• Rivalarrival@lemmy.today
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    Mark Kelly.

    Navy Pilot, Navy Captain, Astronaut, Senator, husband of Gabby Giffords, twin brother of Scott Kelly with similar resumé, and he’s only 60. He and his brother can each win two terms and still be younger than Trump is now.

    He also flips red states blue: he’s pretty much the only Democrat who has won anything in Arizona in decades.

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      “only 60” - the depressing state of politics. There’s a good amount of places where you’d retire before completing a single term at that age.

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        Agreed. I’m rather tired of the nation being run by workaholics. I want to retire someday. I want a candidate who shares that value, and builds a nation where I can do that.

        Ideally, I think the oldest a candidate should be is 57 at the beginning of their first term, so that they retire from professional politics by 65.

        That being said, no candidate is ever going to be perfect, and, he’s still 24 years better than the current option.

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          Good thing China has a number of honey trap spies. I’m sure Schiff will be eager to tell them all the dirty, dirty secrets of a US President

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        And the reality is modern medical science has made 60 the new 50.

        Which kinda works. because modern education has made 20 the new 14.

        /s
        //class wars are awesome!

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        Adam Schiff is a lawyer and California Democrat. He would easily win the blue states, but so would about 30 million other Democrats.

        The red states will hate him, and he’s opposed by BLM, so he won’t be competitive in the swing states either.

        There’s nothing special about him.

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          That’s fair. I’d vote for him, but then again I’d vote for a soggy roll of single-ply toilet paper over Trump.

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      Seriously, try being the candidate talking shit about an astronaut and decorated servicemember. “I like people who stay on Earth.” Well I don’t!

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          He could retort by saying that he was obeying gravity, but falling continuously towards the earth while traveling at a speed that kept him from hitting the ground.

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            That implies the earth is round which might alienate some voters from that base.

            Although… It might attracted the “I’m a sekrit abelian” bloc…

            We should shop this, maybe do a tabletop…

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      I’ve actually been casting him as VP in my head for like four weeks now.

      I think it’s more likely than Biden being president next year, so fingers crossed.

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        Harris will get steamrolled by either Trump or Vance; Kelly wipes the floor with both of them. I think Kelly needs to be on the top of the ticket, and Harris needs to step down as well.

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          Unfortunately I think casting away Kamala as the pick would do more harm than good. She is the likely candidate. Joe can even make the transition smooth by entrusting the rest of his legacy with her, which is the reason he chose her as a VP in the first place.

          People also know the name Kamala Harris, and they’ve known it for years now. It’ll be a huge turn to bring in a new candidate on top and do all of the rallying needed to get votes.

          I think Kamala’s success will spend on the VP choice, her administration, and her campaign team more than her herself.

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            She doesn’t have a significant enough presence to challenge Trump. People may know her name, but they couldn’t pick her out of a lineup.

            Kelly just has to stand there while being introduced as “Astronaut” or “Fighter Pilot” to remind everyone that Trump hasn’t actually done anything with his life.

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          Did you not read the graph? She’s a lock.

          I mean, Kelly is a lock too. Anyone who can fog a mirror and doesn’t get an erection watching Starship Troopers will win this election. But Harris is kind of right there already, so that works for me. She could probably keep using the same email address and business cards. That’s a nice plus.

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      Mark Kelly as Kamala’s VP? Having that balance of ethnicity would help her get the votes. It’s exactly why Obama picked Biden

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        Kelly’s “blue” credentials are sound, and his history will appeal to many otherwise “red” voters. He is a real threat to poach votes from Trump’s base in red and swing states.

        Harris can’t do that. She’s a lawyer, and everyone hates lawyers.

        But nobody votes for the bottom of the ticket. Harris/Kelly loses; Kelly/Harris wins.

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      I don’t know if you can read the text easily on mobile, but there’s a joke in the text describing there about how he is indeed committing genocide.

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      Not completely ignoring - I assume that was the swipe about “only engages in genocide reluctantly” was about.

      Myself, I agree with you that we haven’t seen much sign of that reluctance.

