deleted by creator
Hasn’t mass deportation been happening since Obama? Didn’t Biden up the efforts with his administration? Kamala went down to the border and said “Do not come”, yet these people are pretending it’s not happening.
I don’t like how we currently handle the immigration, but if you think any of what is happening now or under Obama was bad, wait until you see what trump plans. To compare the mass deportations planned by trump and his plan to Obama is a bad faith, both sides argument.
Why do people on this site assume others haven’t thought of things? What is this need to be overly nit-picky and pedantic? Have you considered that maybe what I’m saying is different than what you thought and that I’m only criticizing some aspect of the whole? You’re the second person doing that today. Instead of outright accusing someone of things, why don’t you ask clarifying questions first?
wait until you see what trump plans.
What does this have to do with the comment you’re responding to?
Why do people on this site assume others haven’t thought of things? What is this need to be overly nit-picky and pedantic? Have you considered that maybe what I’m saying is different than what you thought and that I’m only criticizing some aspect of the whole? You’re the second person doing that today. Instead of outright accusing someone of things, why don’t you ask clarifying questions first?
E: Downvote if you feel identified. God forbid someone expresses their frustration at this neckbeard behavior.
This is a difficult topic, there is deportation of people who’s asylum claim fails. But there is a dog whistle to deport “the other”, especially when birthright citizenship is also whistled.
I’m starting to see the whole “endless cycle of suffering” thing now and how it came to be. The absolute madness of generational amnesia is agony.
Its the people who think it’s not that bad yet who doom us every single time
“we can yet still make more money”
I’m more in the “human nature doesn’t change under any system, and our incredibly flawed collective ability to judge someone’s character is all that ever keeps us safe” phase.
Won’t be the last time we’ll see a fascist almost take it all… Will happen again somewhere in the world, and will keep being a periodic occurrence.
I’ve watched it happen my whole life without knowing. The lessons of the past can’t be passed on to future generations. They must be relearned. I’ve seen it just trying to teach my own kids, but it’s global.
I am slowly giving up hope of politics; Hitler is after all the Chosen One of his people. I do not believe that he is in the least bit shaky, I am slowly beginning to think that his regime can really still last for decades. There is so much lethargy in the German people and so much immorality and above all so much stupidity.Victor Klemperer, I Will Bear Witness 1933-1941: A Diary of the Nazi Years
Imagine actually living in that era, not knowing how things ended as we do today. Scary.
The existential dread from the past is the same existential dread of today. We also do not know how things might turn out.
It’s not the same. Similar but not the same. Things were definitely farther along back then. Much closer to tyrannical world domination.
It’s why education is so important. It’s also why the rich (a.k.a. the Republican Party) want to gut education. An uneducated population is so much easier to manipulate - why reign in the Supreme Court, the 1%, or the government when minorities are the cause for all of your problems? It’s the same tactic that’s been used and nauseum for literally millennia. It’s tried and true, and only education will stop it. Hell, global education is the reason we are even in such a golden age right now…
Rein in*
Thanks mate!
Raining*
Uh, no?
Um, yeah?
No. @[email protected] said:
why reign in the Supreme Court
This is, based on my understanding of the whole context, an error. And not just a simple typo or harmless mistaken homophone. It actually fundamentally changes the meaning of that phrase. They intended it to say “why put controls on the Supreme Court”. But the words actually used mean “why rule as a member of the Supreme Court”. It took me 3 or 4 rereads of the comment to understand that the hyphen that preceded that phrase was meant to switch to a sarcastic tone about switching blame, rather than asking a question about Republican goals (“why go to the effort of controlling the Supreme Court…if we’re not going to abuse those powers to keep the population dumb”, or something along those lines, is what I was expecting)
So I suggested the correction: “rein in”.
@[email protected] was just…I dunno, making a shitty joke, I guess? It doesn’t add anything to anyone’s conversation.
I distinctly remember the first time I looted the reigns of chaos after farming it for months on like 5 different alts, it was reign, not rain
Rain King
I thought this was a quote about Gaza until I saw the attribution.
Imaging being in the 21st century, holding one of those signs, and thinking you’re the good guys.
It’s quite simple: Just be a profoundly stupid and broken human being.
I am willing to bet that it has significantly more to do with narcissism and a religious-indoctrination-induced mental illness than it does stupidity.
There’s a reason they’ve been attacking education for generations. There’s a reason donnie gassed a bunch of protesters to hold a bible upside down in front of a church. Religion literally teaches you to disregard logic and “just have faith”, from birth. The sooner people understand the real problem the sooner it can be resolved.
