I wanted to buy something second-hand. Unfortunately, Facebook Marketplace is the shit where I live. So I thought I could quickly register, contact the seller, and delete my account afterwards.
However, I refuse to participate in this insanity. Video selfie my ass, Facebook.
ofc not to train ai
Maybe all a friend for help? That’s my strategy and I have an active account. I just didn’t want to look at it
Yeah, that’s a good idea. Thanks.
Instead of sacrificing your friend’s face to Facebook, you can sacrifice an AI-generated face. I commented above:
You can bypass this via https://github.com/hacksider/Deep-Live-Cam. You can get the faces needed from https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/. Although if you are privacybro, there’s no documentation yet for running Deep Live Cam on Linux. This method is more private than using phone numbers since you can do this with disposable emails.
Would signing up with a PC instead of the mobile app solve that? A lot of PC’s don’t have webcams.
This might help, I made my last account a few months back and only had to provide a selfie photo (which I got from here)
Lol genius!
This is the reason i haven’t delete my facebook, my pre-massively-enshittified account doesn’t need to go through any of this shit.
It’s funny because I created an IG a year or so ago and I don’t recall it asking these questions.
Edit: don’t ask me questions that require logging in as I don’t know my password
Ig and fb is kinda separated iirc, even when it all fall under Meta. So does Thread.
I recently deleted it since my friends finally decided to move on from messenger to… Instagram.
Progress is progress right? Anyway I’m not planning on ever using the marketplace so hopefully I will never need an account again.
that’s not progress, it is trend. in zero ways it is better.
it’s progress in the way that it’s not on a dead platform anymore and I need one less social media account
I cant comment on dead platform, but did you register on instagram for this reason, or was that an old account? in the former case you don’t have one less accounts. but then one could also argue whether deleting one meta service account and registering another makes a difference
Yeah, I regret deleting my old account now. I never used it except for marketplace. Now I’m realizing Craigslist is pretty much dead in comparison
I made an account over decade ago, never really used it even back then because I was suspicious even then. Then i tried logging in years after that and they demanded passport or some other identification to even let me log in.
So i sent them a picture i drew myself, i would post it here but i dont think i have the file anymore. It was basically like a mockup passport with picture of a clown and a stamp with picture of middle finger. I hoped they would just ban my account or something since that is about best I can hope. They would never abide by gdpr request and even if they say they did there is no way to know if they actually did.
I’m in the same boat. I have leftover PC parts to offload and Craigslist is shit and the Nextdoor app doesn’t have as much reach from what I can see.
I don’t regret deleting mine. I don’t need any of that shit, fuck ’em.
Fuck that shit.
I left FB before the pandemic and don’t regret it. When I still had an account, I had to verify my account by sending them my DL. I did it but blanked out my address and DL #. That was invasive enough. This is just insane.
To confirm your identity…
Yeah, bullshit. This is to help train their facial recognition AI.
It’s deff KYC bullshit first and fore most. Training data is a cherry
Kyc requirements are for banks
Yeah banks and other financial institutions are elegally madated to do it.
Social media does it for “fun”
this is not a kyc requirement imposed on facebook based on laws, but by facebook based on their ToS.
I mean, it’s a bit of both.
I don’t think they care if you’re real anymore
They care quite a bit.
Bots and spammers make for miserable revenue generators. If you don’t distinguish your marks from your players, there’s no way to make money at the poker table.
I would agree with this if Zuck hadn’t been in the news recently talking about how Meta is desperately filling their userbase with bots, on purpose
There is a big difference between bots you control and use for you own gain, and bots that someone else owns and uses for their gain
Their point still stands - the bots need to know who to target to generate revenue, otherwise they waste your money.
I would agree with this and in fact I do
~ Mitch Hedberg
Can’t really be a bit of both because they can’t confirm shit if they don’t know what you look like in the first place. It could be to confirm that you are human (and maybe that you don’t already have an account) but they can’t confirm your “identity”.
and if they find or know a way to sell that with the other data colleted from you, they will proudly do it
I would sooner put my nuts in an iron vice while running 10.000 volts through it and lighting it on fire than provide Facebook with anything at all.
I think I will steal your wording for future use.
Have you ever had a Facebook account?
Even if you don’t have a facebook account, you’ve got a facebook account.
I had one many years ago because my wife talked me i to it and ‘deleted’ it due to not using it after a couple years because it was showing me other things than just my contacts even back then. It was mostly a way to see my hogh school acquaintences and childhood friends who moved far away were still alive.
