• Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml
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    4 days ago

    Wonder if that person maybe has some kind of a problem that makes it difficult for them to concentrate and focus their attention when someone is talking to them or something and they just totally missed the detail about the medicine being prescribed. Maybe they need to see a doctor about it.

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      I’ve been struggling with the same thing. I’ve tried Adderall XR and Concerta so far, with neither really actually helping with my focus or executive function. All I got were headaches, sinus pressure, uncomfortable appetite suppression (felt like my throat was full), and a few other standard stimulant side effects.

      Waiting on Vyvanse to see how the prodrug formulations work out, but I’m not optimistic. Concerta did help with my anxiety, but the side effects overpowered any benefit.

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        Straterra is ok but made me feel anxious. Wellbutrin xl is actually decent. I suggest at least trying both for those like me that didn’t like the rollercoaster of typical ADHD meds and the bedroom side effects.

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        I have not. I went from XL (extended release) to the short acting ones but still wrecked me.

        I might speak to the doctor about getting changed to non-stimulant but the cruel irony is ADHD is going to prevent me doing this quickly.

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    well at least this person suggests a doctor, some will reference a YouTube video where an influencer talks about gut supplements that will completely cure any mental health issues, cancer, diabetes and coronary heart diseases linked to genetic factors

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        Or paleo diets.

        There is a tremendous amount of emerging research indicating a lot of brain dysfunction is rooted in insulin resistance. Which is a direct result of diet. I can’t speak for paleo, but if it’s a subset of keto, there is very promising research showing ketogenic diets increase available energy in the brain. By passing insulin resistance. Helping people with mental conditions.

        https://www.metabolicmind.org/research

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      HR is the office cop.

      NEVER talk to American cops.

      My HR and I have a wordless dirty look relationship.

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          And HR won’t let you be a liability for a lawsuit either. HR is there to protect the company, not you. If they see that you could be a threat in terms of “work discrimination” they will get rid of you first for other reasons so you won’t have the chance

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            What the fuck is this thought process? Document everything as it happens, then EEOC their ass for the obvious discrimination. Do not let people discriminate against you.

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            Then you can take them to court for wrongful termination.

            I’ve never worked for a company where HR was anything but useless. When you get fired for shit like this (or in general) it’s usually someone in the management chain calling the shots.

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              “I would like to file a wrongful termination suit”

              “We’ll need $50K for pre-trial, more if they won’t settle”

              “Oh shit I thought lawsuits were free???”

              “Common mistake, we get that all the time”

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                I guess we just make shit up now? The NLRB doesn’t have fees for reporting violations, and Pro-Bono lawyers charge a percent of the settlement not "more if they won’t settle. "

                Yeah, it wouldn’t be worth the effort to go after for a minimum wage gig, but for a 150k career? Definitely. Don’t let “fear of HR” turn you into a door mat that tolerates a toxic work environment.

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                  That assumes you can find a contingency lawyer that will take your case, which is not guaranteed.

                  HR is usually very careful with terminations, with policy and practices being reviewed by lawyers so as to avoid giving you anything you can use against them. They’re expert in finding justifications to terminate people while making it look above-board.

                  So you go to HR and smugly try to get someone in trouble for bothering you. They simply will not care that you feel unjustly treated. If they terminate you, it will ostensibly be because your position was eliminated, or for cause (bad performance or other reasons.) But it will really be because the business sees you as more risky and difficult to extract value from than other people who aren’t crybabies. (That is what they will see you as, no matter what.)

                  And then you go to a contingency lawyer and tell your story, and they say, “sorry, we can’t do this on contingency because their case is too strong. They documented that they have valid reasons. But if you want, our retainer is $10K to get started, and we’ll try to meditate for you.” When mediation fails: “Another $40K for trial prep.” So at this point the lawyer is fucking you too, and you’re spending 5 figures on a case you stand a good chance of losing.

                  Or, you could just say “I’m not gonna talk about my pills, dude” to your coworker, and then go eat a pop tart in the break room, and stay out of that whole entire hurricane.

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      Have some patience

      I’m not disabled myself but if a coworker says something like that they’re probably just uninformed, it just shows that their concerned for you

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      Unless Terry is running a very weird business and/or love his labelprinter

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    I’ve had someone tell me with a straight face that I’m “basically taking meth”.

    This is the same kind of person that says “American cheese slices are one molecule away from being plastic!”

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      Even if meth was chemically identical to ADHD meds, the argument still wouldn’t hold. Anything that lessens people’s symptoms without creating even more problems can be a medication.

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      They do actually prescribe actual meth for adhd but it’s a different drug known as Desoxyn

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        Desoxyn is a brand name of methamphetamine hydrochloride. Literally the quintessential ADHD med.

        It’s completely different than the street drug “meth”. The only similarity is the methyl-5 ingredient, which is a molecule that our body naturally synthesizes continuously.