I just recently came across this on Lemmy, and thought it was a wonderful time to reuse it.
Holy fuck they made signs about it?
Harris pledged to bring back border security bill
She’s openly promising to be worse than Trump.
I don’t see anything in the Biden bill about deporting people who have been living in the US for any amount of time. It seems to be all about quickly turning around new migrants during “surges” and changes to the way new cases are handled. I’m not saying I support the bill, but it does not seem to be a mass deportation bill. Tell me if I’m wrong.
It’s not a mass deportation bill, but it is an asylum denial bill that violates international law and it’s one that Trump killed.
Trump killed a legitimately bad and cruel bill. He did it because he’s a petty idiot and he didn’t want to let his rival have a “win”, but he still did it. Harris promises to bring that awful shit back. All bipartisan bills are bad, every time. Whenever democrats start talking about bipartisanship, realize what they’re actually talking about is fascist collaboration.
The other party is the enemy. We shouldn’t be working with them, we should be- doing something else with them. 🙂
Yeah muricas politics is fucked, yet Trump is still a worse choice in pretty much all regards. I could even imagine him bringing back a worse law…
It’s choosing for the lesser evil…
The lesser evil is doing genocide.
Trump is the vulgar evil, which is why under Trump we saw the largest protest movement in US history. When Trump does and says his stupid evil bullshit, people fight back.
Bipartisanship is the boring evil, it tries to lull people to sleep. People in the US are still fighting back against the bipartisan genocide consensus, but it can’t reach the same critical mass of outrage that happened under Trump.
As far as I’m concerned Democrats who appeal to bipartisanship are fascist collaborators, and collaborators are not a lesser evil.
The lesser evil is doing genocide.
And the greater evil will do more genocide. It’s not a hard concept to grasp.
If the government is doing genocide it must be stopped by any means necessary.
And how? With two bad choices (but one less bad)? You want to run against the strongest military in the world and police? Don’t get me wrong, but I would also wish for different politics in the USA, but it ain’t realistically happen. So as European I can just hope they don’t vote for that racist narcissistic douchebag Trump. I mean my respect for Americans suffered irreversibly when he got elected in the first place…
Mass deportation? Start with the ones holding the signs. Keep going till there are none left.
Well that’s just unfair on whatever countries they’d go to
Only 29.2% of the world surface is land. Seems weird to focus on that area when deliberating where to send them.
Who said anything about sending them to another country?
Toss them on a boat, and only fuel it up enough to make it halfway to their destination.
I heard the great garbage patch in pacific is nice this time of the year.
Huge stretch
Is this real?
I had to look into it because all I was finding was still images or articles that talked about it but didn’t have any pictures of it once you clicked into it. It’s unfortunately real, this vid has a segment with Rachel Maddow and Jacob Soboroff at the RNC convention last month (where this took place) talking about it and showing them.
That video clip was the only thing I could find and it’s on a horrible website, I don’t suggest going beyond looking at that video. I spent the past hour trying to find the segment on another site but no one seems to have it (if someone finds the same segment let me know so I can update the link and remove the other one).
Apparently it is.
Mass Deportation Now!” declared the signs at the Republican National Convention
https://www.cbs58.com/news/mass-deportation-now-signs-on-display-at-milwaukee-rnc-spark-conversation
Thatmass can be the starter of yhe deportation movement. Guarantee you 90% or more of them are anchored outside the US
Pretty sure some of the early immigrants to the americas went to the trouble of learning the natives speech if for no other reason than to help with trade
Do they mean to say deport themselves? Isn’t America a land of immigrants essentially at this point?
I bet many of these folks have have Irish ancestors who escaped poverty and the famine. That’s like telling people to go back to their poverty-stricken land. Which is impossible considering that climate-change is only creating economic disasters many developing countries.
I say this and will say it again: there are no such thing as illegal immigrants anymore in the face of climate-change.
Undocumented Immigrants ≠ Illegal Immigrants. It isn’t illegal to be human anywhere.
I feel if they don’t like having non white people here in America, THEY SHOULD FUCKING MOVE. People like this need to fuck off to the sun.
We should deport them to Idaho. Build a wall around it, and shoot anything that tries to leave on sight.
Europe here. We don’t want them.
It’s ok though because Anne Frank’s diary has been banned in several states so there is no conflict.
What states? I’m curious
A quick Google search gives Texas, Florida, and Virginia.
Trump wins and we have camps by the end of 2025. We should expect the executions to start shortly after
The camps are already built, they just aren’t being used yet.