The superficial connections were fine, but not engaging like nearby friends. I have one friend who does post there and sometimes forgets to put it elsewhere, but my wife lets me know when he does.
Note: I put ‘deleted’ because there is zero chance they deleted anything other than the ability to log in.
Nope. Managed to stay off of it for my entire life so far. Reason for it was that back in '05 or a bit later one of the very first things I learned about the nascent Facebook, was Zuck’s famous “Dumb fucks” remark about his early users. I rightfully concluded that someone with such a mindset would be an absolutely plague on mankind and I would never willingly help them in any way, no matter how insignificant.
What socials have you had then?
Reddit until two years ago, and now Lemmy. That’s honestly it.
Fair enough, I honestly applaud you for that, because you’ve managed to avoid the data sucking machine of meta and its services
Same for me. I never understood what motivated that content and, by extension, why I should care about consuming it.
Ooo you had a cheeseburger tonight! IDGAF.
Some witty political insights! Fuck off.
Your child was born! Wonderful, send an email or an announcement card in the mail.
Large scale emergency! I’m going to a reputable news source; I don’t need user-curated echo chambers.
Old friends and acquaintances catching up? I’ve had the same cell phone number for 25 years. If they wanted to reach out, they can refer to the phone number I wrote in the yearbook.
It’s just dumb.
How about putting googly eyes on your nuts and making a video selfie of them to send Facebook?
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that might actually get him verified
Me too, but it has nothing to do with Facebook. Don’t kink shame me.
Glad I kept my last burner account
For years people have given me the blinking stare of unbelief when I tell them I’ve never had a Facebook. Now being absent on that platform and others is seen as suspicious. I got a buddy who couldn’t complete a job application because Facebook was a mandatory field in the electronic form. The border Gestapo and the State Department require your socials for visa applications. A friend told me that she wouldn’t date a guy without socials because she browses them as a kind of background check.
Fuck Meta.
For years people have given me the blinking stare of unbelief when I tell them I’ve never had a Facebook.
The same people who two decades ago would have look at you sideways for using internet to talk with strangers. These idiots always conform to what is popular.
That’s a generational thing. 99% of my friends and people of my age I know have never had Facebook.
Instagram, however…Too old or too young?
Too young. Most facebook users are actually boomers nowadays.
Most of those are indeed bullshit since authorities have better platforms and businesses don’t need to know your private info.
But women doing background checks to see what kind of men they are dating on the only platforms they have access to is just security. You can even leave your accounts info fully locked except for friends.
No, it’s quite healthy to each having their private account they don’t share with their partner. Guess what the reverse is.
Huh
I don’t follow either. It sounds like they’re talking about couples making joint Facebook accounts, which is a complete non-sequitur from all the comments before it.
But I might be wrong, as it seems a lot of people understand something that we’re missing. Would anyone that understands this better mind giving some clarification?
Same, I always assume the worst with big companies and/or data.
They were always scummy.
Never gave my name or info, never been on social platforms unless there was a good reason to be on them.Apparently you’re a modern horror story.
I got this on one of my joke accounts years ago.
I googled “3d face generator”, clicked on the first website, and slapped in an image of trump. Then I just rotated the 3d model following whatever the instructions were, and it worked lol
which means a bot could also easily pass the test, even though they claim it’s for checking you are not a bot
Discord asks your phone number for logging in from different locations when you already have TOTP 2FA and they still try to gaslight knowing your phone number is for your “security”
Yeah I am out too. Sellers won’t trust a new account anyway. On top of that Facebook marketplace was a nightmare even back then when I was active. People not showing the right prices, people not telling you what they want for a product, products not being what they show etc. I am very happy without the product anyway
“Make me an offer” is the worst.
Especially when they put the price as free and then say make me an offer!
At least put $1 so I don’t have to see your bullshit at all if I filter correctly.
Yeah. Because they already know what price they will accept or won’t. So it would be faster if they just mentioned that price instead.
These verification systems have already been defeated with locally-run AI models. This is now only a barrier to humans.
also helps feed their mass surveillance
Google does similar, stating it’s for safety.
You can bypass this via https://github.com/hacksider/Deep-Live-Cam. You can get the faces needed from https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/. Although if you are privacybro, there’s no documentation yet for running Deep Live Cam on Linux. This method is more private than using phone numbers since you can do this with disposable emails.
Modern problems require modern solutions! Thanks.
Oh, sweet. Not using Facebook, but that’s nice !
use a VPN in Helsinki with fake ID to create a Facebook page so I can buy a used pushmower in Tennessee.
2025, everyone.
We don’t need documentation where we’re going 🌈
