“Political violence is absolutely unacceptable”
This is not what I needed to start my day to.
This makes it sound like non-political violence is acceptable…
It totally is in the US. Most politicians completely support NRA lobbyists and a best give mild lip service to gun control while the violence rages on. Did you think they gave a shit about non political violence?
Look Bernie, you would have been a great president but cut the crap.
Political violence was unacceptable because he is white in a western country. He’s a clear danger to the states, global stability, human rights and environmental progress. If he was in Iraq 4 countries would have already tried.
You know what, I fucking wish Biden ordered it. Then it would not even have been a crime.
I think it should be easily defendable in court - clear danger to States democracy - even if it wasn’t Biden.
It sets an incredibly dangerous precident- but so has every Trump has already done and wants to do.
He’s wrong. That’s okay, he can’t be right about EVERYTHING…
I’m suddenly reminded of the games Democracy 3 & 4.
His political adversary doesn’t think it’s unacceptable. He led several thousand people to Congress to lynch the vice president after he lost the election.
Really wonder what Trump would’ve said if Bernie got shot. Probably offer a pardon to whoever was involved. Maybe even a Medal of Freedom.
Beside it not being the proper democratic way of deciding how to be governed, the problem with political violence is that it quickly spirals out of control and can burn everything to the ground.
I met a man in the jungle who was […] like a tangerine. […] Some people just want to watch the world burn
-Michael Caine as Alfred Pennyworth in the Dark Knight
Stop relating everything to silly movies. Americans…
Life imitates art, or something.
Isn’t that what Donald’s puppeteer wants?
Oh, I know that. And I’m willing to bet Trump does too. That’s why I said what I said.
And here we have the Paradox Of Tolerance.
The world would be better off without people like Trump in it. I get that we don’t want to be like them in espousing violence against people we don’t like, but at the same time when you have a person who objectively will make the world a more dangerous and unstable place, along with effecting actual harm against the citizens of his own country, you can only be so tolerant.
Tolerance isn’t a paradox; it’s a social contract. Trump broke that contract on Jan 6 and is no longer protected by it.
This is what I was referring to, though I don’t disagree with you.
The problem with most paradoxes is that they’re strawmen.
Let’s look at the Wiktionary definition of Tolerance:
- (uncountable, obsolete) The ability to endure pain or hardship; endurance. [15th–19th c.]
- (uncountable) The ability or practice of tolerating; an acceptance of or patience with the beliefs, opinions or practices of others; a lack of bigotry. [from 18th c.]
- (uncountable) The ability of the body (or other organism) to resist the action of a poison, to cope with a dangerous drug or to survive infection by an organism. [from 19th c.]
- (countable) The variation or deviation from a standard, especially the maximum permitted variation in an engineering measurement. [from 20th c.] And as sugar on top, the etymology: From Middle French tolerance, from Latin tolerantia (“endurance”), from tolerans, present participle of Latin tolerō (“endure”).
So tolearnce isn’t some omniforgiving quality, it’s the quality of “I don’t agree with you, but am prepared to endure up to a reasonable point”. This simple check at what the word means renders the paradox moot as the formulation of the paradox implies tolerance to be an infinite amount of forgiveness when it’s in fact a very limited amount of enduring things. And this limitedness is present in all uses of the word, be it in politics, engineering or medicine.
Rising up against state oppression is what the 2nd amendment is all about, my guy
Bernie, you’ve always been a better person than I.
Fuck Trump, and I wish the bullet would have cracked his skull open like a piñata.
Guys, if the assassination was successful, he would have become a martyr. That would be worse. This is still a bad thing. People forget that when Reagan was shot his approval rating went up. I would bet that this just won Trump the election.
Nah, then the losers lose their golden calf and spend the rest of the time in fighting for control of MAGA. What’s the real downside? 2028 gets lost? That’s going to happen anyways.
Regardless of your personal opinions, there was pretty much nothing else Bernie was going to say, other than perhaps nothing.
Why can’t he say “shame the shooter missed”?
Because openly expressing your desire for Republican leaders to die will radicalize base Republicans, which will result in them either committing more terror attacks, or for them to even start demanding a newly elected Trump to be even more far right than he’s already expected to be.
Radicalising republicans is worth radicalising democrats. Republicans will radicalise themselves anyway, democrats need to be radicalised now.
Nothing can be a very powerful thing to say. I wish he had said nothing.
I’m hoping Bernie may have been wishing the shooter a speedy recovery before he knew they had been killed/died too.
Well staging an assassination on yourself going as far as using a movie blood capsule on your ear, but then taking it too far and make it obvious by doing an impromptu photo op under the flag is not actually the type of political violence we should condemn.
And conspiratorial post-hoc wound licking is not what we should be engaging in.
Ok Michelle Obama you keep going high
If you think that planet X isn’t manipulating people via Tower 7 radiowaves, you got another thing coming, buddy.
Wow, that’s mental.
Okay, Michelle Obama
Do I need to have you committed? Are you doing okay, man?
Let me guess, the conspirators can all be found hiding in the basement of a pizzaria?
Class act. Bernie should have won.
I’m so tired of people shitting on Bernie for condemning the violence. This is what decency looks like, and I have no idea why people think goading on more violence will make anything better.