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      First: I don’t get to vote in presidential elections (I’m a Californian).

      Second, Biden isn’t going to be on the ballot in November.

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      A little yes and a little no.

      I think all of these people are monsters, but I’m also trying to find the best option among bad options. If Harris is president, I can live with that. If Trump gets elected again… I think the possibility of Palestinians getting exterminated becomes a genuine possibility, and the damage to our climate and our ability to reverse course after four years look very fragile.

      It’s very depressing.

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        If Trump gets elected again… I think the possibility of Palestinians getting exterminated becomes a genuine possibility, and the damage to our climate and our ability to reverse course after four years look very fragile.

        Biden has given unconditional support to Israel, and had even circumvented Congress to give them more material support. Biden has not only done nothing of substance to fight climate change, but has approved more federal oil drilling permits than Trump.

        If Trump did the things Biden did, Democrats would correctly call him a war criminal and threat to the planet.

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    Kamala is literally a Hitler. Woman openly laughs at forced labor prisoner slavery. The difference between the actual nazis and her office as DA is that they targeted blacks and browns instead of jews. Idk why so many cucks are fangirling over her rn

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        https://prospect.org/justice/how-kamala-harris-fought-to-keep-nonviolent-prisoners-locked-up/

        She repeatedly fought to keep non violent criminals locked up in inhumane conditions explicitly for their labor capacity. CA makes big money selling slave labor @ $0.75/hr paid to the inmate.

        She is descended from Jamaican slave owners, probably with slave ancestry mixed in. You’d think it’d be an easy slam dunk win for hee to eradicate slavery in the US but the money too good. She got bought.

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        I grew up in Oakland, as DA she would put people in prison for weed. These same people were in prison after legalization, and their crimes were not black market dealers or anything like that. Just regular dudes who wanted to smoke up.

        It’s unfortunate. She has not been particularly great at doing what her constituents wanted.

        https://www.npr.org/2020/10/13/923369723/lets-talk-about-kamala-harris

        This article does a pretty good job conveying how her policies were inherently conflicts of interest, but in short, The “Back on Track” program for non-violent first time offenders was primarily for people with weed convictions. The idea is that they would admit to the crime, become a felon, have their record expunged.

        Now, how exactly does non-violent weed crime exists during a time where California has it legalized? And she took a long time to come around on legalization itself. The answer? It doesn’t, she has gotten the nickname “top cop” as a prosecutor and has law enforcement as her main supporters as she lost support from progressive Democrats for her actions.

        Now, I don’t dismiss her entirely, but I’m not entirely trusting of her either. She doesn’t have the history to indicate she would suddenly flip and be super progressive. That said, when she has a conviction, she does stick to it. Early in her career as district attorney she vehemently opposed and fought against the death penalty - to which Diane Feinsteinn criticized and said she wouldn’t have supported her had she known this.

        All this to say - she has accomplished a great deal, but it has been because of how many she has thrown under the bus. That makes it difficult to trust that we wouldn’t just be thrown under the bus again.

        Edit: Wrote all this before learning Biden dropped out. Wow!

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      This is a common layman misconception. The term “hitler” isn’t actually based on how much the candidate engages in human rights abuses: it’s just a marker of how widely voters recognize them as “hitler-y” (to use the technical term).

      A fun fact: within the field of meme political science it’s recognized that if we did apply a quantitative rubric, ALL of the US Presidents are actually hitlers!

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        Nahhhhhh we had a black guy once. Can’t have a black Hitler. Would kamala be the black Irma grese then? Pretty sure you can totally have a black Irma grese

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    Kamala is definitely a Hitler in a woman costume. Bitch openly laughs about forced labor and prison slavery. Fuck her in every orifice with sandpaper.

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    I imagine Trump has only a partial check there. He’s not any young, just seems to be hiding that fact better.

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        There’s a slurry of drugs keeping the Jonestown dreamsicle on his feet, I don’t know if he’s any more alive than an LLM at this point. He’s certainty less cogent than one.

        At least Biden is still just running in “old human” mode.