
I have little hope that Biden, Harris, or (obviously) Trump will actually change course on the US’s Israel/Palestine policy—but to be fair, we shouldn’t expect the vice president to openly say she would reverse the current president’s foreign policies even if she intended to.
Exactly. If she wanted to do anything about it she wouldn’t be able to even mention it. If she said anything that isn’t pro Israel, she’d just piss off Israel and a large amount of her own party. Politicians have always been cowards when it comes to Israel and always will be.
This. It wouldn’t surprise me if it comes out years later she was basically forced in this position because of ongoing peace negotiations. She’s not stupid, her staff isn’t stupid, bring pro no refugee murder is a very obvious stance. Israel, for whatever fucking reason, has us by the balls. Hopefully one day that changes and they’re just out there in their own like every other asshole. Also BB knows the more fucked up shit he does during the election cycle the better chances he’ll get the guy he wants in. Watch peace suddenly be an option when it’s clear Harris is going to claim victory.
Not changing the current policy of arming the ones doing the mass Refugee murder isn’t really pro no Refugee murder. Israel can continue getting away with the ongoing genocide precisely because we are still giving them unconditional military aid. Conditional military aid is the strong arm option to reign Israel in and force them to accept the US ceasefire proposal that passed through the UN, passed, and has been accepted by every party except Israel
Israel, for whatever fucking reason, has us by the balls.
They don’t. Their military is entirely dependent upon America. Israel is essentially America’s 51rst state. I mean, Congress even passed a law to treat IDF soldiers as if they were American soldiers.
No I would actually expect a candidate to talk about what they intend, and whatever excuse there’s not to sounds silly.
Why not? She’s not the Secretary of State and she’s not setting foreign policy like Dick Cheney.
Why must she adhere to Biden’s policies?
That $5 million in AIPAC cash says she must adhere to Biden’s/Israel’s policies.
Does it even matter which party is in power when it comes to this? It’s in America’s geopolitical interest to have a strong Israel to counter the neighboring Arab States, especially Iran. The fate of Palestine is almost a non-issue in that context.
It matters quite a lot given that Republicans as a party have openly stated that Israel should accelerate all violence against the people of Palestine and expand settlements. The Republican party previously used moabs in the middle east just because Trump wanted go see a big bang and assassinated an Iranian general after inviting him for a peace talk. It matters quite a lot.
Our situation sucks ass but it’s either the Democratic party or make things far worse for everyone far faster and completely destroy the possibility of doing anything at all.
but it’s either the Democratic Party or make things far worse
Maybe if we keep on apologizing for the genocide and maybe it will get better? IDK.
Maybe people will support a third party that is actually interested in governing and not just a spoiler party that conveniently pops up during the presidential election yeah. I’m hopeful people will actually pay attention and build local party power with the way things have been going. But time will tell.
Biden/Harris not changing on Israel is creating a growing spoiler effect to the green party. Changing position on Israel would secure so many votes and stop that spoiler effect
Voting for change doesn’t work with the ratchet effect. Demand change
Republicans stated Israel should a celebrate all violence
While the Democrats do the implementation
Bombing the middle east is also not exclusive to Republicans. Obama broke a record there.
It’s almost like America has two far-right parties pretending to be on opposite sides of a political spectrum
Actually, you just made me realize it’s THE issue. Palestine must be destroyed to create buffer zone full of militarized activated and hardened Israeli forces to make the threat even stronger than it already was. It’s not enough for Israel to be a nuclear power in the region, it has to be militarized and active for the coming decades.
unsurprising. good luck in November, I guess 👍
My god what an apt description for American polititcs. (Illegal) Aliens vs. (Sexual) Predators.
Illegal ‘aliens’ are NOWHERE close to sexual predators by nature.
Hell, by nature, illegal immigrants are more civil and respectable than ANY ‘natural born American’. Every metric and statistic will show you that.
