Why does it feel that the evil sides globally are winning. Even evil people are winning. Why?

  • Vinny_93@lemmy.world
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    Have you ever cheated at a game, cut corners on work or purposefully did something unfair to get better from it yourself?

    Yeah it’s much easier to win without any pesky ethics or a strong moral compass.

    Good folks have been struggling uphill since the Ancient Greeks as long as there are folks trying to win with a different rule book.

  • PonyOfWar@pawb.social
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    Evil is not held back by scruples or moral boundaries. Evil people will do whatever they need to to succeed. That includes manipulating people, something which today’s technology facilitates. Add to that the fact that for many people in developed countries, life is slowly getting worse instead of improving over the last few years. The frustration over that can easily be turned into hate against minorities, foreigners etc.

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    Because the slow decay of the capitalist order that has been occurring since the neoliberal turn has reached the point where it’s effects are being felt in the global North

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      Just left a nearly an identical explanation. Refreshed and saw this comment. Well said. Fascism is Imperialism turned inward.

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        Yeah, westerners who are ideologically committed to neoliberalism can no longer fully convince themselves that liberalism is The Way, The Light, and The Truth, like they used to, because the counter evidence is on their door step. So now they have to apply the political reasoning they developed watching marvel movies and reading Harry Potter to explain the current situation in terms of evil bad guys threatening the sacred status quo.

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    Because all that has to happen for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing.

    It’s sadly true but it’s exactly what we’re seeing happen.

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    The internet. It led to the following:

    • Good social change occurred very rapidly from the 1990s-2010s, causing highly motivated pushback from those who didn’t like the changes
    • Rising wealth inequality caused by tech billionaires increased incentives and capability for a small number of extremely wealthy people to seize control of media and political power centers
    • Foreign dictator governments became more able to more easily spread pro-dictator propaganda
    • Media became more decentralized, leading to some good things but also the hijacking of our psychology to spread fear and disgust for the sake of grabbing attention
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      I would just like to push back and say that the Internet was an open public project, and it has helped countless people across the world. Every single problematic tech that people are pointing to at the moment are closed-source commercial projects.

      That is Capitalism at work.

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    Surprised to read so many answers talking about capitalism, social media and wealth concentration. But no one mentioned that we’re at an unprecedented point in history of mankind. Ecological collapse, the lightening fast rise of AI. No example of past historical processes can be very useful in this very unique context.

    And don’t forget that with AI and, coming fast, robots, humans will not be needed for labor anymore. Most of you might feel this is rubbish about something you think is science fiction. I suggest you think again.

    Think again and you will quickly realize that the future is not rosy for 99.5% of us.

    • BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
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      If by “worldwide” you mean “in the West”. Which, let’s be honest, is exactly what you mean.

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    Change requires a massive push, and apparently people need to suffer much much more, to inspire that momentum.

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    Because good times create weak people. Weak people create difficult times. Difficult times create good people. Good people create good times.

    I think we’re ushering into the era of weak people creating difficult times, after having good times for a while.

  • gon [he]@lemm.ee
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    I saw on Mastodon someone say something kinda like this: good people don’t feel the need to dominate others.

    Evil isn’t “winning” as much as it is “on top.” If you look around, talk to your neighbours and such, you’ll see that good and reasonable people are everywhere; good is the overwhelming majority.

    That being said, positions of power are chased and coveted by those obsessed with power, and those aren’t good people. Good people need to take charge, but it’s — in a way — against their nature to do so.

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      I saw on Mastodon someone say something kinda like this: good people don’t feel the need to dominate others.

      I worry this is just rationalizing ones passivity as just an inherent part of ones assumed “goodness.”

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      The major problem—one of the major problems, for there are several—one of the many major problems with governing people is that of whom you get to do it; or rather of who manages to get people to let them do it to them. To summarize: it is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it. To summarize the summary: anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.

      Douglas Adams, The Restaurant at the End of the Universe (The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, #2)

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        I’ve heard this before, but I had no idea it came from the Hitchhiker’s Guide… Cool :D

    • in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      good is the overwhelming majority.

      Let the overwhelming centrist majority in 1930’s Germany tell you otherwise. People who peacefully ignore evil, even if it’s preserve their own safety, are not good at heart. People just don’t want trouble or disturbance, that’s why people are naturally kind from day to day. But ignoring the piles of bodies while saying “no politics at the dinner table” is literally how the holocaust happened - the majority failed to act.

      1930’s Germany at least had the excuse of limited information/education, all they had was radio from which only Hitler’s voice was present. 100 years later with the worlds knowledge at our fingertips, ignorance to politics is a choice. Might I say an evil one, all things considered.

      • gon [he]@lemm.ee
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        That’s not a very generous interpretation of people… Though I can’t exactly contradict you.

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          I’ve been lied to, gaslit, and blamed by my self-proclaimed “centrist” family my whole life, been called alarmist my whole life when i’ve been pointing at these very same things coming from a mile away. There are tons of others that did the same, at least alt-right MAGA freaks give you the time of day to argue. Centrists though? They’re the first to say they “dont really care much about politics” yet hold their heads high with masturbatory egotism and confidently proclaim “both sides are wrong, I disagree with extremists of any kind.” They’re betting their childrens lives and future on their own malicious ignorance, like that joke with the priest who denies life saving medication because “Don’t worry, God will take care of me,” but replace God with the Markets and you have the modern day peasant that’ll rat you out to soldiers for “heresy” and have you hung, disembowled, or burned at the stake. A person of self-interest is not a person of reason.

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            “Centrist” is often a word for unscrupulous fence-sitter… It’s a shame you’ve experienced that. I despise self-proclaimed centrists as much as the next guy.

            Do you think they are the majority, though? Maybe it’s my echo-chambers, but that doesn’t feel like it’s the case. I’m not American, mind you.

            • in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              Pretty much my entire family fit under this category, plus at least 75% of the people i’ve met in my entire life, including schoolmates and work colleagues. Of the 25% that are barely conscious, 80% of them are (somehow and unfortunately) MAGA while 20% have moved into a tiny home or cabin somewhere to grow their own food. The MAGA crowd are at least looking around going “wtf, workers need to seize the means of production” meanwhile the centrist liberals are the ones going “things would’ve been better with Hillary or Kamala.”

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                MAGA, those voting for a privatizing fascist cutting taxes for the rich working with the richest people in the world to further the goals of the owner-class, are looking around going “wtf, workers need to seize the means of production?” Are you sure?

                I can’t tell if you’re joking…

                • in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  Yeah, those MAGA. The ones you typically see on youtube videos or twitter aren’t your average MAGA supporter, if you actually talk to one and ask them what they want, they start going off on things that even the most far-left Star Trek commie eutopianist could agree with, only to right at the end blame “the libtards!” or “DEI” or “immigrants” etc. They’re uneducated, they’re seeing things aren’t good and rightfully so, but they’re tricked into scapegoating before coming to the right conclusions.

                  Centrists? They say “You shouldn’t pay attention to these things.”

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                I was with you until that last statement, I haven’t met a single centrist that supported (voted for) Hillary or Kamala

                • in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  I haven’t met a single centrist that supported (voted for) Hillary or Kamala let alone attended a protest or demonstration.

        • EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to ‘order’ than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice […]

          -MLK Jr. in his Letter from a Birmingham Jail