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          It’s completely different than the street drug “meth”. The only similarity is the methyl-5 ingredient, which is a molecule that our body naturally synthesizes continuously.

          Slightly surprised it hasn’t spawned a factoid that claims the body makes meth/is full of it.

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      I like to pour them a glass of peroxide and tell them to drink it. It’s basically water. Literally just a molecule away from being water bro. Drink it bro, cmon! It’s just a molecule!

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      Meth is the #1 most abused drug by clinical scientists. That is to say, just like functional alcoholism is a thing, there’s functional meth heads among some of the most well-respected and reputable scientists in the world. Anyway that would be my response if I was told I was basically taking meth.

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        That’s not really a good way to spin it. Having ADHD is nothing like functional alcoholism. An alcoholic is destructively addicted to alcohol, and a functional one is really good at hiding it.

        ADHD is a condition outside of any external influence, and medication helps normalize individuals dealing with it.

        Your approach is the logical equivalent of a burglar saying “I rob people’s homes because they have guns to defend themselves”.

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          What? No? I don’t think the scientists abusing meth all have ADHD or they’d have meds prescribed by their doctor. What I was saying was just a tongue in cheek response to someone telling you that you’re basically taking meth.

          I am really not following your analogy.

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            I don’t think the scientists abusing meth all have ADHD or they’d have meds prescribed by their doctor.

            Then that’s an even worse analogy than I thought you were saying. I get what you’re trying to say, but it comes across as “well that other guy did something wrong, so I can do it too”.

            And I know that’s not what you’re trying to say, but that’s how it reads.

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      I mean, you technically sort of are taking meth in a way, but that’s because you need it since you react differently to it.

      I mean, there’s nothing wrong with someone with severe physical trauma being given fentanyl for example.

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        There’s nothing wrong with anyone taking fentanyl for any reason. There’s nothing wrong with anyone taking any drug for any reason. The only issues are things like how, where, when, etc. Anyone opposed to the full and complete legalization of all drugs should be executed.

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          There’s nothing wrong with anyone taking fentanyl for any reason.

          Yes

          There’s nothing wrong with anyone taking any drug for any reason.

          Preach

          The only issues are things like how, where, when, etc.

          Absolutely

          Anyone opposed to the full and complete legalization of all drugs should be executed.

          Ohh. Oh no…

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            Yeah, I know, sometimes I troll too hard. But it is reasonable to take such folks and send them to an island somewhere so they can hate freedom to themselves.

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          There’s nothing morally wrong, but there’s definitely something physically wrong with taking fentanyl when you don’t need fentanyl, especially long term. Like just because someone is addicted doesn’t mean they should stay addicted. I doubt you’re advocating for alcoholics to remain alcoholic for example.

          Also, I think you mean anyone against the usage of all drugs don’t have a valid opinion, not the creation of all drugs (there’s no good reason Krokodil should exist for example).

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            This comment makes no sense. It’s like saying there’s something physically wrong with shoving bread up your ass. Who cares?

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              I’m pretty sure your ass would care, depending on the kind of bread. A firm crusty bread would probably do some damage. Kinda like how too much fentanyl does damage. Physically.

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                And yet it’s entirely irrelevant. It amazes me how stupid people get when you make even the most elementary observations about the world. Fear is your only god.

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        you technically sort of are taking meth in a way

        You are 100% NOT taking meth when you take ADHD stims. The only thing linking the two is the core ingredient which is a methyl-5 molecule, which your body makes on its own.

        The drug meth is a synthetic methyl-5 compound with a ton of other nasty crap in it that doesn’t exist in ADHD medication.

        Like I said, whoever says that is in the same group as the American cheese is almost plastic crowd.

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          Dex_amphetamine_

          Meth_amphetamine_

          No, the thing linking the 2 is the amphetamine part. Which is the actual stimulant.

          The drug meth is actually just methamphetamine - there’s no “nasty crap” in it unless the person synthesizing it doesn’t refine and purify it well, which is true of basically all chemistry.

          A more apt comparison is a strong beer and wine - both technically different things, but both get you drink because of the alcohol ingredient in them. They’re both alcoholic drinks.

          Same with amphetamines - both are stimulants that have essentially the same effect. That’s specifically why they both work in treating ADHD. The only significant difference is one is legal (with a prescription) and the other isn’t, which of course means good luck getting it really pure and at the correct dosage. The only other difference is how fast acting / long lasting they are because of that tail molecule, but the part that has an actual effect on people is the amphetamine part.

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        dexamphetamine literally lacks the methyl group which gives “meth” it’s name.

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          Yeah but it has the “amphetamine” part that gives meth it’s kick. And that’s what most people think of when it comes to the drug - the effect it has on a standard person, not the chemical name (otherwise they’d be calling methylprednisolone “meth” too. And let’s face it, the majority of the population doesn’t know why it’s nicknamed meth either).

          On a legal scale, “amphetamines” are what’s regulated, not methyl groups.